leon_pugh

Thank you for the replies.

Perhaps I have some reading to do then....

Hello all,

I am considering going premium and maybe selling some of my photos from here.

I have not yet seen any "How To" on the subject.

Where can I find out more about online file sizes required , where to save the images, how to set up payments made to my bank account or paypal,.....

Is there something posted here?

Thanks

The mystery was fully solved this morning.

I was fuzzy on what happened when I posted the last update.

This morning, I woke remembering that I had whacked the camera while walking briskly through the hotel lobby, D5 and large lens (500mm f/4 I think) attached.

As I was walking briskly, the camera/lens impacted something in the lobby , a low corner of a very solid table or some stone bench or such. (I recently found my eyeglass prescription had changed and I now have new lenses , a bit late it seems !!!)

anyway...

It was a hard impact and I feared for my lens. I took some images to verify the lens was OK. It was, the images were sharp and focus was good across the frame. So I guess I forgot about it. I was more scared for the lens than I was for the camera.

However,.. that is precisely when my problem started. The battery started to drain, and Nikon tells me that the Bayonet was broken.

: (

I am glad I figured it out.

I was quite upset with nikon thinking it should have been repaired under warranty!

Wow! I am amazed and I feel quite embarrassed at my poor memory.

After speaking with Nikon Canada on the phone yesterday I began to wonder if I was ABSOLUTELY SURE

that the camera had never suffered a serious impact in the past.

I began to doubt my firm belief that it had not.

In fact a nagging foggy memory of an incident in a hotel parking lot came up...

so, it is quite likely this problem was caused by dropping the camera in the recent past.

I would have sworn on a stack of bibles one day ago that the camera had been free of this sort of history!

Case closed as a far as I am concerned.

"To be fair, that might have been quite a bit of work (and the replacement grip cover?)"

Actually the repair list says Rpl Grip which I image means replace grip.

They also replaced the bayonette, which as far as I knew was not a problem at all.

Absolutely no issues swapping lenses before sending it in.

I have NO idea what this means and why it would require replacement. Or, if it is just the grip cover.

They may have been going on assumption the drainage issue was impact caused or water ingress.

As such, I can see why they swapped out the bayonette as it contains contacts (and maybe components?).

Does the grip itself contain electronics that can only be replaced by swapping in a new grip??

I wouldn't think so.

No Andrew, it is not specific to one battery. I tried both the battery that came with my D5, the D4 battery and even a spare. They all drain when in the D5.

Here is what was supposed to happen....

The camera was sent in to fix the battery drain issue. While they had it they said that the window is cracked and they do not do partial repairs, to which I agreed... by all means, fix the window. Charge me for the window fix (piece of glass).

When you are satisfied that the impact to the window did not cause the short circuit/battery drain, fix that under warranty if possible (Camera was working fine until 4 days into a trip this august, no water damage, no drops, no abuse. Window crack happened several months ago) so, I was pretty confident they would open it up. Determine there was no damage under the LCD. Not find any signs of water ingress. and fix the battery drain issue under warranty. They did not even test the repair to see if it fixed the problem before they sent the camera back to me!!!

Their website (Nikon Canada) states prices for non-warranty work, and for battery draining problems they have a price of $700 or so. We also discussed this on the phone with them. So when they sent the quote ( I was told it is just a quote, it might be lower based on what they find) I agreed, expecting them to find a warranty issue and just charge me for the glass window.

The logical way to address this issue , determine if it was a warranty issue or user caused damage, was not followed.

The D5 came back today.

Conclusion seems to be the small crack on the window caused the short/battery drain issue.

They changed the bayonette. ??? No idea why.

They changed the grip.???

Are there electronics in the grip???? and did they change them???

They fixed and or replaced the LCD and window that sits on the top of the camera. There was a small cosmetic crack in it and I had it covered in packing tape (to immobilize it) for the last several months until I decided to send it in for a real issue.

Camera was working perfectly since i got it until day 7 of a one week photo trip to photograph yellowstone then swing over to Idaho for the eclipse.

It seems they decided the minor impact to the LCD window was cause for the battery draining, even though I told them it worked fine the several months it was taped up.

I was told if the camera was not damaged (by my carelessness) then it would be covered under warranty.

Well I got a bill to pay. $750 plus about $100 in taxes. So they did not cover it under warranty. $700 is their "non-warranty battery draining " repair fee.

So here is the kicker.... the camera still drains the battery. Hell, I got the camera back from them with a dead battery.

I put in a partially charged battery that I was using on my D4 at 2 pm with 4 bars. by 5 am it has dropped 2 bars, while turned off. I imagine another bar will go while I get some sleep.

I guess this goes towards showing that the cracked window and whatever was under it was not the cause for the draining battery. I still think it is a warranty issue. Perfectly good camera starts draining the battery part way into a photo shoot, in dry weather, no drops or shocks....

I have a polar bear shoot trip on oct 25. I wanted to take the camera. If I send it back I will never get it back in time.

IS ANYBODY ELSE HAVING THE SAME ISSUE ? D5, slowly drains the battery overnight?????

I have never had a battery drain problem but I have sent cameras back for other warranty issues shortly after warranty ended, and perhaps because I am an NPS member, they covered them. That's a good reason to join NPS and now that they have opened up membership I think anyone can do so. Used to be, you had to submit a portfolio, get a recommendation, etc. I think all that is gone. Suggest you check that out either way and good luck

I contacted Nikon by email (Nikon canada ? ) they told me that I had to fill out a form to get on the NPS program. The form wants a letter on company letterhead and asks for info on recent assignments ....

I guess having a D5, D4, D810, and close to $20,000 in lenses does not get you in automatically as a serious amatuer.

That's more gear than many pro's own!!!

I haven't heard of that problem with the D5, but it isn't like I have a large sample of D5 bodies to access.

 

Was your D5 purchased in Canada? I thought they may have a two-year warranty in Canada. I guess not.

..

Yes. And I called in about a week ago to verify, it is 2 years!

I should be covered.

I hope there is similar experience out there.

On my recent trip to photograph the eclipse in Iowa, my Nikon D5 started to drain the battery overnight while it was turned off.

I have never experienced this problem with any of my nikon cameras in the past.

Lucky I had my D4 with me as well and was able to use the spare battery.

It has consistently drained both batteries overnight while turned off since I have first noticed it.

The camera was not dropped or exposed to water.

It only happens with the D5. The same batteries when used in D4 keep their charge as expected.

Nothing is plugged into the D5 when I turn it off.

I did keep a lens attached overnight when I noticed this. (for the trip it was a 500mm f/4 or a 300mm f/2.8.)

I am taking the lens off right now and I am going to wait to see if the remaining charge disappears over the next couple of hours.

In the mean time...

On the nikon "schedule a repair" website/form there is a box to check for battery draining as a symptom.

I checked the box. completed the form and got an "estimate" of $500 (Canadian dollars?)

The camera was purchased june 2016. The camera was purchased new with a full year warranty.

I will try to phone service/support to see if they will accept it as a warranty issue seeing it is so close to one year.

Has anyone had a similar problem and if so... what was the problem?

Leon

<p>Thank you.<br>

I suspected that both processes would only affect the jpeg but was not sure.</p>

<p>Page 292 of the D5 manual explains long exposure noise reduction and High ISO noise reduction.<br>

<br />I am guessing that this applies to the in camera JPEG file and does NOT affect the RAW file.<br>

Am I correct in thinking that these noise reductions have no effect on the RAW file and I have nothing to gain if I shoot in RAW?</p>

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<p>I found the problem.<br>

Menu a12, custom setting menu, autofocus restriction.<br>

These things should be easy to find in the manual!!!</p>

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<p>I'll be taking my D4 in to have the rubber button cover and dust shield fixed.<br>

It has come off several times over the last year. I was able to get it re-attached each time, but it keeps coming off at random times. I would have lost it each time if not for the fact that a small edge of the dust shield around the rubber cap remains affixed to the inside of the camera.<br>

I wonder, <br>

Is this a common problem with the D4???<br>

Anyone else have this issue?</p>

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<p>Today I was out trying my D810 at a bird sanctuary. I could not get the camera into AF-C mode.<br>

I do it all the time with the D4, press the AF mode button near the base of the lens and spin the main command dial (the thumb-wheel).<br>

On the D810 doing this has absolutely no effect (AF-S remains the method displayed on the LCD) and spinning the sub-command dial in front of the shutter release button cycles through S, GRP and AUTO, none of which are AF-C.<br>

When I got home I checked page 87,88, 89, 306 and 307. It seems I am using the right technique, but nothing is happening.<br>

AF-S sucks for birds in flight.<br>

HELP!</p>

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<p>Just got the D810 home.<br>

Inserted one of the memory cards I was using in my D4, a Delkin Devices 32G (UDMA 6).<br>

The D810 gives a message saying it cannot format the card, that it might be defective.</p>

<p>I popped it into the D4. No problem formating or using this card.<br>

Back to the D810. It still will not format (or read) the card. <br>

Bizar.<br>

My other CF card, a SanDisk extreme 32G (UDMA) works in both cameras, no problem.<br>

I find it strange that the D4 has no issue with either card but the D810 does.</p>

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<p>Thanks all for the feedback.<br>

I found that link to hold interesting info.<br>

I made a reply earlier but it looks like the system did not accept it.</p>

<p>Do the new mirrorless cameras (Sony A6000, Nikon 1 V3) have 10, 12 or 14 bit a/d ?<br>

I have been unable to find anything on this, what I consider to be an important point.</p>

<p>Thanks to Michael Bradtke for nudging me in the proper direction.<br>

I performed some tests with a lightbulb, the ND filter and lenscap on the lens and the viewfinder blind open and closed. <br>

BIG difference!!!!!<br>

Problem solved.<br>

Thanks to all who replied.</p>

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<p>Thanks for the responses!<br>

To clarify.... <br>

I was not using Live View.<br>

I was not using Long Exposure Noise Reduction. <br>

I did not have the viewfinder covered (I thought it only makes a difference when metering, not while shooting as the flipped up mirror should prevent light leakage).<br>

I will have to look into the time the images were taken to see if the problem is due to continuous almost uninterrupted use of the sensor regardless of exposure and if a little time between shots improves things.<br>

I could also try covering the viewfinder with the built in blind. I can imagine light getting in through the viewfinder and leaking in around the mirror due to a non-100% light proof sealing of mirror when flipped up.<br>

As for Long Exposure Noise reduction.... I was under the impression this was for "noise" and that what I was experiencing might be quite different from noise which is more like banding. </p>

<p>It seems so far nobody has said they have experienced the same sort of issue (purple banding) as I have although it has been mentioned that this sort of blooming and hot amps thing happens.<br>

Again, thanks for the replies and suggestions.</p>

<p>I noticed some purple banding today in some of my images. I shot a series of 20, 30 45 second and 1 minute exposures at ISO 640. On one edge of 2 images purple blotch and a smaller blue blotch are visible.<br>

I was using a ND 10 stop filter to photograph water falls. <br>

I put the lens cap on over the ND and shot some dark frames at 15, 20, 30 and 57 seconds. The Banding became less and less visible, and the last 2 images look ok (JPG out of camera) but the in the raw image it is still seen if I tweak the exposure up 2 stops.</p>

<p>Do I have a problem with my D4 or is this normal?<br>

I posted a dark frame image. <br>

Here is a link...</p>

<p>http://www.flickr.com/photos/82664576@N03/9512495833/</p>

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<p>Thanks,<br>

You guys have nailed the issue! <br>

Nathan, thanks so much for telling me where to change things back! <br>

Lesson learned!</p>

<p>I recently updated the firmware on my D7000 camera.<br>

I used it the other day with my 500mm f/4 nikon lens.<br>

I notice new aperture values and others are missing.<br>

I would often shoot at f7.1, but that value is no longer available as I scroll the wheel, instead there is a value of 6.7. f10 is also missing being replaced by f9.5. I suspect the f4.8 value is new as well.<br>

Any idea what is going on here? Has the firmware changed something or have I flicked one of my settings by mistake? I can't see anything of use to change this in the menus.</p>

<p>Leon</p>

<p>Thanks for the responses.<br>

As far as any file recovery program working, I have tried Pandora Recovery. It is free.<br>

It sees the jpegs but doeas not see the RAW files on my d7000 sd card. I did not try it on the D4 media as I figured it did not see D7000 NEF files, it was not going to see D4 NEF files either.</p>

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<p>I would like to know if anyone with a D4 has been able to recover deleted files from a memory card using the Photorescu (http://www.datarescue.com/) software.<br>

There is a review claiming it works with D3 NEF files, but will it work with the new D4 NEF format?<br>

The demo version allows me to see the NEF thumbnails, but will not recover the file unless I purchase the software. And will the recovered file be 100% intact and readable by run of the mill graphics software?</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

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