susan_langford

<p>Thankyou to every one for all your help</p>

<p>Thankyou, your replies have helped a lot. It always amazes me the stories behind an image.</p>

<p>Thankyou, My tutor believes sometimes it has stirred something we have seen in the past a memory of a piece of art, or a similar photograph. When I see a photo like this it stirs something in my stomach it makes me wince. I want to know more of the situation. To understand how this situation arose. We look at these photos and we are disgusted by the horror that has been captured but we continue to look at them. Why do we do that?</p>

<p>Photographs can give you an idea of the truth but they can not always be interpreted correctly. They can be cropped altered and we see what we want to see. Have a look at this artist and it will give you some idea.<br>

<a href="http://www.mat.ucsb.edu/~g.legrady/academic/courses/02w200a/algorithmic/hilliard.html">http://www.mat.ucsb.edu/~g.legrady/academic/courses/02w200a/algorithmic/hilliard.html</a></p>

<p>I don't think suffering is a premise to producing great art. I am at university with a lot of young people who have not suffered, they may think they have but they produce art because its as part of them as breathing. I come from a family who have have never followed the arts but something inside of me wants to produce art it would be nice if other people enjoyed my art but my enjoyment comes from producing it.<br>

My son had a nasty form of leukaemia, I went through a messy divorce and life has not been kind, I have always been compassionate but I don't think it has enhanced my work, I produce art because it is part of my make up. It enhances my life.</p>

<p>I wish to say thank you for the responses I have received they have been very helpful, thankyou for the time and trouble you have taken in responding to my question. <br>

I am working on the Vietmanese image. What makes an iconic image, is it that we find that the image reminds us of some kind of art. Is it to do with balance of an image or composition. Eddie Adams tells the photograph was taken at the wrong time of day, he felt the composition was not very good and the image we look at, he took while he closed his eyes. He had asked someone to tell him when it was all over. <br>

Can it be the fact photographs can be taken at the point of death. No other media can do this, film can capture events but it continues to the end. The photograph has captured that moment.</p>

<p>Those are the images, thankyou. I am 54 and have not managed to grow a thick skin yet. Even though I know a lot about computers some things still cause me problems.</p>

<p>Thank you to Matt Laur and Wouter Willemse for your later comments, I tried to post the urls but made a mistake in the upload, I am sorry but this has stressed and upset me. I wish to withdraw my question.</p>

<p>I have decided to withdraw my original question. thankyou</p>

<p>I was trying to post the Urls</p>

<p><img src="http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=vietnam+shot+in+head&hl=en&biw=1138&bih=535&gbv=2&tbm=isch&tbnid=TSzL0QHS-L1-kM:&imgrefurl=http://my.opera.com/gdare/archive/monthly/%3Fmonth%3D200901&docid=V93kb_Ucoy3kgM&imgurl=http://files.myopera.com/gdare/blog/1968_Shot_in_Head.jpg&w=400&h=242&ei=DuG_TseiC4LL8QOq1d26BA&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=601&sig=104235123527105233794&page=1&tbnh=153&tbnw=218&start=0&ndsp=9&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0&tx=124&ty=73" alt="" /><img src="http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=vietnam+shot+in+head&hl=en&biw=1138&bih=535&gbv=2&tbm=isch&tbnid=TSzL0QHS-L1-kM:&imgrefurl=http://my.opera.com/gdare/archive/monthly/%3Fmonth%3D200901&docid=V93kb_Ucoy3kgM&imgurl=http://files.myopera.com/gdare/blog/1968_Shot_in_Head.jpg&w=400&h=242&ei=DuG_TseiC4LL8QOq1d26BA&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=601&sig=104235123527105233794&page=1&tbnh=153&tbnw=218&start=0&ndsp=9&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0&tx=124&ty=73" alt="" /><img src="http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=benetton+aids+advert&hl=en&biw=1138&bih=535&gbv=2&tbm=isch&tbnid=r0-xvEYnAblYbM:&imgrefurl=http://theinspirationroom.com/daily/2007/benetton-pieta-in-aids-campaign/&docid=G-VMhncrJ3EGOM&imgurl=http://theinspirationroom.com/daily/print/2007/4/benetton-pieta-david-kirby.jpg&w=515&h=326&ei=tuC_TrSQJsL98QOCrK22DA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=191&vpy=169&dur=93&hovh=179&hovw=282&tx=96&ty=72&sig=104235123527105233794&page=1&tbnh=161&tbnw=226&start=0&ndsp=8&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0" alt="" /></p>

<p>Thankyou, It all seemed to get heated,you are right I forgot to go back to the site and I did forget to click "notify me of response". When I did not get emails I assumed that no one else responded. The problem with the internet you cannot see what is going on in someones life. I apologise for not getting back to the forum.<br>

All I wanted was opinions from people concerning these images, Their own personal response.<br>

Thank you for your response and for putting things in to perspective.</p>

<p>If you are asking about the Susan Sontag question, I did answer it. I have researched the photographs i wanted to ask the question without directing someone on what their opinions may be. I am sorry I have upset you all but was just asking for some personal insight into these photographs. Some people may know these images others may not, I am sure there are a lot of iconic images I don't know about but I would google the image and would respond, I certainly would not lecture some one on their question. Thank you for your response.</p>

<p>The images I am relating to are the iconic images. I want responses to them and if you may refer to another image that may fall into this category please upload it and let me know why you refer to that image that makes you respond to the title. This may make the dissertation more interesting, thank you for your input.</p>

<p>Hi, I am writing a a dissertation concerning the photographs listed and wanted your opinions on these, the chapters will be<br>

1, Execution of a Viet Cong Guerrilla 1968: Journalistic<br>

2, Benetton Aids Advert: Advertising<br>

2, The Migrant Mother: Social History<br>

Any help would be appreciated, feelings concerning these photographs whether they should have been published and did they help the cause. This forum has been very helpful concerning my dissertation and now that I have become more focused. more help would be appreciated. Thanks</p>

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<p>Thankyou to every one who has contributed to these questions. It has opened up my paper to many questions, more than I could ever hoped for. I do not believe in censorship, if a photograph helps one person then it has done its job. I was concerned about the use of the photograph used in art. Your answers have changed my opinion concerning this. Sometimes we need reminding of what certain human beings are capable of. Thankyou, any other comments would be appreciated</p>

<p>I know we are all voyeuristic but hate seeing violence and have in the past stepped in to protect someone. I would never harm someone or something on purpose yet I view these images. My anger rises at what some humans can inflict on another living person or creature. My tutor asks me why I was so interested in the Rwandan Genocide, my answer was guilt. The tutor replied that I should find something deeper about myself concerning this subject. I remember seeing the scenes on TV which upset me greatly but I did not do anything about it. My research has shown me the situation was more complicted than I first understood. What concerns me is that I saw the images but failed to do anything. <br>

All your comments have raised other issues and these are greatly appreciated.</p>

<p>These answers have raised a lot more questions that I will research, thankyou for the responses. I have researched the Migrant Mother by Dorothea Lange, which saved thousands of lives by its publication, Florence Owen Thompson, although she knew the photograph was taken was very unhappy about it being used. Researching The Rwandian Genocide the photographs did not stop this massacre, why was this. <br>

Thankyou all for the time you have taken to write your responses, hopefully I will have more on this subject.</p>

<p>Hi, I am not talking about permission to print the photographs in newspapers but of the photographers to use them for art, is it ethical. I strongly believe Journalists should take these pictures to inform us of the horrors being inflicted, name and shame the perpetrators. Thankyou for your quick response I will research this photo. This is the kind of information I need, thankyou<br>

Sue</p>

<p>I am writing a dissertation concerning photographic ethics. Susan Santog says we should not take photographs of distress or war. Yet Journalists continue to take this sort of image. Some Photographic Journalists later use these images as works of art and may reproduce them in books or display them in Exhibitions. I believe we should be able to view these images in context but is it morally right that they can be used as art without the permission of the people within that photograph. What rights do they have. Any help would be greatly appreciated. </p>