kevin_smith34

<p>Jacqui Valdivia,</p>

<p>Did you pay for this seminar with a credit card? I would be happy to help you get your money back from these scammers. If you call your credit card company's 800 number and tell the operator that you would like to dispute a charge they have a whole legal department just for this situation. They'll ask you about the details, so just be armed with the information and let them know that you have tried several times to resolve the issue on your own and that the Darrs have not cooperated. They will begin the process for you and give your account an immediate conditional credit for the amount you were billed while they "investigate" it. They will then contact the Darrs and ask them for proof that the charge is legit, which the Darrs will not be able to provide. Then after a while you will get notice that you have won and that the conditional credit is now permanent. The Darrs never gave me the promised refund, but I disputed the charge with my credit card company and just received an email from the company:</p>

<p>" Dear KEVIN:<br>

We have great news! The billing dispute on your [card name removed for privacy purposes] account for the transaction on 07/31/2008 in the<br /> amount of $350.00 at DARR PROJECTS, INCORPO WINSTON SALEM<br /> NC has been resolved.<br>

The conditional credit previously posted to your account is<br /> now permanent.<br>

You'll receive a statement message or letter confirming<br /> the action taken on your billing dispute. If you have<br /> other outstanding billing disputes, you will be updated<br /> via email, statement messaging or other correspondence as<br /> their status changes.<br>

We appreciate your business and look forward to serving you."</p>

<p>Jacqui, or anyone else who needs it, please email me at <a href="mailto:kevin@spiltmilkimaging.com">kevin@spiltmilkimaging.com</a> for further assistance and information about your rights and how to get your money back. </p>

Cheers,

-Kevin

These guys are scammers for sure - Info update for anyone who doesn't want to be duped.

My seminar tickets were bought by my wife, who uses a different email address than me entirely. They ignored

continued emails from her email address; the one that registered and paid for for the seminar on Oct 15th, in San

Francisco. Even though they had ignored her repeated emails (and phone calls) requesting the info necessary to

attend, prior to and even on the day of the seminar... - they had no problem emailing me. Obviously they got my

email address from this forum. Here is what they had to say:

"Kevin,

The group is currently in the San Fran seminar today. I am sorry I have gotten this a little late. We had a problem

with another person from LA as well.

I checked the register and the reason you did not receive the location is you are not signed up.

If you did in fact sign up - your information did not register. Can you please forward the receipt if you have one.

If this is the case, I will be happy to refund your money - or if you do not get this too late you can shoot over to the

seminar.

Let me know"

I promptly notified them that my wife had purchased the tickets and I would indeed like a refund as well as

information regarding the location of the seminar so I can verify with whomever hosted it that it did indeed happen and

is not a scam. They sent an email to both my wife's email address and my own stating that they would give a full

refund. No refund has been received. To this day they refuse to answer as to the location of the seminar.

I make this post to warn people. It's as simple as this: if these people were legitimate they would be able to verify

seminar locations, past and present. We would be able to call their venues and verify that seminars are really

happening. Obviously they are not. www.shootinghigher.com lists no locations for their seminars, past or present.

Don't be taken by this scam! Anyone legitimate will have reserved their venue far in advance and should have no

problem giving you information on the past, present and current locations. I'll also point out that the day the seminar

was supposed to happen and they contacted me offering a refund, is the same say "Marco Medrid" signed up for

photo.net forums to make the claim that he/she attended the LA seminar (Hey Marco, where was the venue? I'd like

to call and verify it's reserve and use on the date in question!) . Most likely a random name created by the Darr

scammers to run online damage control for their reputation.

Sincerely trying to prevent further scam victims,

Kevin

www.spiltmilkimaging.com

Hi Jacqui,

Did you ever receive an answer from the Darr's? There is supposed to be a seminar on the 15th (tomorrow) here in

San Fran I have the same problem as you. I cannot get ahold of them and they have yet to release info on where to

go!! The website they were using for the seminar at the time when I signed up back in july 2008 was

www.reachingthehighendbride.com and it is now parked free at godaddy. Even though my payment confirmation

email came from info@reachingthehighendbridge.com the domain does not receive email. I guess their new site for

this "tour" is http://www.shootinghigher.com . Based on what I have seen on line they seem to be scammers which

sucks because they are listed in the WPPI and I bought my tickets in good faith.

(http://www.wppionline.com/newsletter/sep08/member-news.tml) I'd love to hear more about your experience if there

is any more to tell.

[ADMIN EDIT: Phone numbers removed]

I also found a listing on model mayhem

http://www.modelmayhem.com/darrphotography

Other stuff:

http://web.me.com/landondarr/Site/REGISTER.html