Vignetting problem on EF 24-105/f4L IS in Canon EOS Mount Posted October 9, 2005 My understanding of vignetting is that the problem of reducing light from a large field onto a postage-stamp sized piece of film or digital sensor is considerable: the world is big and chips are small, and middle and large-format systems have a much easier task. You can literally see this when moving the front standard on large format lenses up and down and how, as you move the cone of light towards its margins, distortion and light fall-off increase. Second, lenses may be designed to reduce optical distortion and light fall-off at the cost of other qualities. I've worked with lenses in graphic arts darkrooms that created 1:1 negatives that could almost be matched up to their originals -- though the cost was a huge piece of glass and the need for massive lighting and long exposures. I simply would not expect a small format camera to produce the flat field and evenness asked for here, and I assume that lens designers for small cameras are not assuming that either. To make that lovely image of the figures by the bay -- it is a gem! -- even better, I would use a larger format camera, and since the details in the front and off in the distance and exquisite colors of that light are such an important part of it, I'd put it on a tripod, too. I actually don't see the advantage of small format here -- a place the photographer could go back to and find all the essential elements in place with differences in light and passersby that might be seized with each visit to even greater effect. It seems to me that small camera work wins up close and social, where you can pull it out in the middle of a conversation or walking down a street, and where the distortions of that fancy zoom are worth the cost of being able to select the focal length quickly. Not long ago I fiddled with one of them while having coffee in a cafe, and which my companion put in my hands, and without leaving my chair I made a dozen images of the scene across from me that each had their own virtues and interest. I then did what I would normally do with my own 35mm rangefinder with a 35mm lens on it: I had to get up, walk forward and back, left and right, and tilt and turn -- a very different experience and very different kind of image -- not bettor or worse, but different. I left the experience thinking that I'd love to have such a digital camera and zoom: it would help me work in tight places (or when I am too old to move! Ha!) Writing this leads me to think about how I was trained to respect the materials: to experiment and see what kinds of pictures this or that film, lens, format, etc., was happiest doing and then exploit the advantages and avoid the disadvantages. I think I have also learned to choose to follow my nose and shift to equipment that would do the trick. As detail became more and more important to me I shifted to middle format, but when I thought even more detail would be better and started working with large format I realized I was losing the mobility that I had gotten used to; middle format on a tripod you can pick up and carry in an instant, and your small cameras with zooms are, of course, even faster, lend themselves to even quicker snaps, and might even be more fun, too! Enjoy! Bruce Spear ps: Now that I see photo.net inviting me to attach images I'll attach a snap of one of my American students being given instructed in the limitations of American foreign policy and where I think the small digital camera (Canon s50) wins: nobody noticed or even cared that I was snapping away, I had plenty of time to play with the composition, and the optical distortions and light fall-off seem part of the compostion. I've tried photographing such cafe scenes with middle-format, and as you can imagine, pulling out and firing a Hasselbad is more or less equivalent to firing a cannon in the middle of a church gathering -- an interesting idea, but not that here, where I was fascinated with the interaction and humor of the people, and especially my student: he was listening and learning without giving up too much of his ground, and I think he won a moment of friendship, too. B
Vignetting problem on EF 24-105/f4L IS
in Canon EOS Mount
Posted
My understanding of vignetting is that the problem of reducing light from a large field
onto a postage-stamp sized piece of film or digital sensor is considerable: the world is big
and chips are small, and middle and large-format systems have a much easier task.
You can literally see this when moving the front standard on large format lenses up and
down and how, as you move the cone of light towards its margins, distortion and light
fall-off increase.
Second, lenses may be designed to reduce optical distortion and light fall-off at the cost
of other qualities. I've worked with lenses in graphic arts darkrooms that created 1:1
negatives that could almost be matched up to their originals -- though the cost was a
huge piece of glass and the need for massive lighting and long exposures. I simply would
not expect a small format camera to produce the flat field and evenness asked for here,
and I assume that lens designers for small cameras are not assuming that either.
To make that lovely image of the figures by the bay -- it is a gem! -- even better, I would
use a larger format camera, and since the details in the front and off in the distance and
exquisite colors of that light are such an important part of it, I'd put it on a tripod, too. I
actually don't see the advantage of small format here -- a place the photographer could
go back to and find all the essential elements in place with differences in light and
passersby that might be seized with each visit to even greater effect.
It seems to me that small camera work wins up close and social, where you can pull it out
in the middle of a conversation or walking down a street, and where the distortions of that
fancy zoom are worth the cost of being able to select the focal length quickly.
Not long ago I fiddled with one of them while having coffee in a cafe, and which my
companion put in my hands, and without leaving my chair I made a dozen images of the
scene across from me that each had their own virtues and interest. I then did what I would
normally do with my own 35mm rangefinder with a 35mm lens on it: I had to get up, walk
forward and back, left and right, and tilt and turn -- a very different experience and very
different kind of image -- not bettor or worse, but different. I left the experience thinking
that I'd love to have such a digital camera and zoom: it would help me work in tight places
(or when I am too old to move! Ha!)
Writing this leads me to think about how I was trained to respect the materials: to
experiment and see what kinds of pictures this or that film, lens, format, etc., was
happiest doing and then exploit the advantages and avoid the disadvantages. I think I
have also learned to choose to follow my nose and shift to equipment that would do the
trick. As detail became more and more important to me I shifted to middle format, but
when I thought even more detail would be better and started working with large format I
realized I was losing the mobility that I had gotten used to; middle format on a tripod you
can pick up and carry in an instant, and your small cameras with zooms are, of course,
even faster, lend themselves to even quicker snaps, and might even be more fun, too!
Enjoy!
Bruce Spear
ps: Now that I see photo.net inviting me to attach images I'll attach a snap of
one of my American students being given instructed in the limitations of American foreign
policy and where I think the small digital camera (Canon s50) wins: nobody noticed or
even cared that I was snapping away, I had plenty of time to play with the composition,
and the optical distortions and light fall-off seem part of the compostion. I've tried
photographing such cafe scenes with middle-format, and as you can imagine, pulling out
and firing a Hasselbad is more or less equivalent to firing a cannon in the middle of a
church gathering -- an interesting idea, but not that here, where I was fascinated with the
interaction and humor of the people, and especially my student: he was listening and
learning without giving up too much of his ground, and I think he won a moment of
friendship, too. B