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<p>Steve,<br>

there are many challenges to color management. For example, in your picture you have saved the picture using the Adobe RGB color space, while the world wide web is pretty much an sRGB color space. Adobe RGB is a much wider space than sRGB, so colors in Adobe RGB are compressed into the available colors in sRGB.<br>

Then there is the big problem of the viewer's monitor and its capability to display color spaces accurately. I can remember walking into an old TV store and seeing the same show looking different on all the sets.<br>

I am afraid that unless the color management is coordinated across platforms (scanner or digital camera, monitor, web...printer), adjusting colors adjusts unknowns and replaces them with unknowns.<br>

Having said that, I suggest that you are on the right track by attempting to get scan of the colors 'right' prior to adjusting in photoshop, saving photoshop for fine tuning the picture. With film, it seems to me that getting it right in the field, then having the scanner accurately portray that capture accurately will simplify your process and save you time for more field work.<br>

(Technique for digital capture for processing is different than for film capture. For film, the photographer exposes to get the picture to look the way the photographer wants; for digital capture, many recommend using exposure to maximize information that later can be manipulated to show what the photographer wants. Often, the film and the 'correct' digital exposures look entirely different to begin with).<br>

Keep on shooting and having fun,<br>

Steve Larson</p>

 

they're back :)

Question: is the database management responsible for the loss of 'Comments on Gallery" section on each members home page or is it a permanent change ?

 

thanks,

 

Steve

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attempts to fix humpty dumpty always seems to leave pieces. context shift: suggest create alternate universe that generates greater interest. example:

 

Gunfight at the PN Corral.

 

Format: weekly team competition to determine best photograph in a given catergory. catergories are the 10 (prefer 19 but that makes 5 month comp)chosen in advance by PN from the listed Critique by Catergory, weekly sequence follows posted listed order. points awarded weekly based on final average rating accumulated over two weeks. results published in third week. teams ranked by score in catergory and overall.

 

 

Rules: teams consist of paid subscribers only, 4 to 8 members, each paid subscriber limited to one team. one team member per team submits team's one photograph for that week's category. overall, no one team member contibutes more than 3 photographs, each team member must submit at least once.

members of teams can not rate any photographs. other paid and non paid subscribers can rate as is normal now. top and bottom number of ratings submitted (suggest 3-4, but same number)eliminated from average. (prefer critiques not allowed to force 'fresh' look at photo without influence of others).

 

 

suggest thumbnails, open in own window when clicked. post teams under their team name, with members listed.

 

 

just a thought...

Thank you Christopher. I will remember that.

 

Thanks again for the response.

Somethimes when I attach a photo to a comment, it shows up as a

link. Sometimes it is displayed at the top of my comment. I prefer

the link, but sometimes I can not get it to 'link' vs display. I

browse, open and put in a caption in the caption box. It seems

random as to the result.

 

Any clarification would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Steve

Chubb, before you get the award you'll have to say when in January you sent the bucks in.... I sent in my 68 bucks in January, got tired of waiting and did the paypal thing for 25 bucks, which worked almost immediately. They show me good only for 1 year.

 

I'm gonna meander down to the bank to check out my check. I hope its been cashed cause then I'd be paid up for four years.

typo, Powis, not Powers....sorry Daniel

I think it is a good tool to know who rates what rate for the reason mentioned above by Daniel Powers. Understanding the perspective and experience of the rater lends the possibility of insight. A 3/3 from person 'A' can carry different meaning then person 'B'.

 

To trade that off so that those who rate feel safe from those they rated is a value judgement as to whose concerns the business wants most to respond. That judgement has been made. It is the same judgement that I would make as the business.

 

As an individual, I'd prefer the other way.

One answer is that when a thumbnail is shown on the newest critique requests' page, that thumbnail can be opened in a new window and rated. Once the photo reaches the 'list' page, there rating is disabled.

Cleverly disguised as non paying (my check was in fact sent 2 weeks ago but i know checks take forever), i found this thread informative. These last 3 weeks of browsing some, rating some, commenting some,and posting some (2) pics has confirmed my suspicion that,yes, the 68 bucks for 3 years was going to help my photographic skills.

I have received one comment. A nice fellow helpfully pointed out feeling in a picture that i had taken for geometry and light. I will recognize the emotion more readily in the future.

I have received a total of 15 ratings on the 2 pics both from subscribers and non subsribers alike. I have rate 18 pics, commented on 6 or so. I no longer rate without comment.

What i would find helpful are the two following changes:

1. attach names to ratings.

I understand the concern over revenge ratings and the "TRP" issues, and the math of eliminating low and limiting high ratings, but I beleive that the value gained by the poster from being able to view the works of a rater as insight for the rating given outweigh those concerns.

2. present the option to see the "lowest rated pictures" by any member in addition to the "highest rated pictures".

This allows the poster to learn from those photos how the rater critically views photos.

My understanding is that photo.net is a place in which learning is emphasized and personal growth encouraged. These two options would aid those goals.

For those good enough to be attacked, my sympathy. If the rater is identified at least then you can publically post a comment on your own picture asking for the 'why' of it from that rater. If there is no response, others will notice its lack of existence.

My newnest has led me to caution on the edge of a bit of positivism when I critique. Dissatisfied with that, I moved to responding to questions asked: to much foreground?...rotate a bit?.... crop?. I am evolving to exploration. Before I rate, I view portfolio. I look for comments. When I find great quality comments in either, I move on unnoticed. No one really benefits from yet another 'great' comment. But for those for whom I feel a kindred spirit because of the 'agony of out of focus', or 'who put that in the background', and the like, I comment from experience. I hope to help clarify the transition from the 'why' a picture was taken to the resultant picture because in the end of things, nothing more matters than the conveyance of 'why'.