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<p>Yup, Yankee tank. I will get a better one I guess :) I have been using this for a couple years now.. And it is a bit quirky, the top lifts up when you are filling it up... <br>

I am also suspecting the film holders - they are pretty old. The NEW NEW ones are super expensive though. </p>

Hi,

 

It wasnt too hazy, pretty clear actually.

 

These blotches also show up on other shots that i have been making with this set up. Not just this one shot.

<p>I am sorry, I was not clear on what I was referring to. <br>

The bottom part of the image (that looks like motion blur) was intentional front (lens board) movement. <br>

The top is the problem I want to solve, the light blotches (or ghosting?)... <br>

I have ruled out the development error part because the film goes into the tank with its short sides on top and the bottom. And I have plenty of chemistry to fill the tank. <br>

Robert, it was not handheld, I was on a tripod and I had the front movement tilted forward all the way. <br>

Thank you all for your help, sorry for not being clear on my post and causing confusion :)</p>

<p>Hello, <br>

I was wondering if folks with more experience can help me out fix the problem I am having with my set up. <br>

The below photo was taken using a speed graphic pacemaker using an old lisco regal II carrier on ilford FP4 film. <br>

The ghosting on top of the image is bothersome and is present in most of the other photos I have taken with this set up as well. <br>

What do you guys think is causing this?<br>

- film carrier?<br>

- camera bellows leak?<br>

- leak in the tank/while developing?</p>

<p>thanks!</p>

<p>http://www.flickr.com/photos/27366480@N00/5843335160/in/photostream</p>

You gotta ba kidding right? Oh god!

Great article!. thanks for the link, the writer has expressed my relation with the camera so well, i am speechless. Who wrote that article? I couldnt find the authors name..

Thank you everyone for your contribution.. I hope this topic does not turn into a digi vs. film thread. I intended to question something completely different..

 

Well, like the thing RML mentions, the trance you go into, there must be subconscious decisions and things like that you think about when you are taking a picture. Something draws you into the subject and your dream of capturing it onto your medium of choice..Your mind deliberately makes decisions and chases an image. There are a thousand factors involved in what you want to capture and what else to crop out. I am specifically interested in how that decision forms :)

 

I know it is different for all genres of photography, for example a portrait photographer would be interacting more with their model and trying to get them to relax or get in a certain mood, or a still life photographer would be senselessly watching the shadows and reflections and hues.. and so on...

 

The process is pretty similar for different kinds of cameras, be it a range finder, a good ole SLR or a view cam. I mean the actual physical process is *very* different but what is on your mind does not matter much (or does it). And I am putting forth and saying that with the advent of digital photography and the possibility of instant feedback it does change the way we think about a photo, the whole process leading up to the moment of capture is different and it has revolutionized my approach to shooting..

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RML,

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You bring up a good point. But, you also listed exactly what you think of before you take a picture. If you want to capture the beauty of the lights for example you instantly think about how it would look once the final image is printed, then you go back to chose a place to stand and a camera angle. Then you decide if you want to glorify (as in the case of an object posessing a sense of speed or power) the object or if you want to melancholize (sp?) it. You want to make the image as powerful as you can and tie it with your initial impression of the scene. You want to capture your impression of the scene as accurately as possible on film.

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There is instantly a creative process that starts to flow in a photographers mind once the decision to take a picture is established (or maybe long before...). You tie the scene with a theme you have in mind and go after it, start finding ways (apertures, shutter speeds, camera angles, any special effects -lets say factors-) that will enhance the communication of your final image and convey the original scene to the audience..

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It was written by (no name given) an editor in National Geographic that a photographer sketches a theme along the way. They take pictures of parts that lead to an ultimate image (i dont know if i believe in the "ultimate image"). It is briefly mentioned in their photographers FAQ on their website. I wonder if I can find more information on that subject matter in literary publications.. hmm..

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Here is the <a href="http://www.nationalgeographic.com/photography/qanda/index.html#top">link</a>

Thanks for your contribution John,

 

But I am having trouble understanding what you mean.. Are you saying that since it is too easy to take photos with a digital camera and there is nothing involved in seeing the final product; you find that digital photogtaphers are not putting in too much attention to what they shoot?

 

This is one of the factors that might lead to a cultural erosion you would think? Photographs will lose value as there will be too much supply and people will not be interested in them as they are all around and easily achievable?..

 

hmm..

I know a lot of great texts about this subject exists, especially by

Cartier-Bresson and his theories of the decisive moment.

 

How do we decide what we are going to shoot and what do we imagine

the outcome to be? How is the pre-visualized image relate to the

captured image?

 

There is an ongoing process of pre-visualizing, snapping and

reviewing in digital photography. Has anyone dealt with this subject

before? I think it is worth exploring what the affects of this

process could bring to photography.

 

I believe that prior to the instant feedback generated by a digital

camera, photography was sort of like sketching blindfolded. You

could visualize what you were going to get, go ahead and carry out

the action but then get no feedback about what had happened. And

there were many tools dedicated to being able to pre-visuzalize more

of the subject, like the zone system and the DOF preview in TTL and

the "flash confirmation" light that lit up after a successfully

exposed flash photograph.

 

I think this instant feedback of digital is not merely a medium or a

new technology but it is a new genre. It is what photography out to

be in the first place. My argument might come on strong but I

specifically mean this for the time that leads up to the exposure

and not the whole process of darkroom and everything else.

 

What do you guys think? Have you ever encountered any text written

on this subject (for digital or "photography as a sketch")

 

thanks..

 

Diz

Very insightful answer from everyone and especially Steve, thank you very much.

 

I am intrigued by your comment about 70mm and bigger format movies. I cannot imagine the DOF you could achieve with such a camera. Would you be so kind to drop some movie names we might be able to experience such equipment? Gracias.

I am investigating the possiblities in setting up a portable studio

that I can take anywhere. I am considering getting a generator and

two powerful monolights (800Ws or 1000Ws) to carry on the back of an

SUV to even the remotest locations. I only need to get a ballpark

figure on how much wattage the lights would need to get from the

generator to work properly.

 

This is only the study stage for this project and I do not have any

monolights at the moment. Any help is appreciated :) thanks..

Is this lens missing a retaining ring? I thought there was supposed to be another piece on the inner side of the lens (lens facing film) to mount it to a lens board?!<div></div>

Thank you all for your much useful information. I found a lot more information about this lens since my original post and learned a lot. It seems like it would be a good project lens to work on. As I mentioned before I want to make a camera around this but I might try the speed graphic route since now I know it has no shutter!.

 

Kelly, do you have any photos that you captured with this lens? I know it is going to be very subjective but I am curious to see the extreme shallow DOF of this lens wide open. Recently I became interested in DOF play and that is the whole reason I am interested in getting this lens. I might try shooting it with BW and also color reversal. Any experience in that field? Any samples? You can private email me if you wish not to occupy too much bandwidth here on photo.net

 

When I first saw it the price seemed unbelievably low for a lens of this speed and now I see that there is a whole cult of photographers using this lens, how cool :)

 

thanks

A seller with very limited knowledge about the lens is selling this

product. I am interested in buying it to use it in a camera I want to

custom make for portraits. Do any of you guys have information about

the image area coverage or the availability of a shutter (if so, what

kiind) on this lens? Is it coated? How sharp is it etc..<br><br>

 

The seller quotes that the lens says: `kodak aero ektar f:2.5 7in

178mm 5x5 er 2,4 1 made in usa by eastman kodak co. rochester

ny.`<br><br>

 

The link is: <a href="http://www.gittigidiyor.com/php/urun.php?

id=358817">Turkish Ebay</a><br><br>

 

I did an extensive search on Kodak ektar lenses but I was only able

to get some clashing information from old newsgroup messages. It

seems like the ER designation means the lens was manufactured in

1945, but is there anything else? Thanks.<br><br>

I have a Phase One back on my Hasselblad. I see that there is a huge

difference in Chromatic Aberrations (sp?) between film and digital

images. Is there an optical/technical explanation for this? I am not

limited to a certain lens or a certain film, this has been going on

for a while and I am just wondering the systematic reason behind this.

 

Thanks

Thank you all friends :)

 

I live in Turkey and it would be very hard for me to get film from the US. Even the 5x7 was a far stretch and 13x18 would be absolutely impossible. I thank all of you who has contributed to this thread, you all are a great source for answers!.

I am wondering about the availability of 13 x 18 film. I am

interested in acquiring an old antique camera that supposedly uses

film of this sort. Can I use 5 x 7 film in this? Or is this format

extinct? I enjoy getting old cameras and working on them without

altering their originality and keeping them in a working condition

and occasionally taking pictures with them.

 

If there is still 13 x 18 film available, can anyone put up a list

of all the emulsions? :)

 

thank you.

Dear friends,

 

This is already becoming very helpful. Thanks for your comments..

 

I have started doing an outline for the courses. I need to have 6 courses to cover 2 semesters and a total of 18 hours a week. That is about 500+ hours of digital photography in one year!.

 

I figured I would breakdown my ideas into two basic chapters as `pre-exposure` and `post-exposure`.

 

I remember some extremely unique approaches we followed when I attended my first photo class in college. We taped the viewfinder of our cameras and we were sent on a trip around the campus. Two hours later we cameback with an exposed roll of film and we had our first lesson in developing.

 

Then came the mechanics of the camera (of which we clearly knew very little about) and the DOF and the ISO and the EVs and...

 

But with the automation of todays digital cameras (and most of the students will have a powershot or cybershot or something of that sort) it is very hard to demonstrate the basics to the students. I mean, there is almost infinite DOF for those little sensors. And diffraction limits their aperturees to F8 in most cases. You cant pull apart a prontor shutter and demonstrate how it works, you cant take out the lens of an slr and show the mirrorbox or the pentaprizm..

 

I mean digital is a wonderful tool because it gives you instantaneous feedback but it has also taken away some aspects of photography that I believe are important in learning the big picture (pun intended :).

 

So here I am trying to adapt my knowledge photography so that the new generation of only-digital kids can experience it for themselves and hopefully find a passion to pursue it further...

I studied photography in college when black and white film was the

only medium taught. I had great joy in learning and went off to

venture into the art even after I was finished studying. It was

about 4-5 years ago but all we did in the sake of digital

photography was to learn the basics of photoshop.

 

Since I graduated from college, I experimented with numerous media

and trends. I must have captured somebodys attention that the dean

of a local college approached me with an idea of setting up a

digital photography certificate program and wants me to setup a

course schedule and teach a couple courses.

 

I was taught photography when everything was different and the

instructors used some techniques that were very effective at the

time. But now, everything is a lot more different with `auto-

everything` digital cameras and I would like to get input from all

of you who might have an idea or two about what could be interesting

to a digital photography student.

 

These students will all have at least a bachelors degree in a

different field and they will most likely do photography as a hobby

or to document products/buildings etc.

 

I would appreciate all comments. Thank you all in advance.

Thank you for the link, but I am afraid it doesnt work :(

 

Do you have the pdf file saved?. Any chance you can email it to me?

Thanks for the help..

 

But, I am at a location where I cannot get a book right now. I borrowed the camera from a friend and need to lookc up some of the functions. Is there anywhere on the internet that will have a manual? Or maybe even a brief overview of the buttons and the functions? :)

 

thanks

Any idea where I can find it on the net? I borrowed this camera from

a friend of mine and I am having a hard time figuring out the

operation.

 

thanks

It looks like you got into a tough job if you do not know much about photography. I have had the experience of shooting from a plane a couple of times for skydiving and here are some of the suggestions I will give you.

 

- First of all you are better off if you use shorter focal length instead of zooming in all the way, since the vibration of the fuselage is going to drive you crazy and it will be impossible to get anything sharp above a normal lens focal length.

 

- If you have manual fcosu override on your camera, try and set your focusing distance to infinity or the longest distance and keep it there. This will spare you the time for the camera to hunt for focus with all the vibration.

 

- You will need to get the highest shutter speed you can get without sacrificing quality. Try putting your camera in `sports` mode and by all means avoid using the `landscape` mode for this will give you a very slow shutter speed.

 

- Try to take as many pictures as you can because the chances are you are going to have a lot of throw aways. If it is possible avoid shooting from behind a glass and get your camera an unobstructed view of the subject you are shooting. Another way to overcome this would be to get a polarizing filter which would greatly improve the look of foliage and cut through any reflections on the windshield. But a polarizer is likely to slow down your valuable exposure times.

 

- Getting a hood for your camera will be a great idea if you have access to one because you are more likely to encounter lens flare because a clear view of the sun is more likely to reflect off of somewhere.

 

Last but not least, enjoy the flight and be safe :)

I would take a wild guess and open up the battery compartment and see if your batteries are leaking. With the EOS3 body being all polycarbonate and all, and you mentioning `white rust` I am inclined to think it is the battery. If stored in a very humid environment (such as fla) the battery have a tendency to leak even before they are fully discharged. Let us know..