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the-digital-picture.com is a great place to check out what Canon has to offer.

I'm new, and so I wanted to look at Nikon too, and I was wondering if there was

a site that was similar?

 

Thanks in advance,

-jlt

Hey all, I've been looking for some sites online where they show the actual

diagrams of how changing aperture affects DOF and so on. I can't seem to find

a good one. Anyone know where you can see stuff like this?

About getting to a camera store...you know any good ones in the greater-Baghdad area? ;)

Haha, this is the problem with having multiple posts in multiple tabs at the same time. The comparison of those two lenses was my original intent and I was hoping to get other opinions from those who had experience in the matter...oops. <Clarification complete...no pixels were harmed in the making of this message>

Ha ha, are people taking the fact that I'm asking about lenses personal? There seems to be a little tension here.

 

The overall feeling I get is:

 

1. Start shooting and then you'll know (agreed)

2. Old School means prime.

3. William is old school.

4. Therefore William is prime.

 

Just kiddin' guys. You all make valid points. Dan, I get what you're saying about the XTi and such, but I would rather spend more money up front for better equipment than want it later and go out and buy another camera. The resale value on quality lenses and even the camera doesn't drop off that much, and if it does and I'm out the money...so be it. Worse things have happened. (PS - Iraq = tax-free pay) ;)

Good comment, William. Always keep in mind though, I'm still in the learning stage. A lot of people have been combining this with my last post 24-70 v 24-105, but that wasn't the intent. I just wanted to see if anyone had aerial exp and if they did, what were some pointers and the lens they used. Before I go out and spend $$$ (okay maybe $$$$$$) I just like to do a little research. These forums are awesome because you get a lot of opinions, so thanks to all who keep replying.

 

Once I get my camera, I'm sure I'll have better posts (with pics) and then you can still tell me what I'm doing wrong... ;)

 

-jt

Don't yet, that's another issue, but I'm thinking of the 5D.

"Colin and myself tonight"

 

Interesting, Colin

Little did you know that on a deployment, the true enemy is...time. I've got a lot of it.

 

Plus, no need to hold the cyclic between my knees...Blackhawk is a two-pilot aircraft.

Hello all,

 

I was looking between two lenses for starting and I realized maybe I'm limiting

myself. What do you think is a great lens for a new guy starting out? Just to

learn fundamentals of photography. I would like to go with a high quality lens.

 

I'm going to make a prediction now that I hear from Colin and WW... ;)

Ok, I have been trying to decide btw 24-70 f/2.8 and 24-105 f/4 IS. I'm an

Army helicopter pilot, and quite a few shots I presume will be taken from the

bird. Either at other helo's in flight (our trail birds are AH-1 Marine Cobras

which are pretty sexy...if you're into that sort of thing ;) or at

landscapes/cityscapes/Baghdad from the air.

 

Just trying to see the pro's cons of the wider aperture (2.8) vs. the IS. If

you've never been in a helicopter, the vibration will be a significant factor.

 

Does anyone have thoughts or experience in this area.

Okay, ya got me William. Would IS help when shooting from the helicopter...let's say for example a Hawk?

You could have put up two posts Alan...

This is just one of those "for my information" questions. I just want to hear

different peoples perspectives.

 

Just one lens, though...No, well I like this lens for this and that lens for

that.

 

One lens. :)

Seems like a simple question, but in what situations does IS come into play?

Canon's website will tell you it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, but I

was just wondering people's take on it.

 

I would especially like to know when you actually use it while shooting and not

just the theoretical (although that'll be nice too ;)

Any commentary would be appreciated. I'm a beginner and just looking at why to

go with either. Price isn't a deciding factor, I have no problem paying for

the 5D, but is the 40D better in some aspects, or is the 5D just a better

camera and thus double the price.

AHHH! You've succeeded in making me doubt myself again! You guys are good at making good points. Plus, when you guys are buying new lenses, do you get kind of giddy? ;)

 

Ok, so let's try this angle. I'm in the Army, and although currently deployed, I'm stationed in Germany which offers numerous opportunities to travel/photograph. For an all around travel lens, I'm guessing they both are comparable. (Although, the 24-70mm seems to weigh a bit, according to Mendel.)

 

Like I said, with the saved money, I was thinking of getting a 50mm f/1.4 or 85mm f/1.8 for places where no flash/tripods are allowed.

 

So, the starting kit would be:

 

Body: EOS-5D

Lenses: 24-70 OR 24-105 &

50 OR 85

Tripod: No idea yet (there's a lot of choices)

Bag: Crumpler 5 Million

 

Sorry to bring up more questions, but I guess it's kind of hard to rate how well the lenses will work without knowing what I plan to do.

 

So uses would be travel and, of course, just learning to use the dSLR ;)

 

-jami

Thanks to all. I understand your comments, Dan, and everyones. One of the best answers I saw was: If the advisor owns a 24-70, he'll tell you that's better, and if he owns a 24-105 he'll tell you that's better. <B>I think everyone agrees that these are both wonderful lenses.</B><P>

 

<U>I think I'm going to go with the 24-105mm for a few reasons:</U><P>

 

1. It has a wider range of focal lengths, and since I am new, I think that will give me a little more versatility.<P>

 

2. It has IS, which I can turn off, so I can experiment with IS and see what I think of it.<P>

 

3. There is a package deal with the Canon 5D and it saves me about $400. <P>

 

4. If later I find I want a smaller DOF, I can always pick up a 50mm f/1.4 or 85mm f/1.8 with the $400 I saved (see item 3).<P>

 

I do want to thank everyone again for taking the time to respond/reply. If you see any flaws with my logic, feel free to poke fun. I can take it.<P>

 

-jlt

Now, I'm new and know the basics, but not exactly the practicality.

 

I know that bigger apertures are more desirable (generally), but what exactly does the f/2.8 allow me to do that the f/4 doesn't. I mean somewhat specifically, at least more so than: It works in lower light ;)

First off, this is my first post on photo.net, and you all reply FAST!

 

Second, I checked that link, Gil, and that's the 5D and 24-105 f/4 L IS for $2700? That's pretty cool seeing as it's over $3K when purchased separately.

 

Thanks for all the help, everyone.

I'm going to be buying my first DSLR, the Canon 5D, and so I also want to buy a

general purpose lens to go with it.

 

Basically, it's the larger aperture (f/2.8) vs. the longer focal length and IS.

 

I would just like some opinions on what you think is a better general purpose

lens for a beginner?