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I've used both.
The lense on the SP is better between 1.7 and 2.8, no difference at
smaller openings.
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Back in 1984-85 the dollar was very strong (almost reaching parity
with the British pound, an opportunity missed, the Brits could have
adopted the dollar as currency, or just tied it 1:1, kind of like the
Panamanian Balboa)<g>.
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Summicron from the 50's??
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Methinks not. The earliest serial numbers are in the 920xxx range,
1951.
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50 Summicron, third version (second rigid version) (11817)
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A coated 7.3 cm Hektor (naturally), usually wide open, but certainly
not coseded down more than one sto por so.
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Does anyone have experience with both 50 Summicron-R verions (German v1 vs Canadian v2).
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Thoughts on differences, signature, quality, etc?
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TIA, Marco
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The 80-200 is the best of a rather sorry lot.
I'd buy two lenses instead, a 100/2.8 and a 200/4, both are sharper
than any you mention, and there is NO COMPARISON with respect to
flare control.
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M3 (>1.0 million) modified to focus to 0.7m (does anyone know who
does this, and at what cost)and 11817 Summicron.
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Idiot proof, yes.
Most useable, no.
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One again a blown opportunity to sell more to a wider audience.
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To let the air out when you collapse it.
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De nada.
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If you like 35mm lenses the Canon L1 (or VL or VI-L) is nice,
particulasrly with the sterling Canon 35/2.
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A 35 Summicron Aspheric would be optimal, albeit pricey...
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Because the CL nearly killed the company the first time around.
Almost all the profit went to Minolta. Leitz sold a ton of CL's
(nearly 65K) but made little. Probably not coincidentally (the fact
that the M5 was viewed negatively by many M users didnt help), M
sales went in the toilet.
The company came >this< close to ending M production right there and
then. But reportedly ELC proposed reviving the M4 (as the M4-2)with
lower cost in construction in Canada. Thusly the line survived.
Without the )ugly duckling, frequently maligned) M4-2 there would
have been no M4-P, no M6, no M7.
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A bargain M would have a lower profit margin than the M7, so unless
they can drum up enough NEW buyers to pay for the additional
production cost and NOT sap M7 sales, no way.
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Erwin's dedication to the scientific method is legendary.
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He used to insist that the Collapsible 5cm Summicron and the first
rigid/Dual range models had the same optical formula. His reasoning?
Something along the lines that Leitz had never shown different cross
sections for the two and never had admitted that they were different.
(When God tells you something it must be true, no need for
investigation)
It was only after several people pointed out to him that they were
clearly physically different, and told him to LOOK at the lenses in
question did he do so, and grudgingly admitted his error. Anyone
interested can check the LUG archives from Late January/early
February 1998.
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I particularly like some of the shots with the old 12.5 cm Hektor,
lovely bokeh!
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A:Horrible bokeh!
That's it, my Summilux is history, Ebay here it comes!
Ive been waiting for an excuse to dump it <g>
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MarcoG
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Here is an interesting site. Some fellow in Japan documenting his young son's life using (primarily) really OLD Leitz lenses on various Leicas.
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http://hp1.cyberstation.ne.jp/ohta2/family/kento/index.html#
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Opinions?
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Out of focus pictures of dishracks posted by individuals of
questionable character.
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How far does the Voigtlander pancake extend beyond the flange?
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The CL has a meter.
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Can't wear cargo pants at the office. The various pre-Aspheric 35
Crons, and 40 Cron-C are just too tall, makes an embarassing lump!
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I know the 35 Elmar is slow, but I've got a frozen stash of PJM
Ektapress Multispeed which is quite nice and fast.
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Has anyone out there actually USED the old 3.5/3.5 Elmar?
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Cannot fully collapse the 5cm Elmar without hitting the meter.
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I've been carrying a Ricoh R1 around as a pocket camera, but am considering using one of my Leicas. The choice basically boils down to a IIIa with 5cm/3.5 Elmar versus a CL with 3.5cm/3.5 Elmar (the 40 Summicron is just too thick (35mm extending beyond flange vs. 16mm for the Elmar, both with caps) for comfort. The Elmar is a noce clear coated postwar version. Of course changing aperture is a pain. Using fast chromogenic film will ease the pain.
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I favor the CL, it's a bit smaller, lighter and I see better at 35mm.
Any comments?
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Make that a Tri-Summilux!
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Alfie-
Great camera for taking out of focus pictures of dishracks...
Agfa Ultra in 120?
in Medium Format
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A few years back I used a wonderful film, Agfa Ultra 50 in both 120
and 35mm.
I know that the 35mm has been replaced by Ultra 100, but cant seem to
find Ultra 100 in 120.
Does anyone know if it is offered in 120?
Failing that, does anyone have a source for it in 120?
Marco