charles_lipton

<p>I think film is still hard to beat. The depth of colors the almost 3d affect. And as one contributor pointed out.... this is a great all steel camera with a great lens. I kick myself in the butt for selling the ones I had. Harvey Keenor (sp) in Manhattan Beach, CA., rebuilt the ones I had and they were perfect...</p>

<p>So now I have a canon 5D + 24-105mm L lens and an awsome panasonic LX 3 which has a Leica lens. Great little camera but it's not film..... So I'll just keep my eyes open for a great used minty condition 35S...</p>

<p>Thanks all for your contributions.. This is fun.. haha</p>

<p>Over 40 years I've owned 2 Rollei 35's ... one black.. one silver. For some stupid reason I sold them. Now I want another. I'm adding to my Minolta Rokkor MD collection (XD11) and want another 35S. I've noticed on eBay that the price of these have skyrocketed and are now considered a classic chique collectible. I wonder what caused this and the drastic price increases?</p>

<p>Chuck</p>

<p>It seems in dpreview that people are complaining about the WB with the ZS3/TZ7. Anyone else experiencing this? I wonder if the TZ7 is that much of an ugrade over the TZ5?</p>

<p>So, does anyone have the ZS3? Opinion?</p>

<p>So, does anyone have the ZS3? Opinion?</p>

<p>Brian</p>

<p>I thought the same thing about the long zooms and slow to focusing but the predecessor tot he ZS3, the TZ5, which has a long room factor got rave reviews and was P&S of the year for '08. Now I can afford to wait until the release of the ZS3, FX48 or the FX580 to see what all the reviews have to say. I'm gearing more towards the longer zoom just because.......</p>

<p>Chuck</p>

<p>Brian....</p>

<p>I looked at the Panny FX580 and you're correct; it's a very nice looking camera. Problem though it won't be available, per B&H's website, until June. I was hoping to have something in May for my VN military reunion. </p>

<p>I guess we'll just have to wait until they are in the stores and lay hands on to see. The question I have is how much will you miss from 125mm to 280mm (ZS3)? 125mm seems ok to me as a pocket travel P&S but 280mm seems more fun. Another nice camera to come from Panasonic soon (?) is the FX37's replacement, the FX48; another 25-125mm lens. Then again the max telephoto on it is 125mm.</p>

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<p>Bill... Sorry but i had to laugh at your response re; no clue. FWIW, I'll probably go with the ZS3. Everything I've read about it's predecessor (TZ5) is excellent and one can only expect the new model to only be better. I will wait however to see what the FX48 (25-125mm) to look like. <br>

It appears the only difference between the ZS3 an FX48 is the focal length; ZS3 - 25-280mm and 25-125mm respectively. So between those two it only matters what focual length at the long end is important to you. But I've always been under the impression the more compressed a focal length the better the quality of image. Don't know if that will be true here or not.</p>

 

<p>Bill...<br>

As far as those differences are concerned that's not really that much even if there are 2 MP difference. I would like to see a side by side comparison of the ZS3 with Samsungs HZ15W not yet released.</p>

<p>Amazon had the ZS3 listed through 17th Street Photo for 1 day and it sold out. Oh well.. so much for the ZS3 (USA - TZ7 elsewhere) being available in the US......and God only knows when the FX37 replacement, the FX48 (USA-- FX40 elsewhere) will be available. <br>

It appears the only difference between the ZS3 an FX48 is the focal length; ZS3 - 25-280mm and 25-125mm respectively. So between those two it only matters what focual length at the long end is important to you. But I've always been under the imprression the more compressed a focal length the better the quality of image. Don't know if that will be true here or not.</p>

 

<p>I'm in the market for a hi end P&S. I currently own a 5D + 24-105mm, am 60 years old and sometimes just don't want to lug around the DSLR. My choices have really boiled down to Panasonic; their ZS3 (TZ7 not yet released but the predecessor to the very popular TZ5). My only issue with either the Leica or Panny is the 25-125mm lens. The ZS3 will pan from 24-300mm.<br>

I see on eBay that a C-Lux 3 can be had for about $450, $50 more than the asking price will be for the new Panny ZS3. My question: Is the Leica worth the money even at $450 over it's Panasonic brother?</p>

<p>I have decided since posting this to go with the P&S. Problem is which one? I love the looks of the Leica C-Lux 3 but it only has a 28-125 or something similar and not in the same telephoto league as the ZS3 or HZ15W. Will just have to wait for them to be released and compared to each other since they are very similar.</p>

<p >I currently own the 5D + 24-105mm. I'm 60 years old and sometimes I just don't feel like lugging the thing around on vacation. I was thinking about an upper end P&S such as the not yet released Panasonic ZS3 or the Samsung HZ15W. I had thought about the G10 but it's almost too big. Then... I thought why not the new Xsi or T1i with the 18-55 kit lens.. it's very light.. about 1 lb. Anyone else have similar thoughts?</p>

<p>Thanks Yakim..... So looks like I'll be in the market for a 17-40mm; I can't afford the 16-35. I believe it will be a compliment to the 24-105mm....</p>

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<p>It appears from those of you who have responded that w/a and not telephoto is the way to go in the Caribbean?</p>

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<p>So.. what most of you are saying is that my 24-105mm won't be wide enough for most of my photographic needs? </p>

 

<p >The wife and I will be taking a Southern/Eastern Carribbean cruise the end of October beginning of November. I am shooting with a 5D and have the 24-105mm and a 135mm f/2L; my ony two lenses. What is recommended for such a cruise? We will be doing land excursions probably on our own taking taxi's etc in ports. Our port of debarkation /embarkation is San Juan,PR, where we'll fy in to a day or two ahead.<br>

Thanks....</p>

EF 200-500 f/4L IS or 200-400mm f/4L IS USM

Steve... I'm shooting with a 5D.

I'm still up in the air still between the two. As I said I"m not really into stalking thru the wilds to photograph wolves, etc., or do BIF so I don't really know how much more advantageous the longer lens would be. I suppose if I really need one for a specific event I could always rent. And as one post pointed out the 70-200mm is half the weight and size of the 1-4L and makes a great travel general purpose lens. Well I guess I'm gearing towards the 70-200mm.....

almost sounds like my travel kit ...5D, 24-105mm and 135mm f/2L. I rarely use the 135mm when I travel but like to have it with me. I dont' have any other primes but probably should for low light interiors etc..... waiting to see what Canon does with your 50mm.

 

Probably will just go with the 70-200mm f/4L IS unless I get a good deal on the 1-4L....

You know I had never considered the 70-200mm f/2.8 non IS. The only reason I was thinking of the f/4 IS is because of the rave reviews about it's images and the extrea 4 stop IS. The non IS f/2.8 version is a bit long in the tooth, no?

I guess I'm a L lens snob.... I don't mind spending a few more bucks to get an L lens.. better build, glass, coatings, weather resistant.. etc..etc.. etc.

You're right.. my math was wrong... I multipled the TC value (1.4X) times 70mm then the 40D crop value (1.6x). The correct figures are 156-448mm f/4-5.6 using that combo.

David.. that post is about the 70-200mm f/2.8L IS.... not the f/4L IS. I realize they are similar but then again.. apples and oranges.