Format/Film/Scanner Choice for Art Project with Piezo in Medium Format Posted November 9, 2000 First off, I have just purchased a 1160 with Piezography (to arrive in a few days. Also, I have read hundreds of postings at this site in order to see if the archives had answers to my question. I have zero experience with this (Yes I am a newbie) so bear with my first request. I do appreciate the archive posts as I have already learned a great deal in the 20+ hours spent reading them. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience..all of you. I have an upcoming art project (lasting 4 months)which involves producing 100+ 11x14 (minimum size) B&W archival portraits (close up headshots) of 100 different 80 year old men. By archival, I mean that the final result will be going to museum and state archive (they will prefer archival materials) I have just purchased a Epson 1160 with Piezography quad black inks BPS and will use Sommerset Velvet paper or others for archival prints. The tough question for me now is what direction to take on the "capture" of the portrait. My esthetic goal: I want the details of fine wrinkles and hairs to show in the final print for sharp detail in B&W. My first question is: Should I use 35mm or 6x7 format films to capture the image? My gut tells me to go 6x7 for the "additional details" which would be useful if I want to enlarge to 13x19" (with the Piezography set up above I hope to do 100% of printing on the 1160 to keep costs lower) or 16x20" (standard photo prints at a high priced custom B&W lab. However, I don't have the budget to do drum scans on all 100 portraits (this is a low budget "art project" for exhibition). So my concern is that if I take all the photos using 6x7 Medium Format cameras/film...I will wind up with poor scan quality (and hence final print quality)using a flat bed scanner (I would purchase one with 1600 DPI 3.2Dmax Epson 1640SU Photo) and use Vuescan (if compatible with 1640). If I go with the 35mm route, I would scan on my HP Photosmart S20, but I am afraid that the ultimate goal of having an archival and presentable (and possibly "sellable")portrait in 13x19 or 16x20 would be eliminated as a realistic option because of the limits of scanning a 35mm film and subsequently enlarging to such a large size. (BTW I have not yet printed to this size with any scans or this new printer) I currently have 35mm cameras and a HP Photosmart S20 film scanner. I will purchase Photoshop 6.O (I have gotten by without it till now) The real issue for me is that going the 35mm route may be less expensive up front (as I own the cameras and HP Photosmart) but may not lead to a good final print at 11x14, 13x19 or 16x20 for exhibition and sale. The ultimate goal is a "fine art print" quality archival portrait...and one where reprints can be sold to offset the costs of the project. On the other hand, if I go the 6x7 route, I may have a great negative, but lose all of that detail when scanning on an affordable $400 1600dpi flatbed scanner. Also, to go 6x7 I would have to spend about $4,000 to get the desired medium format camera kit. Please remember, I can not afford to go Drum scan and I have purchased the Piezography system to eliminate the local B&W custom lab (in my small town, you are stuck with higher costs on B&W work and few choices). I hope to do this "digital darkroom" as much as possible. Pro PhotoCD at the local proshop is about $10 per scan so 100 subjects x $10 = $1,000. For that amount I would rather buy a scanner. Finally, Does anybody scan 6x7 and if so is the file size manageable in Photoshop (I have been told I will need more than 500mb or RAM on computer. Is this a "killer"...this large file size? I have a Compaq 600mhz PIII with CD-RW, DVD, Zip250 and 19" KDS monitor about 128Mb RAM. P.S. Recommendations on best film (color/BW, trans or neg) for the scanning? (I know this has been asked before...just asking :) Any opinion or advice is most welcome. Thanks in advance. Feel free to reply to my email steadmanuhlich@knology.net if you prefer.
Format/Film/Scanner Choice for Art Project with Piezo
in Medium Format
Posted
First off, I have just purchased a 1160 with Piezography (to arrive
in a few days. Also, I have read hundreds of postings at this site
in order to see if the archives had answers to my question. I have
zero experience with this (Yes I am a newbie) so bear with my first
request. I do appreciate the archive posts as I have already learned
a great deal in the 20+ hours spent reading them. Thanks for sharing
your knowledge and experience..all of you.
I have an upcoming art project (lasting 4 months)which involves
producing 100+ 11x14 (minimum size) B&W archival portraits (close up
headshots) of 100 different 80 year old men.
By archival, I mean that the final result will be going to museum and
state archive (they will prefer archival materials) I have just
purchased a Epson 1160 with
Piezography quad black inks BPS and will use Sommerset Velvet paper
or others for archival prints.
The tough question for me now is what
direction to take on the "capture" of the portrait. My esthetic goal:
I want the details of fine wrinkles and hairs to show in the final
print for sharp detail in B&W.
My first question is: Should I use 35mm or 6x7 format films to
capture the image? My gut tells me to go 6x7 for the "additional
details" which would be useful if I want to enlarge to 13x19" (with
the Piezography set up above I hope to do 100% of printing on the
1160 to keep costs lower) or 16x20" (standard photo prints at a
high priced custom B&W lab.
However, I don't have the budget to do drum scans on all 100
portraits (this is a low budget "art project" for exhibition). So my
concern is that if I take all the photos using 6x7 Medium Format
cameras/film...I will wind up with poor scan quality (and hence final
print quality)using a flat bed scanner (I would purchase one with
1600 DPI 3.2Dmax Epson 1640SU Photo) and use Vuescan (if compatible
with 1640).
If I go with the 35mm route, I would scan on my HP Photosmart S20,
but I am afraid that the ultimate goal of having an archival and
presentable (and possibly "sellable")portrait in 13x19 or 16x20 would
be eliminated as a realistic option because of the limits of scanning
a 35mm film and subsequently enlarging to such a large size. (BTW I
have not yet printed to this size with any scans or this new printer)
I currently have 35mm cameras and a HP Photosmart S20 film scanner. I
will purchase Photoshop 6.O (I have gotten by without it till now)
The real issue for me is that going the 35mm route may be less
expensive up front (as I own the cameras and HP Photosmart) but may
not lead to a good final print at 11x14, 13x19 or 16x20 for
exhibition and sale. The ultimate goal is a "fine art print" quality
archival portrait...and one where reprints can be sold to offset the
costs of the project.
On the other hand, if I go the 6x7 route, I may have a great
negative, but lose all of that detail when scanning on an affordable
$400 1600dpi flatbed scanner. Also, to go 6x7 I would have to spend
about $4,000 to get the desired medium format camera kit.
Please remember, I can not afford to go Drum scan and I have
purchased the Piezography system to eliminate the local B&W custom
lab (in my small town, you are stuck with higher costs on B&W work
and few choices).
I hope to do this "digital darkroom" as much as
possible. Pro PhotoCD at the local proshop is about $10 per scan so
100 subjects x $10 = $1,000. For that amount I would rather buy a
scanner.
Finally, Does anybody scan 6x7 and if so is the file size manageable
in Photoshop (I have been told I will need more than 500mb or RAM on
computer. Is this a "killer"...this large file size? I have a Compaq
600mhz
PIII with CD-RW, DVD, Zip250 and 19" KDS monitor about 128Mb RAM.
P.S. Recommendations on best film (color/BW, trans or neg) for the
scanning? (I know this has been asked before...just asking :)
Any opinion or advice is most welcome. Thanks in advance.
Feel free to reply to my email steadmanuhlich@knology.net if you
prefer.