john_fatin

<p>It is defective because the cone is too short, being not on specs.<br /> This has been <strong>acknowledged</strong> <strong>in writing</strong> by both Paul Droluk and the dealer.<br /> The cone is part of a defective batch, it should be replaced or refunded.<br /> As it cannot be replaced because there is no availability, it should be refunded.<br /> I don't know why this is so difficult to understand.</p>

<p>Paul Droluk wrote :<br>

"As previously explained, we no longer have the <strong>correct</strong> Cone Assembly available. As you did not acquire the Cone Assembly from us directly, we can not accept a return directly. Any further transaction must go through the dealer... we will <strong>honor our commitment to the dealer, and accept a return from them</strong> ."<br>

But the dealer won't honor his commitment to the buyer.</p>

<p>His reply :<br>

<em>"Hallo<br /> It is clear that the depth of field on this lens will not cause any problems when used correctly.<br /> <br /> It is also clear that your photography project has finished and you are also trying to minimize<br /> your costs by claiming this refund.<br /> <br /> I would suggest you sell it.<br /> <br /> Best rgds"</em></p>

<p>In a word, he sold me a defective cone and suggest I resell, lying my way to the cheque book of some one else as he he did with me.<br>

Nice character indeed. Cannot even figure out someone could have principles.</p>

<p>David, you're right, but I have been quite fast in representing the fact both to the dealer and the manufacturer<br>

(within a week).<br>

Now, this will be a registered letter to the dealer. It happens to be a (small) company based in the UK, so your<br>

advice is clearly useful here.</p>

<p>To be clear :<br /> #1 Paul Droluk replied, but the dealer did not.<br /> # 2 I know Fotoman closed business 7 months ago.<br /> # 3 About Toyota. If a dealer sells me a defective car and won't repair/replace it, honouring its T & C, I call "Tokyo".<br /> # 4 The cone is defective (cut is too shallow for the lens). It cannot be replaced (see # 2).<br /> # 5 If I feel like selling it and keep the 90 XL to mount it on another cone/camera, I cannot.</p>

<p>I bought a Fotoman PS 45 from a registered Fotoman dealer.<br /> Camera was sold with a 90 XL cone.<br /> After some tests, it appeared the cone is too short.<br /> Reply from Paul Droluk : we had a batch of cones which<br /> were not on specs indeed, but it should not affect shooting.<br /> Right, but it affects my ability to sell the gear if necessary,<br /> the cone being non sellable as it is.<br /> Paul Droluk advised to contact the seller and return the cone<br /> to him.<br /> I did contact the seller.<br /> 5 times.<br /> Without <strong>any</strong> reply.</p>

<p>Now I have a small problem.<br>

I mounted my 90 XL on a new 90 cone by Fotoman, provided by a Fotoman retailer.<br>

When the lens is mounted (properly, it seems), I cannot turn the helical mount further<br>

than somewhere between 2 m and 1,5. I cannot go right to 1,1 m, which is the minimum<br>

focus distance. In fact, the rear element cannot move beyond, not having enough room<br>

inside the cone to go all the way.<br>

What am I missing here ?<br>

Lens is very recent and cone is new.</p>

<p>Apart portrait in 4x5, I don't easily get the interest of a long lens (namely 180)<br>

for panoramics (617).<br>

I found an interesting thread on Luminous Landscape stating that it allowed<br>

nice interplay between foreground and middle-ground, but what's more to it ?</p>

<p>Thank you, Paul.<br>

I'm all the more puzzled, because your specs sheet for Fotoman 617 indicate<br>

that the Super Angulon XL needs two spacers, and not just one.<br>

In fact, I have the 90 XL and I need to understand if the 617 + Super Angulon classic<br>

cone will be compatible.<br>

Regards<br>

JF</p>

<p>My dealer tells me Fotoman 617 cones for Schneider 90 6.8 and 90 5.6 <strong>XL</strong> are the same.<br /> <br /> I'm not so sure.<br /> <br /> Has anyone the exact reply ?<br /> <br /> Thanks to all</p>

<p>It seems quite clear, Bob (if I dare say so).<br>

;-)<br>

Thanks a lot for your time.</p>

<p>Finally, could we consider the Center Filter as mandatory for B/W portraits ?<br>

Some photogs consider it's mainly useful for color and landscape.<br>

Is the falloff so annoying ? It could be part of shot too.</p>

<p>Yes, apparently the difference won't be noticeable, especially for BW.</p>

<p>Bob,<br>

I don't get it, because I only see "also usable CENTER-FILTER IVa",<br>

not the opposite.</p>

<p>You mean IVa can be used with 72 as well as IVb with 90 ?<br>

But Schneider gives it only one way and not the opposite.</p>

<p>Thank you, Michael.<br>

I hope the reverse were true : using the IVb with the 90 mm XL.<br>

Apparently, Schneider gives only the :<br>

5.6/90 XL IVa 96° 201 110° 259</p>

<p>Thanks a lot Bob.<br /> In fact, I had finally found the information comparing on BH pages.<br /> Awful kind of you, thank you for your time.</p>

<p> </p>

<p>I've been there first (www.schneideroptics.com). Never found the reply, either in Filter or XL Lenses.<br /> Apparently Adorama has two different references for 72 mm and 90 mm XL Center filters,<br /> but I'm not sure though because both are 95 mm diameter.</p>

<p>I wonder if the thread/diameter for the Center Filter is the same for both lenses ?</p><div></div>

Eugene,

When using "Cinema", to my eye, everything as highlight cast on it.

In "Cinema calibrated", it'sd all yellowish.

I work with Adobe RGB.

We are in a project with a wealthy friend who is selling his art collection.

Apart the catalogue shooting (which is done by the auctioneer), I proposed to do

a series of pictures, at his place, for a book project with a publisher in Paris.

First, I do it mostly for fun.

 

Then, we'll have to discuss two aspects :

1. Property of images

2. Publishing of the book.

 

Regarding # 2, it's relatively easy, I'm used to work for publishers.

Regarding # 1, my friend told me they bought previous pictures made by another

photographer some years ago, so they have entire property of these images.

I don't want to follow suit, at least for some of my images, which I intend

to sell as prints ? or to magazines.

 

Before talking to my lawyer for advice, any of you have some ideas ?

I dont find any forum at that address?

Update : Profoto warranty is for US only if bought there.

But? difference of price is about 40%. Is it worth the risk ?

Hi,

I'm in Brussels.

Profoto is quite expensive in Europe, much less in the US, due to the dollar.

Same equipment bought from BH Photo video cost 35% less.

Question : would you buy a Profoto Compact 600 Kit plus accessories from BH ?

I mean, I bought other gear from them, I trust them.

Question is more : if any problem, how warranty applies etc. ?

Your advice ?

How come both links give Error 404 ?????????

Muchas Gracias, Bob, et tr賠belle ann饠2008 ;-)