anita_anja

<p>Hi<br>

I have been thinking of buying a 5D (currently I'm using another old camera a 20D) as I really miss the look and feel lenses had when I was using 35mm film. I do like the look my old 50 f1.8 has on the 20D I would like to consider using some wide lenses. I have a 24mm f2.8 which is a nice lens and I'm considering buying an OM 21mm f3.5 to get some extra width for not a big investment.</p>

<p>There aren't many web sources on this where people have actually used the lens on a 5D and show information about what it looks like. I found these two <a href="http://theonlinephotographer.blogspot.com/2007/01/canon-5d-wide-angle-night-photography.html"><strong>here</strong></a> and <a href="http://cjeastwd.blogspot.com/2011/10/olympus-21mm-f35-on-full-frame-digital.html"><strong>here</strong></a>.</p>

<p>I am now a little confused, I think the lens may be good at f8 or f11 but it doesn't seem to be much good at f3.5</p>

<p>This makes me think that perhaps a 5D would not be as good an option as a camera for wide angle lenses and I may be better off buying a wide zoom for my 20D instead?</p>

<p>I would be happy to hear what others may have found</p>

<p>Hi Tiffany</p>

<p>I was just browsing and noticed this thread sorry if I'm late. I see lots of people recommending zooms in the up to 200mm range, particularly if you say you want to "<em>be able to take good shots of birds or animals from far away</em> "</p>

<p>Unless you're photographing rather big animals 300mm will be more what you need. After trying for some years on my EOS camera (film) to get photographs of birds I'd say that anything less than this and you'll be just disappointed.</p>

<p>Personally I prefer telephoto lenses to Zooms, you nearly always get better results. I see that our very own Bob A has reviewed the 300 and 75-300 IS zoom here on <a href="../equipment/canon/300_compare/"><strong>photo.net</strong> </a> , and while his conclusions seem to suggest that the 75-300zoom will "post process" to nearly as good as the 300mm telephoto the fact remains that the same care in post will make the 300mm better.</p>

<p>Looking at his own "real world" comparisons the 300mm f4 lens gave better results at f4 than the zoom did at 5.6<br>

<img src="../equipment/canon/300_compare/real_world_1.jpg" alt="" width="570" height="552" /></p>

<p>which when you think about it means that you can use the 300mm at f4 and thus use a faster speed. IS helps to fix up your camera shake, but won't help it if your subject moves (as in this shot)</p>

<p><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2769/4398418560_0c20530d50.jpg" alt="" /><br>

Having started out on Olympus OM cameras I have a real soft spot for their high quality optics, and I have also used a few on my Canon EOS camera with a cheapie adaptor (with AF confirm) I bought from Ebay. I have been looking carefully at buying a EF300 f4 lens but may settle for a Olympus OM 300mm f4.5 lens because I've seen how good they are on film.</p>

<p>What ever you get, if its for wildlife, I can say you always get what you pay for in new gear, but with used gear a bit of research will often get you a bargain. If you're in the states, then you should look at KEH.com they have a great reputation and I've bought from them before. I would feel more comfortable buying an expensive lens from them than Ebay.</p>

<p>Thanks everyone for their replies. I should clear up a few things that I left unclear.</p>

<p>I was thinking the IS model not the L model mentioned. I was thinking that I'd be working either on a monopod or hand held for the cars (as I have been) and that the IS would really help there more so than the outright optical (and I agree about tweaking later in PS)</p>

<p>With respect to bursts, my style is to mainly shoot 2 or 3 in a burst. Having mainly been a film person for some years I have not really wanted to check more than general exposure on the rear screen. I have found that they just aren't as good as the monitor at home for determining if a shot has good critical focus or not. Perhaps the 20D will be better there.</p>

<p>I see that the 30D is about $150 more than a 20D on KEH (where I've been buying from in the past and I really like their service, sorry about the plug). Considering that the dxomark tests seem to indicate the 20D has a slight edge on the 30D for sensor score I don't feel myself that the higher burst rate or larger screen of the 30D is a great calling card. The 40D is more than I wish to spend now.</p>

<p>I think I'll move along with getting this gear and getting used to it, so hopefully on the day I can give my friend and his club some great shots of their race day.</p>

<p>Hi</p>

<p>I am thinking of getting a 20D used and pairing it with a EF300f4 as a sports and action photography set. I'm still using a film EOS camera and a Canon digital pocket camera, so I don't have much experience with the EOS digital. I've tried the lens from a person who was generous enough to lend it to me on my Elan and wonder if it will work as well on the 20D ... do these older digitals focus as fast as the Elan (and yes, I know I won't have any eye control of the AF points.</p>

<p>A friend of mine does "hill climb races" in a "vetran" car and I thought a digital might save me burning as much film in an event in a few months.</p>

<p>hope to hear a postive comment.</p>

<p>Hi</p>

<p>I'm sorry if this is the wrong category, but I just didn't see one for pointing devices.</p>

<p>I found a Wacom Bamboo cheap at a local shop so I bought it. Its nice to use instead of the mouse but what more can I do with it than just use it as the mouse? I've read that pen pressure and angle can be used and that people think they're really useful tools.</p>

<p>Can anyone suggest some links or threads or offer advice on what more I can do with it to make it worthwhile? I'm not using anything fancy here, just a laptop and photoshop CS.</p>

<p>thanks for any pointers</p>

<p>thank you everyone (or perhaps that should be Tak or Takk for Jorgen)</p>

<p>kiitos</p>

<p>Jorgen</p>

<p>thanks for your reply. So to clarify ... if I set the aperture ring to f8 with the lens in my hand, when looking through the lens it is wide open, then pressing the depth of field button stops the lens down to f8</p>

<p>no?</p>

<p>Hello</p>

<p>I am considering buying an OM series lens and wonder if I can ask any owners of these a question.</p>

<p>If the lens is not attached to a camera does the Depth of Field button on the lens operate (stop down) the iris? I can't get one of these lenses here, so before I buy one I wanted to ask.</p>

<p>Thankyou</p>