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Canon F1N was my first camera and I used it for quite a few years! Mary Ball

<p>Thanks everyone!!<br>

Miss you all...</p>

<p>Hi Kimberly - 1) I had the wrong date - oops. It's August 8 which is a Friday.<br>

2) I'd love to have a link to your work... 3) I'm pretty sure we can get them to let you use their photos for your promotional materials - website etc.. Send me whatever you have for work samples. - <a href="mailto:mariball@Verizon.net">mariball@Verizon.net</a> - </p>

<p>Don't know his budget yet. Anyone?</p>

<p>Anyone looking for an opportunity to shoot a wedding in Kentucky for their portfolio? My brother is getting married. Date - August 15. Should be interesting... on the water.. short gig. Second wedding.. Suggestions?</p>

<p>Regardless of what you decide to do - take at least 20-30 shots and maybe - just maybe you might get one where everyone has their eyes open.. ;-)</p>

<p>Dave Gardner hit the nail on the head. </p>

<p>I just heard from Josh about Nadine's passing. She graciously accepted to take responsibility for the Wedding Forum when I was up to my neck in moving and so on. I've not been back since - at least not to interfer or contribute - knowing the forum was in good hands - great hands actually. Further - I always always respected her cool head and extrodinary knowlege and her willingness to share her gems with us all. She was not only a talented and dedicated photographer but a wonderful person and a generous one as well. She will be so so missed. Bless you Nadine and your family. Mary Ball</p>

<p>I like to take care of surprises in the first meeting or phone call...<br>

I suggest bringing touch up makeup and a brush to spruce up before the shoot. If a woman says she wears no makeup - I may suggest "how about just a touch of mascara and blush?" If she says she doesn't use any.. well, that's how she looks and she knows how she looks and is obviously happy with it. I don't push it. </p>

<p>I ask the couple or client - what are the things you hate the most in photos of yourself. They know if they have a crooked smile or blink a lot or hate their profile and so on.. Then when we're shooting - I can let them know they are doing that 'thing' they hate in photos and say it with humor... I had a guy once that smiled real wide and fake and stiff looking. I'd just say - Ok - Let's try some without big smiles and show him how to smile with his eyes and relax the mouth. No one is offended because all this was discussed in advance. </p>

<p>As to the shaving thing. Wow - I would imagine the guy likes the look or doesn't care. I might say to him that he may love the way the photos turn out but just in case - maybe we can do some with and some without? That, of course, would be a problem if we were meeting on location. If it looked really scraggly and horrible I might ask him if he was going for a certain look? I might ask if this was his 'normal' look or if he sometimes shaves? I wouldn't do it in a judgmental way. Some young guys (like my nephew) always have that sloppy look and they actually like it. If the guy says something like - "I just didn't have time" I might reschedule or find a way he can shave. If he says - Yup - this is my normal look... then I just shoot away. </p>

<p>Just popped in while doing some research on possibly buying a 5D. Yup - digital.. Imagine that. And just for fun - I'm retired though I still do the odd small wedding and a bit of real estate stuff. Good to see familiar people and Nadine - who is doing a great job!</p>

 

<p>Thank you Gordon, Josh and Fred... I miss you guys too! I've moved to AZ and am doing photography for a local real estate agency, am pres of the HOA and have been busy decorating our new home. <br>

I have not had time for photo.net but if some time opens up in the future, I may return even if perhaps a day or two a week to help Josh out.. Just not in the cards right now. <br>

I was given very specific instructions when I took over the moderation of the POW from Philip and Patrick. The POW was to be a serious critique forum. It was to be a place where people could count on honest and informative feedback as well as a place were newcomers could learn how to critique by following the comments. I don't know how things are going there now or who is the mod - but perhaps people can get together and ask the moderator if they are willing to clean up any grandstanding and praise or neg feedback that is void of a critique and ask the contributors to give a reason why they did or did not like the image... <br>

I want to tell you that Josh pointed me here and I was so very touched when I read your comments. It's awfully nice to be appreciated.. Especially because every so often I'd get a really nasty email about my delete finger ;-) 98% of the time the contributor would happily or grudgingly see our point with regard to that special forum and how it was supposed to operate - but occasionally I'd be called every name in the book. I really never took it personally but reading this thread - it made it all worth while. </p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>Nadine is doing an amazing job. I'm still in the process of completing our move to Arizona and now tackling painting, plaster work, getting quotes for more work and so on. </p>

<p>I just wanted to thank Nadine in public. I think you will all agree she's a gem.</p>

<p>Meanwhile - I've just added her name and link to the right box on the side where it explains this forum and gives links to the moderator's community page. <br>

This year's contest on the Best of for the year is a wonderful success. Congrats to everyone for some wonderful images posted on both threads. <br>

Thanks Nadine!</p>

<p>Thanks so much Laura!</p>

<p>Hi all - I'm trying to help a relative who wants to get married in Williamsburg VA. I'm moving in a few days and only have access to my computer up until tomorrow night so any responses after that - I won't see until maybe a month from now.</p>

<p>Anyone heard of ModernWed documentary photography in Williamsburg? Any suggestions on good photographers in the area? She only wants to spend $2,000 but she is looking at a package for 2800. Photography is probably her biggest priority for the day. She's also looking at Kingsmill Resort.. Pro's ? Cons? Any other suggestions? </p>

<p>Thanks!!</p>

<p>PS - Hotel lobbies are also great for pictures. </p>

<p>I would use Grand Central Station. Huge - well lit and lots of great architecture and not that crowded on weekends. As to a permit.... I would (and have) gone with a couple to a location and get them to pretend that we are all 'friends' just hanging out and taking photos.. If an official was spotted watching us - I'd hand them the camera and have them pretend to shoot me (or me and my husband who came along to hold cameras). When we'd walk to another spot - the couple would hold one of the cameras as if it were theirs. They can't stop people from taking pics of each other as tourists. Trust me it works. </p>

<p>I've been known to stand outside and shoot the bridal portrait in the doorway. I'm under an umbrella not caring if I get wet - just as long as the equipment stays dry. Through a window is also wonderful (from outside in the rain. </p>

<p>When I look at a menu without prices - or I'm in a shop looking at items that are not priced and you have to ask what the price is - I know I'm shopping high end. <br>

I think people who approach you to meet you regardless of the fact that no prices are listed - are prepared for a high ticket photographer.</p>

<p>So my answer is that it depends on what market you are going after. If your clientele is price driven - and you know the range of prices that you book on a regular basis - I'd publish the "from _____ to ______. But I might say from _______ for a basic 4 hour package w/no frills to __________ for an 8 hour wedding with album and reprint rights w/disc etc. etc.</p>

<p>I've never lost anyone for group shots after the ceremony and have only shot in church 2x in my 17 years of shooting weddings and that is because it was raining and the venue wouldn't be good for photos.</p>

<p>When using another location besides the church grounds, we carefully plan the timing to make sure everyone has time to get to the location and we have enough time to do all the groups as well as the couple. If things run late - we have plan B which is often to do the couple at the park and meet the family back at the venue for outside photos there. They all have a map and directions and I start with whomever arrives first. Sometimes that's the bride's parents and the couple - so I start with that grouping and as people arrive - add them in to finish all the various groups. If they all arrive at once (most of the time), I shoot the largest group first and then the bride's family so they can get to the reception quickly.</p>

<p>Alec - It is one thing to hotlink to a photographer's site or to a password protected "order online" page on something like Smugmug but this looks like she's put her images into her photobucket account and we don't know if she has the rights to do so. </p>

<p>Price shoppers in large metro areas... In some areas it's worth it but in larger markets... not (pardon the pun)</p>

<p>Agree with Aimee - I also prefer the black. Scroll fast though the page - and one will pop out... It's the black one that does but I'd also loose the bubble gum color ;-)</p>

<p>Excuse the very super quick and dirty - you'll still see the tourqoise in the lettering and I'd also change the word color (not pink or red but black or dark green)</p>

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<p>Kodak had a meeting with some photographers about film. Josh Root was one and Daniel Bayer was another. Seems they're exploring so it doesn't seem like film is dead yet.</p>

<p>Thanks all - I'll be officially without computer acess for two weeks ;-)</p>

<p>Hi all - I just wanted to announce Nadine is going to be - and has been for a week - moderating this forum. I'm preparing to go to AZ and I'll be gone for two weeks staring on Aug. 4. I may peak in from time to time - but Nadine is in charge. </p>

<p>A big welcome to our new moderator...</p>