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  1. Too bad you didn't try Monhegan a couple of years ago; the

    deer would walk right up to you.

     

    If Swan is anything like Monhegan used to be (before the herd

    was extirpated), you will not have any difficulty finding them.

    In fact, you may trip over one.

     

    The first thing I would do is get the Lyme Disease vacine; I had

    Lyme and it is no fun.

     

    Next bring some "bait" to the island such as apples. Then see what

    happen; expect to see deer at dusk; if you can figure out their

    haunts, you should be able to bait them. Put up your blind the next

    night and wait. On Monhegan a blind was not needed; I was able to

    feed the deer by hand and take snapshots with a cheesy instamatic

    style camera. No need for telephotos, in this case, anyway,

    but bring the big glass for the migrating warblers in August. Stalking them is a DIFFERENT story...

  2. It is only fair to mention that the Fuji TruColor

    Lab in AZ found my slides and sent them back last week.

    Happy. Happy. Joy. Joy. I should also note that the

    person who got my slides annotated one of them [my prized

    Black-throated Green Warbler] as "the best". Eeesh.

    I must say that Fuji was quite supportive during

    this whole ordeal, even to me who pestered them almost every

    week. For future reference, their number [which is NOT on

    their mailers] is (800) 283-3686; ask for the "mailers"

    department.

    Of all the labs that I have brought Velvia to, Fuji is

    as good or better than any of them at about 1/2 the cost.

    However

    they are slow, much slower than Kodachrome processing at

    Qualux, but still worth the wait.

  3. > 2. The claim that "nature photographs must be 'natural'" seems to me

    >to based on the flawed notion that photographs objectively record

    >"reality" (the implication being that digital images are somehow "fake"),

    >when in fact this has never and will never be the case.

     

    I am not saying it is right, but the public thinks there

    is a big difference. To them anything done in the darkroom

    or with filters is OK. Hey, how natural is Black and White

    film? But still this is considered OK by the public.

    Whether you like it or not, the public will always

    consider digital manipulation of nature photos taboo. Just

    ask Art Wolfe; I am sure he had some good rationalizations

    also.

    Another problem I have is that digital manipulation

    is too tempting; first the "photographer" might enhance

    the contrast, maybe that is OK, then the "photographer" might

    add a catchlight to a birds's eye, maybe that is not so good,

    then the photographer will be tempted to change the background,

    well..., and then he/she starts adding Zebras...

     

    <p>

     

    Remember that analog photos can be doctored also; but

    these photos don't do well as "nature" photos.

  4. It is interesting to note all the rationalizations of the

    photographers that would have us believe that digital

    manipulation of nature photos is OK [i suspect that all

    these people have already invested in the hardware / software].

    We are free to rationalize all we want, but the general public

    is not going to put up with it. They want nature photography to be natural, adn that menas no digital manipulation. Period. As

    Sue Hubell says, "I am an analog person in a digital

    world." And so is most of the public; the last thing they want

    in a beautiful, natural scene are computer-generated ersatz images.

    Photographers that disguise digitally altered images

    as natural ones will be ruined when they are discovered. Even

    photographers who admit digital alteration will get in trouble,

    witness Art Wolfe.

    What I cannot understand is how we got in such a mess.

    If I was a pro taking unaltered, unstaged shots to make a

    living, I would be furious with the New Nature Fakers.

  5. > <P>I think a healthy dose of common sense and respect for nature is in order,

    > especially when animals don't have a clear way of communicating back to the

    > photographer. I'd rather err on the side of less intrusion rather than more;

    > most of these animals are pretty defenseless against humans.

     

    This seems reasonable to me.

     

    A few years ago there was

    an article about bird photography in Wild Bird extolling the

    importance of not disturbing nest sites (I will try to dig up the article). With the article was a nice photo of a Magnolia

    Warbler pair at their nest However, if you looked carefully

    at the photo, it *looked like* one of the branches over the

    nest had been cut or broken. It seems to me that a better

    method would be to pin the branch back with a clothespin and

    release the branch after the photo session.

     

    Speaking of passerines, in the current issue of

    _Birder's World_ there is a lovely shot of a Cedar Waxwing.

    However, on close inspection the bird looks a little woozy;

    it is not clasping its perch and its eye is not fully open.

    What is going on? Fermented berries? Maybe the photographer

    caught the bird at an odd momnent.

  6. > <P>Your average Hollywood blockbuster probably has over $50 million budgeted for special effects, a large part of which is computer graphics. The reason to do this with computers is that they are more efficient (especially when dealing with millions of images) than traditional manual image manipulation.

     

    Ah, but that is Sci-Fi. When the public views "Nature

    Photography" they are expecting something "natural". That is

    why Marty Stauffer is ruined and Art Wolfe, if not ruined,

    may have a tough time.

  7. > "wild setting" vs. "man made setting"

    > "real" vs. "manipulated" or "fake"

    >

    > and so on. I have a hard time with people who try to convince me that there is much difference between the "natural world" and the "man made world". Is not man part of nature?

    >

     

    <p>

     

    To me, there is a huge, huge difference between an

    river otter in, say, Baxter State Park, ME, and one in a zoo

    or a game farm. Which one would you rather see in a calendar?

    There is even more difference between a zebra on an

    African grassland and one that is digitally created.

  8. When you buy an antique piece of furniture, how would you feel if

    you found out afterwards that it was a reproduction? Who cares

    how "artistic" the reproduction is? A reproduction is a FAKE,

    especially if you bought it thinking it was real. I suppose that

    one could admire the "artistry" of fakery, but would you rather,

    say, have a real Picasso or a fake?

     

    <p>

     

    In my opinion, and other will differ, image manipulation such as

    Art Wolfe's _Migrations_ and staged wildlife photography, such as

    Marty Stauffer's wildlife films, has discredited and devalued ALL

    nature photography in the public's eye. It may not be right, but

    that is the way things work. The public is not discriminating

    enough to look at the photo credits (if they are there) and say,

    "Hmmm, that is Arthur Morris and he does real photography" or,

    "Hmmm, that is Art Wolfe and he is an 'artist' so his work could

    could have been altered."

     

    <p>

     

    Nope, the public now thinks all nature photography is fake. And

    for good reason; these days almost all glossy canine or fox photos

    are staged in addition to many mammal shots. There is even some

    fakery in song bird photography (captive birds, etc.).

     

    <p>

     

    Instead of putting the time in, spending years in the field

    stalking wild animals, many nature photographers have opted for

    the quick profits and devalued the whole field. Thanks Art and

    Marty.

     

    <p>

     

    It may be too late, but legit nature photographers should insist

    on disclosure on the part of photographers. Art Wolfe is probably

    ruined; I will never have respect for him again, and I doubt the

    public will. I am sure that there are many in denial about this,

    but the fact remains that he will never enjoy the success he did

    before the public realized he was a nature faker.

     

    <p>

     

    It might still be possible for legit photographers to create a

    niche for themselves. Would you rather buy a calendar of birds

    photographed in the zoo or wild birds? Photos of wild animals in

    natural settings that have not been manipulated should sell better

    if they are marked as such. You might say it does not matter to

    you if the photos have been altered or staged, but it sure does to

    the public and NPR.

  9. Fuji swapped my roll of Black-throated Green Warblers

    with someone's shots of seals, whales, and paddling in

    the Pacfic Northwest / Alaska area. If you are looking

    for your seal slides, contact Fuji Trucolor; I sent them back.

    If you have my warblers, please send them to Fuji or me.

    BTW, I have had excellent luck with the TruColor lab up

    until now. They do as good a job with Velvia as anyone locally,

    but at 1/3 the price.

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