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<p>Photographers, should we star using "angle of view" as a reference to angle of view, instead of "crop factor", that eventually fewer people will understand.<br>

So, a 45 angle of view lens( diagonal if you want) instead of:<br>

20mm (40mm crop factor of so and so) <br>

so we´ll have a "10 grades"14mm telefoto, or a 45 grades normal vision lens, what about a 18mm 100 grades super wide angle, or a 25 or so grades 85mm f/1.4 full format lens.<br>

would it make sence to newer photographers?</p>

 

XPro1 is a great piece of camera, in my opinion there are too many options that have to be chequed out every time you change the

battery (very often), on the other side, M9 gives you less functions so it becomes more, less is more, the less butoons to select the faster

you can click a picture, so for now the more I do digital photograpy the more I need my film camera back, but it has been important to

know the new technologies so I know what film photography is capable of. Intuitive reactions for a picture is one, a posecion of a negative

is another, prints of silver on paper is another. New digital photography makes some photographers reapreciate old tecnologies. Still keep

the digitals, love to learn using them. But to take pictures I rise my old leica and take the themperature of developer.

Finaly got my m9, great camera, and my m lenses are seeing work now, I was very sorry to see that my 21/3.4 superangulon is practicaly

useless on the M9, except for some b&w ligth fall off trick picture. But the rest of my leica lenses can be use digitaly, from a 50/1.5 TT&H to newest

35/1.4 asph. Since I like working with two bodies and two lenses mainly 21 and 50, or 21 and 35. I needed an extra body, and lens,

another M body and a new 21 were off my budget, but a X Pro1 and 14mm lens could do the trick, and it is working for me so far, still

geting use to change systems, the 14 mm is used like a hiperfocal camera with autofocus, and my m9 and 35 or 50 complete my vision. I

am still working to match color of the two cameras through Ligthroom 4 and can see the ligth out of this tunnel, that has been stop using

film and two m bodies.

<p>Probably you have seen this presentation before, if you haven`t this will explain you about the importance of a monochrome digital sensor for black & white photography.<br>

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Sorry I didn`t find a better way to link it. It is long but very interesting for sure.</p>

<p>Very few M9 out there yet, I read somewhere that old collapsible 90\4 couldn't be collapsed neather.<br>

I don't have a M9 to test, but would love to.<br>

Best wishes for 2010.<br>

Please keep posting M9 images!!!!</p>

If the one picture before the last, is a selfportrait, I can go swimming

Thank you David, here you`ve always had nice subjects to talk about, is great to know friends keep around.

I began using leica m`s in th early 80`s,(m3, and a set of four old lenses) I have never made a dime in photography, but was so worried about digital boom in the early 90's that instead of invest my money (little money), I begun buying m bodies and lenses until 2002 when I broke my credit card buying a 35'lux asph, now, after seven bodies and more than fifteen lenses, I hardly have time to snap a picture, wish I could change some leicas for film or free time, leicas IMOO are not a good investment, maybe in the hands of Tamarkin, not in mine. Saludos

using an external finder like in a rangefinder could make the diference about street shooting, the main problem would be the shoe position in the R1, and fix the lens to the size of the external finder, yes wild, but street photography is usualy wild. Time lag shooting may not be as anoing as using the electronic finder, funny hu!

Rangefinders are vicious!

I own a R1 since a month ago. I bougth it to have a digital option, I didnt want to ge involved in a system that would demand new lenses and stuff to have working system. R1`s given me the freadom to pick this body and do almost everything my clients need (fast quality digital images). Now I can forgot about bringing the Hasselblad system, and figth labs to do what I want. Now I do everything in home, and I think that`s what`s digital is about. I still haven`t take a step into photoshop, but it will be a need soon.

Things that I don`t like about this R1 are shutter time lag and digital finder. I know that it is very fast, but still it is very diferent than working with a Leica M. Arquitecture, product shots, portraits, landscapes are my main interest with this camera, and I`m very happy with it, I would buy it again, I`m actualy planing in buying an extra camera.

get use to the 1.4 look, you can always put some neutral density filters (2X,4X,2X+4X). will help a lot at the moment of tech desitions.Less can be more.

IMO Greatest living photographer: Koudelka

Greatest living photographer icon: Salgado could be

thank?s so much for your fine info, I?m still in Mexico at the moment, but will fly there soon. My idea is, among other things sell some of my older leica lenses, when money gets short in my trip. Also i?m taking some pictures of very old cameras (1880?s), to look for a sell, but i won?t take those cameras with me, just pictures to show.

 

thanks for your good wishes

Hi, any recomendation on where to go in Paris France, to search for

used Leicas or sell.

have we all seen picture of HCB wearing a M4-P? lately...

 

Seems like P?s are raising price

how many of your pictures do you remember could be saved thanks to a better lens?

If your ligthing situations are very odd, you should consider a better lens to achieve more desirable results.

 

Other wise look at those pictures made in the 20?s.

 

Now we can photograph almost any thing, and mostly can be done thanks to new optics.

 

but if yo like having sun on your back...

Very interesting information Andy, adds a lot to know a bit of the facts.

Sorry, It shall read HOMAGE, (tribute).

I remind a picture of him and his son, he seemed like a perfect father, I am so sorry to read this, hope our condolences can reach his family, I propouse on omenage to him in this forum, what do you think?

 

Regards

Some times is hard to give constructive answers, pure gut critisism is easier but doesn?t takes you or anyone very far, and is easy to understand some kind of images are hard to evaluate, specialy when those are not strong ones but used to strength an edition, some photographers (and good ones) are used to the kind of Reader?s Digest easy to understand images, and in my opinion is fine, there is a lot of comerce for that, but personaly find them very boring, even those are all natural and colorful, thinking that a good picture is of something already beautiful, and flush other interesting and in a way profound images that passes in front of us but that we are not capable of seeing, is a pity. I rather enjoy a beautiful scenario and photograph something not so easy to see. Can some one remind me of who said about the work of Robert Frank: "If you don?t like this pictures go and see television", was it Jack Kerouak?

 

and last this time, can someone do some post as Rene is doing but in the Reader?s Digestism way, so every one is happy.

 

P.D. Jonathan, I like "Prage 1" from your portafolio realy an interesting and unique picture.Regards.

Rene, I like this ejercise we are doing at "judging" this pictures. Your idea has been great in my opinion. On the other side questions A;B;C etc.. force us to make statements that are not valid for all of the presented pictures, that is my opinion too.

 

Now to talk about this lonely picture of Depardon, is to isolate it from it?s context in the book, and in my opinion the desired work of the editor was to make this pictures descrive an idea by edition, not merely by single picture meaning. From this point I return to first picture of Pinkhassov where it acording to the second picture represents the face confront of facts and knowledge wile HCB second picture represents the oposite profile of intuition, both represented by color and black and white, a child?s confronting face and a shadow and a cat, hope you?re following, because I?m having a hard time following my self. Next is Gaumy?s juxtaposition of a defocused arc of triumph and it?s showing postals. Kouldelka?s gives a space to "reason" represented by Lenin and his pointing finger to a hopefull horizont, Depardon show us how civilisation represented in rising fumes banish among the sky clouds; and Bruno Barbey sit us in prespective to look the fruit of our efforts. This is how I understand this first six pictures as a single work.

 

I will try to unswer your original questions

 

A)an Editor?s choice

 

B)I don?t know

 

C)you can explain the meaning of any of this pictures with apples or oranges, with the work of Einstein or Plato

 

D) very little.

For many years I thought I had a bigger frame in my M3DS, wich gave me hard time centering it in the full format film carrier of my enlarger, until I changed the 21SA and put it in another body, there was when I begun to see it from a prespective, it was not the body, but what has been explained before.

 

Thank you my Lord.

Thank God ;O)

Thank God you explain it Mike; I was up to call a priest.

When I went to Mexico city to see Koudelka´s largest ever exibition, this picture was the one that most impresed me, an about three by nine feet print, it made me feel the sorrow of a funeral, a trip with no return, the proportion of the sky vs the floating boat enances in my opinion that feeling.

Koudelka´s work can´t be qualified by a single picture, his life dedicated to humanism through photography, has exhivit humanity behind socialism and behind anything else, has put himself before our eyes, has also taken greatest risk in order to remain free from doctrines even free from his own self.

I discovered in that excibition that behind his dramatic pictures exist a simple and a happy man.