shineofleo

<p>Hi guys,</p>

<p>Thank you very much for the great replies. As I said, this may be fixed by another software, but I really want to find out the root cause. Some notes:</p>

<ul>

<li>I have installed the latest version of EOS Utility in case a buggy old version.</li>

<li>I have double/triple checked the permission on NAS folder. Since another software can write to this folder, it should be fine right? I use Adobe LR and love it, DSLR Remote Pro works as well.</li>

<li>Yes, I was trying to set up a test partition on the NAS, but I failed to do it... Synology DS112 is a single disl NAS and I could not create a smaller partition...</li>

<li>I used IP address to find the NAS and mount it. It is common enough and works for other software.</li>

</ul>

<p> <br>

Thanks anyway! I think in the future, if the >2TB HDD is populater, Canon may realize this and fix it! As some said, EOS Utility feels a bit funny for the design and functionality... I would be happy to move to other software! Due to the work flow, I prefer to capture photos to NAS directly, and I really wish the network speed and stability will be even better in the future!</p>

<p>So this really drove me crazy. I searched the whole internet but got no answer.</p>

<p>Basically I connect the 1D Mark IV to computer (tried several PCs including Win7, Win8, WinXP) via USB cable, using EOS Utility, to transfer the photo to computer. My plan was to store the photo to NAS (network storage) directly.</p>

<p>The solution works well when using my WD network drive, all the time. Days ago I just bought a new Synology DS112 + 3TB WD HDD. I did the similar setting, and mapped a folder (e.g. 'test') into 'My Computer'. Then the weird thing happened: EOS Utility said something like 'not enough room, can not capture more photo' with red font on the top, and the shuttle can not be released, camera LCD showed 'PC FULL', then EOS Utility said 'Capture failture'.</p>

<p>This is ridiculours, because the NAS is new and there is more than 2T on it!</p>

<p>Firstly I though it is windows access control, but I double checked, everyone has full access to this 'test' folder. Then I made some experiments, the result is even more confusing:</p>

<p>1, In EOS Utility I set the destination folder to local drive, and it works.<br>

2, In EOS Utility I set my WD Live book mapped network drive, and it works again!<br>

3, Then I use another software DSLR Remote Pro, connect to 1D MarkIV with the same setting, set to Synology NAS. And guess what, it works!</p>

<p>Obviously: Synology NAS is fine, the access setting is fine; EOS Utility can work with mapped NAS, the software is fine. So the conclusion is EOS Utility HATEs Synology?</p>

<p>Then I tried more, and felt that this can be a big. Then I notice that only Synology has more than 2T (2.67T to be exact) free space on the mapped drive, WD or local drive can be big, but less than 2T free space.</p>

<p>I could not test now, but I am wondering if the EOS Utility software has a problem to recognize the more than 2TB space? So the program things the space is less than 0 (overflow). Normally the program tells you how many photos you can take given the free space, so perhaps that's the problem? DSLR Remote Pro is better than EOS Utility, and it can use UNC path but EOS Utility can not, which can be a proof.</p>

<p>This is my only conclustion, but can not find any similar cases on the internet. Since 3TB hhd is quite common now, anyone has the similar problem? Any comment is appreciated. Thanks a lot!</p>

<p>In case those who are waiting for the solution, the D800(E)/D4 tethering issue is solved in Lightroom 4.2 RC.</p>

<p>I read the news and downloaded the 4.2 RC. Just now installed and tested, now my D800 can tether capture pictures to Win7 64bit in the Lightroom.</p>

<p>I have waited for some time so I think it is good news to share.</p>

<p>Cheers,</p>

<p>Leon</p>

<p>Thanks Joel. I think we should be the same: transcend 32GB 400x CF card and RDF8 USB 3.0 card reader, and I have upgraded it to TS-10 firmware. So you are all right with MAC?</p>

<p>It is very weird. Just now I tried again. It is fast to copy several files (TIFF for example) from HDD to CF card, but from CF to HDD it is slow again - 3 MB even hundreds of KB per second. When using ATTO or crystaldiskinfo to benchmark the CF card, I found the reading speed is USB 3.0 spec - 90 MB/s! Again, this is not happening for copying file from CF to HDD.</p>

<p>I originally use Lightroom but it is slow, and that's why I want to test with windows file explorer.</p>

<p>And as I mentioned before, when using Nikon D800 direct USB 3.0 connection, everything is in USB 3.0 so I am wondering there is something wrong with the reader, or something else.</p>

thanks Shun, I think the card reader is the weakest link, and I will try to get another reader to test.

Actually I tried the combination on another pc with usb3 port, it is still slow file copying performance.

However, I checked the Internet finding that transcend uses genesys logic GL3220 as the card reader controller, same for

many cheap usb3 card readers. But I can find nothing about imagemate reader.

There was something even worse happened. I imported some photos using the card reader into Lightroom, and it

finished. When I was checking the pictures, I found some of them were faulty: one was in negative style, some were

showing horizontal bands. I was scared and thought a faulty Nikon D800. But later I found the original photos on CF were

good. Import again and fixed it.

Then, I was not surprise, because I used a extension USB 3.0 cable. Of course I removed the extension, but the copying

speed is still slow.

The D800 direct connection at least told me my card is all right. However, perhaps the system setting or anti virus

software did something funny? Since bench mark software shows fast transfer rate? Stupid win explorer reason?

Anyway I will keep the thread updated when I give it a closure,

<p>Sorry to bring this up but again I am very confused.</p>

<p>The same CF card, it performs very well using Nikon D800 USB 3.0 connection directly; however, it is very slow using the card reader (Transcend F8).</p>

<p>ATTO software indicates the card performs fast, but why? Why on card reader is so different from Camera body connection? by the same USB 3.0 interface and cable</p>

<p>Any idea?</p>

<p>Jenna, sorry I was not clear. I think other's replies have explained it. I mean the operation is not comfortable compared with camcorder. The handling, the view finder, although the video quality is good.</p>

<p>Actually, it is all the personal experience. Example: someone never used camcorder, and DSLR was the only video recording device on the planet, I believe he would not complain a lot. My suggestion is that you should try both, and make the decision.</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>Hi Elliot, I used D3 as well then got the D800. Generally speaking, the AF of D800 is all right and I am happy with it. Until now I used 70-200 F/2.8 VRII a lot and 16-35 F/4 lenses, for events photography.</p>

<p>When I explored the function of D800, I tested the more advanced AF which is not in D3. The 3D tracking works quite well, especially for fast moving objects.</p>

<p>However, in live view and video recording mode, the AF is not good. I am not going to discuss more about that because we all know it is normal. And manual focus is suggested in video recording anyway.</p>

<p>Hope it helps.</p>

<p>I can confirm that I am using USB 3.0 port, with blue frame, and driver installed.</p>

<p>Another thing is, the Crystal Disk Mark test result showed the sequential transfer speed is around 90MB/s for reading and 50MB/s for writing a 100MB block. The software may not the best, and the 100MB sequential means little for 15MB small files transfer, but this speed should prove the correct USB 3.0 port configuration? and of course, the card reader, and the card itself.</p>

<p>Just got the MB D12 battery grip. It feels good with D800 (I hope it has to be, because it is expensive!)</p>

<p>I don't have a second EN-EL15 so I filled in 8 AA Eneloop. I changed the battery type in the menu to Ni-MH. There is no battery indicator for this kind of source, which I think is reasonable.</p>

<p>The framerate does go up to 6 fps BUT not for FX.</p>

<p>By the way to be honest, I think this kind of design of grip is not as good as previous ones like D200 grip. D200 grip looks ugly and inconvenient to carry, but it makes sense: You can insert/recharge two batteries easily, but now, when the one inside camera died, you have to take off the grip, charge it, then put it back. Nikon has changed the grip design long time ago, but this is my first time so it seems a bit late. :P</p>

<p>Hi Guys,</p>

<p>So I got a transcend 400x 32G CF card for the D800, and I use transcend F8 USB 3.0 card reader. The Crystal Disk Mark tested well with this card, which reads (Card to computer) fast at 80-90 MB/s.</p>

<p>However, I found it is very slow to import the pictures in real world. I use Lightroom 4.1, and it takes ages for the card reader transfer some pictures (20-ish) from CF card to computer hard drive.</p>

<p>There may be multiple possible causes. For example, faulty card? (I don't think so). So I checked the internet, and some say Crystal Disk Mark is not a good test software anyway. Now what I am guessing: for a big file e.g. 50MB, the reading performance is good, but for many smaller files (15MB each for example), it can take some time. I also excluded the LR cause, see below.</p>

<p>Anyway, I just want to ask around if there is anyone else has the similar issue: 32G fast card imports very slowly?</p>

<p>By the way, I also tried to copy the pictures from CF card in windows 7 system. It IS slow, the transfer rate is around 8MB/s-9MB/s. (Correct me if I am wrong about the unit, which I believe it is the same as in test software)</p>

<p>Any comment is appreciated. Thanks!</p>

<p>Leon</p>

<p>I use EH-5 with EP-5B for my D800 and it works well.<br>

(And EH-5 is from third party..)</p>

<p>I've got 35-70 f2.8 and the AF is not very fast, especially in dark surroundings. As mentioned above, it is always tough in darkness.</p>

<p>If no flash is allowed, I agree that a fast prime would be better. Also, SB flashguns has focus assistance light, which may be helpful. But you have to switch the flash off... Or, what about SU-800?</p>

<p>Also the camera body is important here, high ISO performance is very much needed. </p>

Thanks for the info! I'm in fact some guy doesn't believe DSLR can do good filming job. Now that D800 has such

impressive video function, I want to give it a try!

very helpful, cheers!

<p>OMG... I forgot to mentioned camera !!! Sorry!!!</p>

<p>It is D800!</p>

<p>So this is actually more video recording stuff but I really could not find the specific topic on internet. It would be great if anyone can give some advice directly, or point me to somewhere else. Thanks in advance.</p>

<p>The video recording quality is superb! I tested a bit today, however I have several idea/issues regarding to the recording:</p>

<p>1, Sound recording. The internal mic is good, but too sensitive. The wind noise can be annoying, and more importantly, the AF action noise will be recorded very well. So an external MIC is necessary, if you really want the sound.</p>

<p>2, My biggest problem, is the AF. The scenario: someone is walking slow towards to me and I want to keep his face clear all the time. Assuming I want it done automatically, how to do it? Is there a good AF tracking function? Press AF-on button can do the focus, but it is slow - which is normal according to the manual, saying the live view focus is slower. (By the way the lens is 70-200 F/2.8 VRII) And the AF will blur the entire view out and re-focus again, which is not I want for the scene.</p>

<p>Someone may say AF-F (full time servo) mode may help. But I find the change of focus is not fluent. At the same time, you can hear the AF is in action given the noise, so you will realize the lens/camera is very 'nervous' about the moving object. In my scenario, the object moves slowly to the camera. This should be an easy one because it will be more challenging if it move fast across from left to right, e.g. car or birds.</p>

<p>3, Anyone could suggest a proper F-number for movie shooting? Does it work in the same way as photo mode, e.g. DOF and brightness? Obviously it is different since the shuttle speed is ... well, I don't know.</p>

<p>Thanks in advance!</p>

<p>Leon</p>

<p>My first reaction was looking at the date...</p>

<p>I think I made a correct decision... </p>

<p>:D</p>

<p>I am looking forward to the grip, as someone mentioned in the forum, buy or not to buy grip would decide what kind of L-bracket we should get.</p>

<p>I think keep waiting would be the strategy, and price will drop eventually...</p>

<p>I was also thinking about the memory cards for D800. My idea is this:</p>

<p>* CF card for photos. So high speed is not necessary and I can save some money on it. How about 30 MB/s sandisk card? I have them from D3 anyway.<br>

* SD card for video/backup/flowover. I find that high speed SD card is cheaper than CF. Sandisk got extreme pro SD card at both 45 MB/s and 95 MB/s. It is said that full HD 30fps can be 45MB/s data rate, so I decide to get 95 MB/s version. Perhaps it is an over kill, but I just want to make sure.</p>

<p>By the way, for HD video, due to the 4G limitation, only near 20 minutes for a continuous recording is possible. I am wondering when Nikon can break it by not using FAT32? </p>

<p>About the capacity, of course the bigger the better. 16-32G may be proper I think. So I really want a USB 3.0 solution - fast card, fast reader and USB 3.0 port on my PC - to make the transmission a bit faster. D800 have the USB 3.0 interface but I guess more people prefer card reader? </p>

<p>Yeah down-sample is the magical word, and it is compared with D4 quite often.</p>

<p>I think most reviewers think the original size of D800 photo does not perform badly, because the <em>think</em> a high density sensor should do worse.</p>

<p>Check the price of EN-EL18 and MH-26 charger for it, and that's a ridiculous price!</p>

<p>MB-D12 battery grip provides the option for EL18, which increase the battery capacity and frame rate. But I think the reasonable scenario is for the D4 owner, as D800 backup camera!</p>