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Dear Glenn Travis, RA,

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I've read your thesis and your arrogant attack on other

photographers. Now, could you please describe, precisely, to

the assembled readers here, how your orchestra picture COULD

NOT have been made with a digital camera?

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A camera (and its installed recording medium) is a device for

recording the light reflected off surfaces. While there are quality

differences in the "capture" afforded by film and an electronic

CCD, both devices are simply recording reflected light.

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What do recording media have to do with "making" or "taking"

photographs?

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And what's with the attitude?

This is surprising and very interesting. Did Mr. Erwin Puts say

how well the 50mm Heliar lens was likely to work on a Konica

Hexar RF camera? I am thinking about buyinhg a Hexar RF and

wonder if the combination would be awesome?

That's a nice looking Rolleiflex in that picture. Is that a 3.5E or

3.5F? It doesn't look like it has a meter, but I guess either one

could come that way.

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Sorry, but I am a little confuse by Jeff Spirer's post. What is

Fireside Theatre? Is this an American show? Are you saying

that David Casman is an American celebrity Leica user? I would

be happy to know I read the same Leica forum used by a TV or

movie celebrity!

Mr. Tony Rowlett, I didn't mean to say that to own Leica you have

to be rich. I own a Leica and a lens, I'm very proud, and I'm not

rich person. Lucky for you to be rich person who can own

cupboards full of Leica cameras and lenses, like so many who

post here, at least that's how they talk.

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I don't think I understand what Kirk Tuck said about a "wiley

freinds tweaking me from behind an alias." What does this

mean? I didn't try to insult Kirk Tuck. I now understand that his

macro close up set up with tape and clamps, etc., was clever not

cheap and desperate. Bravo!

Rank=Beginner. OK. Well I'm not beginner either. I understand

the process and understand idea of right tools for job. I'm sorry

to hear that Kirk cannot afford high-tech gear and does not live

glamour lifestyle. I'm sure he deserves both. :-) Too bad

photography job doesn't pay well. Maybe it's a better enjoyment

(?) for most people than job. People on this list earn big at other

jobs to buy Leica?

"That's how you young kids learn stuff. I'm glad to see rank

beginners with such curiosity."

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Rank? Maybe my English is not so good, but I think this is

insult? Rank means "smells bad, rotten" I think. Why you insult

me when I'm asking questions?

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No, I'm no child and no, I won't introduce myself. Why should I? I

ask questions, I get insults. Maybe you have me confuse with

somebody else?

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I read posts here, I look at pictures. I think many people here

rich show offs. Where are high quality pictures from all this best

quality equipment? Lot of talk.

This joke, right? Hi pay job for big companie, you shoot with

35mm and lens scotch taped to bellows? You shoot this on

Kodak Gold 100 to save more money, too? Come on, this would

be so much more easy to shoot with medium or large format or

even digital. With digital you'd see results instantly and adjust

accordingly. Hand big shots disc, walk with check. You're a

smart guy, I think. Why would you make extra work for yourself

just to brag to this group?

PolaPan discontinued? Is this true? Now I'm in a panic. And I'm

furious! More fallout from this damned digital "revolution"

probably. I'm sick of it. All the challenge and creativity is being

flushed down the can to satisfy a bunch of instant-gratification

button pushers. Damn!

The finest film I've ever run through a Leica is PolaPan. Truly

stunning tonality and it processes in minutes on your desktop.

The slides are incredible delicate, however. They get scratched

just from looking at them. Great, great stuff. I'll never stop using

it.

Spend as much time as you can absorbing intricate technical

information. The more you can find about the most precise

methods for developing and printing as well as optical textbooks

and the like, the better -- really learn the "guts" of the

photographic process. I think looking at books of photography is

a waste of time. I have to concur with Andrew Nemeth: most

working photographers aren't worth spit, they're just regurgitating

hackneyed ideas, often in retrograde black and white. The

photographers who get published and exhibited are just being

pimped by some curator or gallery owner for their own nefarious

reasons; rest assured that talent has nothing to do with their

"celebrity." You are the best photographer you will ever meet.

Believe it, live it, make sure to tell anyone who will listen.

"i managed to kill my lasses a few years ago by "cleaning" them

with a microfiber after a party at the beach (ok, i was a bit off...) "

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-- stefan randlkofer (geesbert@yahoo.com), May 12, 2002.

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Jeezus! A bit off? I'd say so! What did you do to the girls with a

microfiber cloth, strangle them? Did you just leave them on the

beach after you killed them? How are you even posting to this

forum? Why aren't you in prison for life?

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First perverts and photography critics, now murderers; this forum

truly is on the road to hell.

"i managed to kill my lasses a few years ago by "cleaning" them

with a microfiber after a party at the beach (ok, i was a bit off...) "

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-- stefan randlkofer (geesbert@yahoo.com), May 12, 2002.

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Jeezus! A bit off? I'd say so! What did you do the girls with a

microfiber cloth, strangle them? Did you just leave them on the

beach after you killed them? How are you even posting to this

forum? Why aren't you in prison for life?

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First perverts and photography critics, now murderers; this forum

truly is on the road to hell.

Dump the M6TTL and get the M7. The M6TTL is passe.

Everyone on the LUG has already traded in their old cameras

and upgraded. I believe that discussions of the M6 and M6TTL

are now being ignored. Makes sense. The M6 really sucked in

comparison to the phenomenal improvements made in the

M6TTL. Same now. Everything about the M7 is better. Ask

anyone.

Leica's tolerances are the most precise in the industry. There's

nothing wrong with your camera or your lenses and you know it.

I'm sure that Dr. Eliot Rosen will say that you're a liar too. If he

won't, I will, because I also want to be an unquestioning Leica

cheerleader.

An M4? A Leica M4? One of the finest cameras the E. Leitz

Wetzlar factory ever made? Dr. Rosen will probably say you're a

liar.

Hey, Bryan, in case you missed it, Dr. Rosen just called you a

liar.

I believe that I was either misunderstood or my words were

taken out of context. English is not my native tongue, so I'm

sorry.

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I tried to say, Kirk, please post your photos of the President of the

United States somewhere where we can view them.

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I admire his brilliance and his resolve in these times of strife and

sadness. I'm sure all of us would feel uplifted by another chance

to see an image of greatness.

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I can't speak for the lefties, the Commies or the haters. There

are one-way flights out of this great land every day. Get on one

and goodbye, you won't be missed.

"I'm still holding on to some George Bush images, just in

case........... "

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Just in case what? In case he does something laudible or

auspicious? Uh huh.

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Those snaps might be worth something if he has another run in

with a pretzel.

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Bottoms up, El Senor Presidente!

>Some companies add more blades to have a better out of

focus (bokeh) in their pictures.

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Now THAT sounds nutty to me. IMO they concentrate on making

them SHARPER. To hell with bokeh.

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Thus another Nikon photographer is born. . . .

Does this dude test other brands as well, for comparison

purposes, or does he adhere to the established Dutch model of

"if it doesn't say Leica, it isn't worth spit"?

What I want know is what did Ernst Haas and Burt Glinn use to

clean their lenses?

"Keith how can you judge a photo on a low res computer

screen.Also depends how it was,or what was used,to scan it."

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How about content and composition? Or can't those be judged

adequately on a low res computer screen either?

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I don't see anything particularly special in the NG photos

referenced.

And we like these photos why?

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They seem fairly mundane to me once you look beyond the

exotic subjects and locale. And they are surprisingly flat,

considering that they were shot on TMZ.

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Worst of all, he cut off those people's feet in the last shot. Totally

unnecessary. A half step back and he would have had it all.