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Hors Competition

 

 

 

 

These are special portfolios that have received so many ratings that

the site has elevated them to "out-of-competition" status.

 

 

 

 

Anna Pagnacco

 

 

 

 

http://www.photo.net/

 

 

 

Even though I am trying to protect my rights in PN and well knowing

that in six weeks all my photos will be deleted from Photonet and I

will never come back,I thank Photonet for this honour.All my work of

an year in PN is shown here.To all photonetters who gave me

suggestions and from whom I learnt and to those who followed my work

until now.

 

I say:

 

 

 

It has been a wonderful adventure.....thank you all!

 

 

Anna Pagnacco

You did the same Brian, posting the mail above....I did not get any request from you to do it, even though you wrote you would have done it before posting....so....

 

I followed your example

 

Anna Pagnacco

Geraldine Allen

Portrait: SP_B&Wsml.jpg

A member of the www.photo.net community since April 16, 2001

 

Biography: My educational background is primarily art based. I studied Art History, Photography, and Graphic Design at Salisbury College way back. I have since had two sons, graduated with a BSc (Hons) in Psychology, and more recently returned to education at Salisbury where I have just completed my finals with a BA (Hons) in Photo Media. ...................................

 

 

 

 

 

Are you a competent lawyer...by chance?

 

 

Until now only mine is a true one and following her suggestions this will be MY LAST COMMENT:

Lawyers will go on.......only them.....

 

 

 

All others are only "personal opinions".....that everyone is free to give....at least on a democratic country and on a polite manner.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anna Pagnacco

This is the letter I got from Mr. Mottershead AFTER he had ALREADY taken away my right to be rated without any previous warning and the reason why I consulted my lawyer.

 

 

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Brian Mottershead" <mottershead@direcway.com>

To: <anny_pa@tin.it>

Cc: "Jeremy Stein" <abuse@photo.net>

Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 3:09 PM

Subject: Your Photos on photo.net

 

 

> Anna,

>

> I have decided to exclude your photos from the photo.net rating system.

> This means that the existing ratings will not be visible on the photo

> page and that people will not be able to add new ratings to the photos.

> Your photos will still be visible in the Gallery, and people will be

> able to add comments only.

>

> The reason that I am taking this step is that while we have no direct

> evidence of abuse on your part, the inclusion of your photos in the

> photo.net rating system seems to give rise to a great deal of abuse and

> controversy. We have therefore concluded that the continued inclusion

> of your photos in the Gallery rating system is not in the best interests

> of photo.net.

>

> Some of the reasons for this are:

>

> (1) The inclusion of your photos in the rating system requires too much

> moderator time. We have frequently had to ban and/or delete ratings

> from user accounts that were clearly created for the purpose of rating

> your photos, usually with very high ratings. There are many other

> accounts which were suspicious which we did not delete. Even with all

> the accounts and ratings that we have deleted, there are still many

> where a very high percentage of the ratings are on your photos, again

> usually 6 and 7 ratings.

>

> (2) You have a large circle of people who seem to rate many of your

> photos very high without a great deal of judgement, in my opinion. I do

> not know why this is so, but it is evident to many other members, and it

> infuriates them, provoking them to engage in quasi-abusive behaviour,

> even though their behaviour on photo.net is not basically abusive. The

> Gallery has divided itself into pro-Anna and anti-Anna camps and this is

> wrecking the Gallery.

>

> (3) You spend a great deal of time attacking and complaining about

> people who give you ratngs lower than you think are warranted or who

> write critical comments on your photos. So many people complain to us

> that you instigate retaliations against them when they rate your photos

> low or write critical comments, that while we have no direct evidence of

> this, we cannot help but believe that it may be true to some degree.

>

> You are welcome to continue posting photos on photo.net and to receive

> comments on these photos. Your own rating and commenting priveleges are

> not changed.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Brian Mottershead

>

>

 

 

 

>

> Anna Pagnacco

>

>

"""To be honest, at this point, I am not sure that it really was from a lawyer, and the person didn't actually say that she was a lawyer. In at least one place in the letter, Anna is referred to as "me", suggesting that Anna had a hand in writing at least part of it herself, and the other person's editing/translation didn't blend Anna's text in very well. Certainly, the letter was not from a person who is very fluent in written English, and even making allowance for that, the language seemed quite disconnected and not very lawyer-like. But perhaps I am underestimating the language problem. If it was indeed from a lawyer, which seems at least possible, I do appreciate the effort taken to send me a letter in English. """

 

 

THIS IS AN ISULT.....I INVITE MR: BRIAN MOTTERSHEAD TO CONSULT THE LAW SOCIETY OF PADUA ITALY

(ORDINE DEGLI AVVOCATI DI PADOVA _ ITALIA ) WHERE MISS MONICA PATTI , MY LAWYER IS REGULARLY ENROLLED.

 

 

 

 

 

Anna Pagnacco

Every personal insult on this page will be added as proof as detrimental and offensive to a PN member ("public defamation" on Internet, there are very severe laws ) if allowed by a site's webmaster.

 

Anna Pagnacco

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THIS IS WHAT IS WRITTEN TODAY JUNE 30 June on my page and what I read if I want to add a new photo to my portfolio

SO.....I ASK TO THIS FORUM.....AM I WRONG IN BELIEVING TO BE A SUBSCRIBER?

 

 

 

 

 

My ICON as PATRON has been showed until today.....

 

 

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How many people in PN have this priviledge due to me for paying not only my quota but EVEN an EXTRA quota some months after my first subscrition?

 

 

Anyway Photonet in the person of Mr. Brian Mottershead has already got copy of my lawyer's letter.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I will do everything to protect my rights both from Italy and USA.

 

 

 

 

Anna Pagnacco

"""And what "severe measures" can you take? Quit the site? Give Brian a bunch of 1s on his photos""

 

 

It is a matter of "discrimination".

 

 

 

 

My lawyers will answer...

 

Anna Pagnacco

I find this discrimination fully illegal, arbitrary and detrimental to a PN member.

 

 

 

 

I will take severe measures to protect my rights.

 

 

 

Anna Pagnacco

Thank you Peter! I start to understand too.Usually the "elves" in the faitytales hide themselves in the woods to play tricks to people....so, I suppose I will never know who they are....never mind! Anna

Thank you Richard.Some further details would be useful.Hoping.....Anna

I read the "PN Elves" chose the photo for the Pow but I have never

known who these "Elves" are.Is it a secret or photonetters may know

their names?How many they are? Are they active Pn members who are

posting their works on the site too?Are they always the same or do

they change?Maybe mine is a silly question and am the only one who

does not know it already.If so, my apologies.......Anna

If this one was the only problem......unfortunately I think we all will have to wait ages before Photonet works fully again. I think it is useless to post images these days.Give up and HOPE!.....Anna

Every day there is a problem on Photo Net lately, it is frustrating.It is not your server .Would like to know what is happening.I have a high speed connection but it takes ages to get the pages and one day yes and one day not "SERVER ERROR "is only what I get.Anna

What a news, Doug! ........I know "Serenity "is still available to all of you ...I disabled it only from my prtfolio and Brian already got news about my decision.So.............Anna

Carl, this is my opinion.....already too much rumour has been done about my works now and in the past.I see my name repeated many times on this debate.....I am used to getting harsh critiques but lately I decided to avoid answering to them but took notice of all suggestions that I will try to follow in the future.It is my choice , my portfolio and my future works, bad or good will speak for me.Regards Anna

Oh, sorry Bas....maybe I am wrong but on your first post you are just referring to one of my images and if I remember well some months ago the" digital war" started just because of one of my artwork posted, "Silver studs" so ,if not completely about me I think this thread and debate is, at least, about digital and altered images that I and some few other people are posting on Pn.....So, I think I am not completely wrong in feeling personally involved ....or not? Anna

Hello to everyone!

 

To make all of you happy. I disabled my composite , taking away that shameful, untasteful crap not worth to be on PN.Is it ok ?So decided the "diva":-)) Am really flattered too many people joined together to discuss about a simple creation I did, having fun.......I agree with all of you that it was not so good but even not the worst one.If people liked my creations whatever reasons they might have, I am not responsible of their comments and ratings.Can you understand it?

Having said this,thanks to everyone for your interest.

 

 

 

Anna

Mr.Mark Ciccariello your comments have been already deleted by PN,many months ago from another forum because were insulting.I see that you have not changed a bit I would like to remind you that on my whole work posted on Photo net NOT EVERYTHIING is digital art.My folder "Some shots" has about 200 photos posted. I invite you also to read carefully what Brian Mottershead wrote above.Think he is the ONLY to be entitled to decide what one must post or not on Photo net.Anna