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<p>It's an Epson all in one and the premium glossy. I realise these aren't the best set-up but it does look remarkably similar to the professional prints i'm getting. <br>

I started calibrating at luminance 120 and have dropped it to 100 to try and avoid this issue in printing. I can visually see differences on the same monitor though, between PS/LR and everything else. I can't set the brightnes any lower on my LCD it's as low as it will go. I will have a look at photomatix and do some experimenting. Thanks to all for your help!</p>

<p>Ahh now this is interesting.<br /> I am capturing in RAW and converting to HDR in photomatix. Perhaps this is where I am going wrong as I don't know what photomatix is converting the files to. Good point and one I hadn't considered as I thought that my capture in camera set to adobeRGB was where the profile was being set.<br /> So if photomatix is applying a sRGB profile to the TIFF and I am then viewing and editing the files in PS/LR which is an aRGB working colour space this could be the problem?<br /> I do have the setting in PS that prompts if the file is in a different colourspace to the working one and this isn't prompting me. but I need to investigate this further. Thank you.</p>

<p>Hi Roger,<br>

thanks for coming back. I've recently been converting to sRGB for the web as I understand that most browsers aren't colour managed and the difference between an sRGB and an aRGB when viewed in a non-colour managed browser is the aRGB file looks washed out and de-saturated.<br>

I am finding mine look over saturated when compared to the PS and LR file.<br>

I am printing from Adobe PS, using PS handles colours, the ICC profile for the paper i'm using and relative with black point compensation. Have spent a long time experimenting and always oversaturated reds/oranges.<br>

I'm using windows 7 and previousy Vista. Colour calibrated with eye-one 2. I am using the same monitor to view files in PS/LR vs anything else and am happy with the pastelly colours in PS/LR only.</p>

 

<p>Hello all. Please can somebody help me as I have struggled with this for a long time now.<br>

I have a colour calibrated Sony Vaio LCD. Calibrated to 6000K and a luminance of 100 gamma 2.2. <br>

My camera is capturing in aRGB. I am working on the RAW files in Lightroom and Adobe PS CS4 in an aRGB colour space (set up as described by Eric Chan <a href="http://people.csail.mit.edu/ericchan/dp/Epson3800/printworkflow.html">http://people.csail.mit.edu/ericchan/dp/Epson3800/printworkflow.html</a>). <br>

The files I am outputting are 16 bit aRGB files. My problem is that viewed online, viewed in non-colour managed software and, most importantly, when printed my images are spectacularly over-saturated compared to the same file opened in either adobe PS or lightroom.<br>

I understand from various online information that (very briefly) working in AdobeRGB can cause issues with de-saturating colours when viewed in un-colour managed software, or if the image is not tagged with the colour space. I am finding the opposite.<br>

Whether I print at home or from proffessional printers the oranges in sunrise photographs are very over-saturated and the whole image is a lot darker than on screen.<br>

I do take care that colour management is not being carried out twice in printer and computer so I have ruled this problem out of the equation.<br>

So, viewed in PS and LR I have light pastelly shades, anywhere else dark over-saturated. Can anybody help? </p>

<p>Thanks in advance!<br>

Will.</p>

<p>Cheers Andrew, I've been experimenting recently and I am fairly happy with the results on my home printer if, once I am happy with the screen results, I add a curves adjustment layer and lighten (using the default lighten preset) and then increase this by 20. I realise that this means my LCD screen is too bright but if I calibrate my screen to match the room where my images will hang, then my images if posted on photo.net will look a mighty overexposed on the majority of viewers screens that have calibrated to a luminance of 100-140. Is my thinking here correct and can you suggest a better method? Is the curves adjustment the best technique here? As always, thank you and best regards, Will. </p>

<p>I really appreciate you help Andrew. I don't think my question was worded very well. The prints do look fine when viewed under a viewing station or if I take it into bright sunlight but this is the only time they look ok. I am not hanging them in direct sunlight or under a bright viewing station so I was wondering what different peoples approach was for compensating for the 'dull' or not pure white lighting where the pics will hang? For instance I have a very early morning shot of Sydney http://www.photo.net/photo/10442234. One of the things I like about this picture is the dark blue sky. I had this printed professionally and the dark blue sky is black and you can hardly see the opera house. If I take it into bright sunshine or viewing station the black suddenly becomes blue and everything comes to life. Any advice on what techniques I can use to try and get this print to look correct when I am not planning to hang under a viewing station? Sorry for all the questions and thanks again! Will</p>

<p>Wow! Thanks so much for the prompt and detailed responses guys. Tommy, I think I understand what you're saying, basically have some preset corrections to add each time I want to print. Only one problem I seem to have is that I can't get my LCD dark enough to match the prints. Even down at a luminance of 90 I can still see a lot more detail. I think I'm understanding though and I'm going to have to lighten the display conditions dramatically.<br>

One question Andrew is, if I do calibrate the screen to match the display ambience won't and adjust pictures to suit, surely then they won't look right on other viewers monitors? I guess i should have a seperate monitor profile for "standard" and "printing"?</p>

<p>I really appreciate your responses. Thank you! I will try all these methods</p>

<p>Hello all!</p>

<p>This is my first question on Photo.net and i'll try and make it a good one. I don't want to ask the classic question of why do my prints look do dark as I have read endless forum threads on this and believe I understand <em>why </em>this is but I would really appreciate some advice on coping with this.<br>

I have calibrated my (very bright) LCD with Eye-One Display 2, at 6500K, Gamma 2.2 and a luminance of 100-140 as recommended by many. My problem is that my prints look great when viewed with a viewing lamp or in direct sunlight but I am not going to hang my prints in these conditions. I have used the ambient light sensor on the Eye-One Display and read that the lighting was 3000Kish I have since changed the lighting to halogen 100W which I hope will raise the colour temperature.<br>

But basically what my question is what is the best way to improve my prints. No matter how dark I make my LCD it doesn't match the print. I have improved the room lighting where they are hung, this has helped but it is still far too dark and doesn't have the punch the photos do on screen. So how do you guys deal with this problem and can you help at all?<br>

Your help is very much appreciated. Thank you!</p>

<p>Will</p>