ruddy_roye2

BTW Sebastian Kim

That picture is "stink" meaning funky. Just think black and you will know what I mean. I

love it. I did not see it before and just clicked over, it is off the chain man--great pic.

I love the mood and feel of the image

Thanks for sharing

As for Noah, if you read my first thread I said, "I have found that some of these guys that

open their mouths about Littman are haters, old farts who have not shot a good picture

since WW1. There are others who can guide you through positive criticism as to what you

should expect when you ask William to build you one of his cameras.

IF YOU NOTICE I SAID SOME OF THESE GUYS. You did not claim the "others" side of my

statement. I notice how quickly you jumped on the old farts side.

Well my mom always said that when you throw a stone in a crowd, the one who cries out is

the one who was hit. Bob Marley says it eloquently too when he sang, "who the cap fit, let

them wear it." I did not point out anyone, neither did i call anybody's name so i do not

know why YOU cried out of all the people participating in this thread. I was definitely NOT

calling YOU an old fart. I do not know anybody here. I was just merely generalising. Lee

said Ruddy Roye--that made it a bit personal.

I am also confused, I am not a Littman crusader, neither am I a Large Format camera buff.

But I do not know why there is so much anomousity when it comes to L and his camera. Is

it about the cost or is it about the man. That was question one

If it is about the cost, I do not see LUG users arguing over how incredulous it was of Leica

to come out with a 10 mega pixel digi back for $5K when Canon and Nikon were obviously

out there with their 12 and 16 megapixel cameras for less money. They also do not

discuss the maker/s of the Al A Carte cameras and how expensive it is to rebuild an M7

with your initials on the top. I really do not get it. I like Dean's Suggestion about taking

and viewing work. I am huge proponent of arguing and talking about work and vision.

If WL makes a camera that some view as elitist the best thing anyone can do is avoid

buying it. The anger and debasement seem personal and confusing. But thats just me.

Thats me on this thread--I am done

Well well Lee Hamiel

To tell you the truth, I have been reading various Photo.net threads over the course of a

year and a half since buying a Toyo field camera. I read almost everything that was ever

written about choosing lens and deciding whether to buy the AX or the All And even

before purchasing my Littman, I read the ten million comments that were made and

refused to join in then because I was still trying to make up my mind about the camera

and not listen to the diatribe that was been spewed at the time.. It all came down to the

ALPA and the Littman and I chose the Littman because my countryman Walter Chin, a hard

working photographer who was not given a silver spoon when he was growing as a

photographer in New york uses one, and a great friend of mine Beth Keiser who I met at

the Associated Press in New York encouraged me to trust William with my camera. Now I

am writing because you addressed me as an "it" in your thread. I do not know who you are

but I would like to know what kind of photographer would go to this much length to

discredit, desecrate, and devalue a fellow peer by using "it" to tarnish a persons image.

I have a website, I am a father and I am a man. My name is Radcliffe Leopold Roye, I was

born on December 12, 1969 in a small hospital in Montego Bay, Jamaica.

I have my own voice and vision as a photographer and I am no "it"

Thanks Michael for that answer.

I think that your words embody the idea of what I was trying to get at. I am from Jamaica,

from a working class family there too. I came here and through various jobs, some of

them lucky charms, found a way to work, pay my bills and afford a little of the equipment

that I either use regularly on a job or am just infatuated with. Leicas for one--maan, I did

a cart wheel when I found them but after a while it becomes less about the money and

more about what works for you. I bought a rollei wide a year and a half ago, spent $4500

and wish I had instead bought the Littman instead of now buying another $5K camera in

less than two years. But the thing is, I sold almost all my leicas to be able to afford the

Littman so I did not break open my Rockerfeller Trust Fund :-) As photogs, we do what we

have to do to take pictures or afford the toys we want. Let me repeat, to take pictures; not

sit on a computer and criticize other photogs when they are only trying to do what you are

not doing.

So Michael, again I thank you for your words. It could not have been said more directly

and eloquently.:-)

Hi Jean

Yes that was a 150mm Rodenstock lens. I actually ordered the same lens for the Littman.

And truthfully, if you want an L camera, let it be because it is going to make you and your

work better and not because some young gasser like myself talked you into it.

It Littman was making that camera for 10K it is still up to the buyer to chuck down their

hard earn money and buy it. William is not going to rob you on the street or over the

internet for you to use his camera. I really don't get it. How can you tell a man what he is

worth--or the product he builds with his fingers. I can see if he had it coming off the

assembly line then we could talk.

So Jean, what ever you decide be happy

Hi Jean

Being a new Littman owner and user I can tell you that it was a wild ride getting to the

decision to buy one. I also read the barrage of responses to the camera and i also did

some ground work like renting the camera and trying it out for a couple of days. I will say

this muchif 4x5 is what you are trying to move towards, it is a camera worth getting.

I am also a leica, hassy, and rollei user. I like all my cameras but I have also learnt that

only you can decide on what camera to get and what lens to get with it. It is your vision

and your eye. I have found that some of these guys that open their mouths about Littman

are haters, old farts who have not shot a good picture since WW1.

There are others who can guide you through positive criticism as to what you should

expect when you ask William to build you one of his cameras. I did and now William has

modified some of his newer cameras to appease those people who would like a stronger

more robust camera.

I have not had a lot of experience with the flash synchro on the camera, but the depth of

field is very good.

I hope I helped. And to tell you the truth, email William, he is a cool cat to chat with when

you get pass his defenses:-)

Radcliffe

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