william._a.

<p>Dear <a href="../photodb/user?user_id=6647446">Remi Kowalski</a><br /> Random Flower- ?Name Yes, it's a Japanese Anemone.</p>

<p>My favourite rigid LTM lens is the 5cm f2.8 Fujinon-L ,small and superbly built and with no infinity lock (which I prefer) and a superb performer.Unfortunately it is quite rare but they do appear for sale now and again.<br /> See:-<br>

http:// www.kuroneko-camera.com</p>

<p>Here it is;-<br /> <br /> See the link below:-<br /> http://www.peterwalnes.com/component/page,shop.product_details/flypage,shop.flypage/product_id,142/category_id,21/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,1/</p>

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<p>"there is no 1F delayed action."<br>

Yes there is, I know of at least one 1F-RD in existence with delayed action (1F-RDDA).</p>

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<p>Hello John,<br /> Many thanks for your reply.I will take some photo's with it in the next week or so and get them scanned and post some examples on this thread.Unfortunately I don't have a scanner of my own and have to rely on local film processor for scanning.I am still trying to find out further information about this Schneider War version,particularly if it has the same configuration as the Leitz Xenon.It may be that the Schneider version was further developed during the War years since the Leitz version lens appears to have a longer barrel and only stops down to f/9, but the Schneider version seems to have a shorter more "chunkier" barrel and stops down to f/16.<br /> From the serial number(Ser.No.1917613) it seems to have been produced in 1944.<br /> Regards, William</p>

<p>And another photo :-</p><div></div>

<p>Here is a photo of my lens on my Leica II.</p><div></div>

<p>I have a Schneider 5cm f/1.5 War Xenon on my Leica II.This is a different lens to the Leitz Xenon version.Does anybody else have a lens like mine and would anybody know if the design and configuration of the Schneider version is the same or is it different to the Leitz version.</p>

<p>Many thanks to Akira,John,Brian and Winfried for your very useful comments and recommendations.<br>

I am hoping to try the lens on my Leica II and IIIc in the next week or two.<br>

I was worried that the "Barnack II" and the IIIc might have some difficulties in accurate focus with this lens particularly as some Leica M and M8 users had reported problems with even the latest Leica M's when using the high speed Noctilux and Canon f/1.2 Ltm lenses on their cameras.</p>

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<p>Does anyone on the forum use a Canon 50mm f/1.2 ltm on a pre-war "Barnack" Leica?.<br>

Other than the partly blocked viewfinder which can be overcome by using a SBOOI finder,does the rangefinder give any problem with correct focus considering the lens has very shallow d.o.f. at the full aperture of f/1.2.</p>

<p>Hello Brian, If you are in USA check www.kevincameras.com and click on Canon RF , then on Canon filters usually available (UV) about $40.<br>

If you are in the UK,the Real Camera Co. in Manchester have new 40mm UV's for £14.99, e-mail Jem Kime on <a title="jem.kime@ntlworld.com" href="mailto:jem.kime@ntlworld.com" title="jem.kime@ntlworld.com"> jem.kime@ntlworld.com</a></p>

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<p>Hello,I am almost certain that Zeiss Ikon did one for the 6x6 Super Ikonta.</p><div></div>

Ray DiCecca , Nov 09, 2008; 07:13 a.m.

 

Owning both a mint IIIf RD w/Summitar and an M6 Classic, I would love to add a II w/5cm Elmar to my arsenal. Question: since there are no strap lugs, how do you guys walk around with them. Is there some type of half case w/strap available Leica or otherwise? I would be afraid of it falling out of my hand.

 

 

Ray,

Luigi of Leicatime does a superb half case for the Leica II.

See :- http://www.leicatime.com/a000-CasesLeicaScrewMt.htm

Paul Neuthaler [subscriber] , Nov 07, 2008; 09:05 a.m.

 

The Leica II is a delicious, tiny-in-the hand, first rangefinder-fitted Leica. In many ways, Leitz could have

stopped after this model & we would have a wonderful, special 35mm camera -- IMHO

 

Paul,I couldn't agree more.Great camera.

William

Most likely a refurb, like this early "mushroom release" camera.

It seems that Canon did not produce a lenshood specifically for the 35mm f/2.0.

When one fits this lens with the Canon "flattie" filter,as recommended so that

there is no problem with vignetting,the lens must surely suffer from unavoidable

flare if used without a hood.It has been suggested to me that a 40mm screw hood

could be used but using the Canon "flattie" Skylight filter no screw thread is

available to enable the hood to be attached.

Could anybody tell me what hood they use with the Canon "flattie" filter fitted

on their Canon 35mm f/2.0.to overcome this problem and which will not cause

vignetting.

Many thanks,William

Andrew,

I forgot to mention that I would be very interested in your opinion of the Trinol lens when you have your first film back from processing.

Regards,

William.

Hello Andrew,

Many thanks for this information.I knew of the Amotal which was originally fitted as standard to the American Foton camera.I believe that the surplus Amotals were mounted in Italy for use on Leica Screw mount cameras, but in rather inferior quality mounts.

I also knew that the National Optical Co. was based in Leicester but was unaware that it was closely linked to Taylor,Taylor & Hobson and owned by them.

The link to the Periflex camera is interesting because I knew that Ken Corfield had purchased lens elements from the British Optical Co.for his early Periflex cameras e.g.the 50mm f/3.5 Lumar and Lumar-X and the 100mm f/4.0 Lumar.However he did not use the more substantially built and heavier 50mm(2")National Optical lens because his choice of standard lenses for the Periflex were the fore mentioned 4 element Lumar and Lumar-X which were much lighter in weight due to their aluminium mounts and his later lenses he purchased from Enna in Germany.

Therefore would it be right to assume that the National Optical Co. and the British Optical Co. are the same firm?(Corfield connection)

I assume the very similar mountings of the National Optical 2" f/2.0 and the T.T.&H 2" f/2.0 have lead to the "clone" theory being attached to these two lenses.

The Trinol lens is another interesting lens about which there are some facts still with unanswered questions.I read that the Stewartry firm was for a time based in Western-super-Mare (during WW11) and had later connections with Scotland, at which time the Trinol mounts must have been produced because they are marked "Made in Scotland".

It is a tragedy that the records containing so much information about the British producers of aftermarket Leica Thread Mount lenses and their products in the early Post-War period have not been fully recorded for future generations.Taylor,Taylor & Hobson in particular has been described as the British "Zeiss" because of their long association with, and production of, top quality lenses for many,many years but so little is recorded about this firm and its achievements.

This lack of information also applies to Dallmeyer,Ross Ensign,Wray and the products of Cook & Perkins (not to mention the Ilford Witness Saga)

Many Thanks,

William

Does anybody on the forum own and use this lens.Its production is surrounded in

mystery and judging by its extreme rarity it would seem that it was produced in

very small numbers perhaps one batch of only 250 lenses.It is a British, late

1940's(?) or early 1950's lens, which is in a Cook and Perkins(marked

accordingly) focussing mount and barrel and is very similar to the more easily

acquirable 50mm (2") f/2.0 Taylor,Taylor & Hobson lens fitted also in a Cook &

Perkins mount which was fitted as standard to the Reid cameras produced by Reid

& Sigrist in Leicester,England.Some literature suggests that the National lens

is a clone of the Taylor,Taylor & Hobson lens but this fact is still to be

researched and resolved and as far as I know the optical formula of the National

lens (Elements/Groups) is unknown.

The lens serial numbers engraved on the lens ring are 354xxx and the last three

digits xxx are engraved on each individual lens barrel which probably means that

each lens cell was matched to its own particular barrel.

My lens is 354160 and I only know of one other 354204 at the present time.

The barrels are also engraved with various British and U.S.Patents, and I

understand that the British Patents refer to the mounting of the lens cell and

not to the optical design,the details of the U.S.patents are not known to me.

 

British patents:-377537,461304,507184,587090.

U.S patents:-1955591,2117251.

 

If anybody has any further information or owns and uses this lens I would be

very interested to know.

$89039 AND NO FLASH TERMINAL COVERS,I'll pass on this one !!!!!!

This is just a normal Post-War conversion of a Leica 111(1937) to Leica 111F specification.It is not a "Monte en Sarre".

All "Monte en Sarre" cameras have a separate serial number listing in the "Hahne List of Leica Screwmount Cameras" and you will find that this camera is not listed as a "Monte en Sarre" but is listed as a 1937 Leica 111.

David,

In my younger days I searched for a 5cm f3.5 Elmar LTM with E39 mount(like the Holy Grail) but with no success and in desperation asked Leitz Information Service at Wetzlar about it,to be told that Leitz never made available a 5cm F3.5 with E39 fitting for the screw Leica,and I then realized I had been searching for years for something that didn't exist.Laney's book is misleading on this point and needs to be corrected.The 5cm F2.8 Elmar (using the then new rare-earth technology) in screw mount is a very underated lens and should be more appreciated by LTM users for their Screw cameras,it has been neglected in favour of the more widely known "Red Scale f3.5 Elmar" which it surpasses in many respects.

Kindest Regards,

William

David,The lens Leitz never made!!!

David,

Sorry but I beg to differ.The 5cm F2.8 Elmar was available in Leica Screw Mount and many IIIg's were available code GOOEL with this lens fitted as standard and 5cm f2.8 Elmar in Screw mount on its own was code ELMOO.

The Swedish Army Black IIIG's were fitted with 5cm F2.8 Elmars and marked with the "three crowns".Leica NEVER made a 5cm F3.5 Elmar with E39 filter fitting in SCREW MOUNT.All Screw mount 5cm F3.5 were only available in A36 filter fitting.

The E39 lenshood you mention was issued for the 5cm F3.5 Elmar in M-Bayonet mount and the 5cm F2.8 Elmars in Screw and M-Bayonet mount.

If you do not believe that 5cm F2.8 Elmars in Leica Screw fitting were

ever made just look at Kevin Cameras websight and you will find a 5cm F2.8 Elmar in Screw Fitting available for purchase and a "three crowns" Swedish Army version for sale on www.leicashop.com. in Austria.

Regards,

William

Hello David,You mention the 50mm f3.5 Elmar LSM as being available in E39 (filter)mount, but it was never produced in LSM mount, only in M mount.The 50mm f3.5 in LSM was only available with A36 (filter) mount with the "fiddly" aperature control.

The only 50mm LSM lens with E39(filter) fitting was the f2.8 Elmar.

Kind Regards,William