terry_connett

<p>Peter,<br>

Yes, I cycled through the "F" key and not the upper F1 - F12 keys. I know it is not a big deal but when you get used to something you would think that the "upgrades" in the PhotoShop series would include this. I just got used to being able to drag my images to the top of my monitor and then expand them to the entire size of my monitor with the floating pallets on top, therefore my "working space" was not limited by the top tool bar. If I wanted to see my tool bar to open an image (without hitting a hot key) all I had to do was simply drag my image down a bit to uncover my top tool bar.</p>

<p><strong>Opened in Lightroom, made adjustments, and finished out in CS3. Converted to sRGB for webposting. </strong><br>

<img id="fullSizedImage" src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/snayper/FishCS3-EditFinal.jpg?t=1243803029" alt="FishCS3-EditFinal.jpg picture by snayper" /></p>

<p>Those hints do not solve my question. Like I said, in CS2 I can drag an image up and over the top tool bar and in CS3 I can not. The image hits the bottom of the top tool bar and stops. It still freely moves all around the work area, just not over the top bar. Now, I do like the "Tab" hint which causes the pallets to disappear along with the bottom half of the top bar becasue if I roll my pointer over the extreme left or right side of the work area those pallets reappear for use and then disappear. That is something I was not aware of and will use. But I still would like to know why CS2 lets me drag and image over the tool bar while CS3 does not.</p>

<p>I have always been taught to save the more important files as a Tiff to prevent the file from degrading if it is a file that you may go back into and work on from time to time. Takes up more space than a jpg but it will not degrade. You can always export large files to a CD or external storage drive to save your primary hard drive space. </p>

<p>I have been using CS2 for several years now and have not had any issues but was able to pick up CS3 Extended for a dirt cheap price a few days ago. It works great and is fairly similar except for one major difference which has become an issue that I do not like at all.<br>

When using CS2 I could open an image to work on and could drag it all over the work space, including <em>on top of the tool bar at the top of the work space - the bar that has File, Edit, Image, Layer, etc</em>. In CS2 when dragging an image around the work space it would go under the left and right side pallets which is normal, but on top of the tool bar which was nice because I could then expand the size of the image to the whole 22 inch monitor screen for viewing and for using the left and right pallets, which float on top of the image (but can be minimized).<br>

With CS3 Extended, when I open and image and drag it around the work space, the image goes under the left and right pallets just like CS2, however, it abruptly stops when it hits the bottom of the top tool bar - it will not let my image ride over the tool bar like CS2 will. This now prevents me from expanding my image view, and working size, unlike CS2. <br>

Several years ago my CS2 photoshop instructor told us of a hot key or shortcut fix to allow the image to over ride the top tool bar move all over the work space and for the life of me I can not remember how to do this.<br>

SUGGESTIONS ANYONE ?<br>

Thanks </p>

<p>Andy,<br>

I am jumping on this discussion way late, but I agree with you 100%. As a professional commercial real esate photographer I have found it far easier and quicker to shoot my D200, and now a D300, in Jpeg Fine and then edit with a working space in PhotoShop CS2 (now CS3) in Adobe 1998. Once edited I save my Final files as a Tif. Anytime I upload photos to the internet I Convert to Profile srgb and anytime I upload images to White House Custom Color or Costco (killer prints at killer prices in record time!) I use their profiles. Likewise I copy files to a CD for customers either in RGB or sRGB depending on the intended use. I have found RAW to be way too time consuming for the work I do. I learned RAW and can use it, I just prefer to knock out what I do in Jpeg. To date not a single one of my commercial accounts, architects, magazines, or private customers have complained about my images - in fact I continue to get more work from them and referrals.<br>

To respond to another comment, I have used a D200 since it came out and only recently upgraded to the D300. I have made more money professionally off of the D200 with both the Nikon 12-24mm and Nikon 17-55mm f2.8 lens than I ever care to disclose. I recently upgraded to the D300 and have kept the reliable D200 as a backup second camera. Not that Ken Rockwell knows everything, but I do respect the majority of his product evaluations, tests, and comments and agree that the D300 is just as capable for professional work as the D3. But, some people like to adorn themselves with the most expensive bodies and BIG lenses at football games and company events to look more like a "photographer" than the real photographer hired to cover the event. You know the ones I am talking about. Like my PhotoShop instructor told us several years ago, the most expensive camera and lens out there, irrespective of brand, will not yield any better photos without the experience and operating knowledge of the shooter for starters, AND without the post production knowledge of the shooter or editor. Like with the best target rifle and scope, unless the shooter knows what he is doing, the chances of continuous "one holers", much less one bullseye at 500 yards, is impossible.<br>

By the way, those are fantastic images you posted. Nice colors.</p>