dougityb 0 Posted June 21, 2009 Does this picture suggest any kind of story? Does the presence of the window add, or detract from that story? Is the format (1:3) suitable, or would you suggest something more squarish? Does the light on her face look unnatural (over dodged)? Thanks for your opinions. Link to comment
sacha_de_carlo 0 Posted June 21, 2009 I would desaturate the green from the window because it's like a punch in my eyes ! IMHO it does not belong here with the other warm tones... Everything else: excellent! Link to comment
dougityb 0 Posted June 21, 2009 Sacha, that's an interesting suggestion that I didn't think of. I'll give it a try. In other shots at this location the window works well, but the emotional content of those begins at a different place, so I can see how it might not work here. Link to comment
dougityb 0 Posted June 21, 2009 wow, big difference. I desaturated it about 25 % and also darkened it a tad. thanks Sacha. Link to comment
dougityb 0 Posted June 21, 2009 I think I could probably still do better, probably by cropping differently. Link to comment
sacha_de_carlo 0 Posted June 21, 2009 I tried to change the color to something warmer then remove saturation and increase the lightness a touch... Link to comment
dougityb 0 Posted June 22, 2009 Thanks Bob, Sacha, I like the direction with the color that you've done there, but it's way too light, don't you think? Link to comment
jeff.grant 0 Posted June 22, 2009 I agree that the outside doesn't work as you started out. It looks odd. Is that the JPG'ing only? I prefer the light on the model in the original but like the way the rest of it has gone. There's also a mark on the chair under her arm that needs to be fixed. To me, the sleeping shot is theh standout so far. Are there more? Link to comment
dougityb 0 Posted June 22, 2009 "Is that the JPG'ing only?" --Depends on what you mean by "odd." The view outside contained some random bright elements, which I cloned out (or attempted to), and the jpg is of sufficient quality, so if you're objecting to it, it's either because my cloning work was sub-standard, or the content of the view just isn't going to work no matter how I try to fix it. It could be a combination of both over cloning and poor content. Fixing that spot on the chair shouldn't be a problem. It looks like brushed velvet. The shot you didn't like, the one without the story, is the last of this combination of room/garment. She changed her clothes after this and we tried some other stuff, so I will be working on those over the next few days, as I get opportunity. Thanks Jeff. Link to comment
aarkp 2 Posted June 22, 2009 brushed velvet! that explains why the tapestry looks dirty and patchy at some places... desaturation of the green is obviously desirable, to what extent... up to you i wonder why she's leaning forward... Link to comment
dougityb 0 Posted June 22, 2009 "i wonder why she's leaning forward..." do you think she looks bad that way? I like your crop, by the way. Link to comment
mg 0 Posted June 24, 2009 Looks very posed... I'd say that's ok but not very alive, and for something so posed, I'd prefer studio lighting to control better the impact and emphasis of her expression - which would stand out better with darker surroundings. So, it's nice, but not my favorite in this series. Link to comment
dougityb 0 Posted June 25, 2009 Marc, you should have seen me struggling with the studio lights, trying to balance the exterior with something natural looking from the little strobe I was using. I had such a difficult time getting it balanced that I eventually just use the strobe modeling light as a fill. I have forgotten so much about working with strobes, and with digital, it's somehow true that the equipment made years ago, which is what I have, is too powerful for digital. Anyway, maybe so, maybe not, but I was still all thumbs and perspiration shooting these. Link to comment
mg 0 Posted June 25, 2009 "it's somehow true that the equipment made years ago, which is what I have, is too powerful for digital." Really, no. You must stop believing this, in my opinion... Try building a cone, a snoot with aluminium foil - if you have no snoot, and add tracing paper at the end of it, and you'll now have a very directional light that won't be too powerful, but powerful enough to "kill" daylight if you want too... Trying to mix daylight and strobes - WELL - requires a pretty good equipment, or at least you'd need to be very used to your equipment. It's often easier to redo the light entirely and to leave daylight out... Sometimes, not always, and not for subtle and gentle lighting... But to me, a strong expression like this one is difficult to emphasize with such overall lighting... Personal taste only, but I'd have imagine something a bit more dramatic here... Regards. Link to comment
dougityb 0 Posted June 26, 2009 In the old days....I could do it, and I have no money, so I will have to re-acquaint myself with those battered and dented, but still working strobes. Thanks Marc. Link to comment
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