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Another scene from "Post Marta" ( see previous preface) with double connotation of human relations..

Dancer : Sivan Gutholtz. Choreographers: Niv Sheinfeld and Oren Laor.

I upload one more scene of this section to enlarge my personal interpretation.

 

Thanks for viewing, and your impressions.

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Estupenda composicion e interesante vision,de uno de los aspectos de las relaciones humanas,con una magnifica puesta en escena.

 

Un cordial saludo -Tolo.

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I like the way you differences foreground of the background with the focus, but given the perspective from which this photo is taken, to look at it gives me the feeling that the dancer is above the box, probably this will be only a feeling of mine. A greeting.
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Excellent and quite original vertical composition, Pnina. The colors, scene and DOF are great. The photograph with the two dancers is a high quality image. Very good work! Congrats!
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This is really nice, Pnina. The eyes flow naturally from the objects of child play to the adult dancer. The colors are surprisingly true and vibrant in such low lighting. The selective DOF suggests you manually focused, which must nave been difficult under the visibility conditions. I'm urious as to how you made this image.
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This one works well for me on a visual level and I sense your seeing here more than thinking (which I like). The color, composition, brightness, and whimsy stand out to me. It immediately hits my senses and I find myself not concerned with connotation or message, just as if I were immersed in enjoying the dance myself. You captured my eye.
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I fear your shot is even better than the staging. One of my music pupils, David Bennent (Die Blechtrommel/Günter Grass) then and now narrated about the strange ideas of directors :-))
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The toys are effectively "blocked" from the legs giving a sense of further distance from the blurred legs in the background. It hints at lost innocence.
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Oscar , thanks for your visit and comment .

 

Tony, Janusz and Tolo , appreciate your feedback.

 

Pep, it is the play and illusion of light that created your feelings

 

Jim and Alberto, thanks for your feedback.

 

David, thanks for looking and commenting on both of them.

 

Emmanuel,I work with low light most of the time, and I have developed my technic to overcome the strong stage lights.I work with high Iso, no flash,underexposure as much as I can ( 2 stops in my camera).Thanks for asking.

 

Fred, my impressions are always visual as well as choreography in general.If I don't connect to it in my own way,and interpret it in my own feeling,I will not be able to photo it ,and there are dances that I saw, and did not connect to.....I always take only some points in a dance that are"talking" to me, touching me visualy , or otherwise.I'm glad it "captured your eye" ;-))

 

Daily thanks, Inreresting idea..

 

Adan, thanks, lost innocence is a good impression,and definition of yours.

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"and interpret it in my own feeling,I will not be able to photo it"

 

You never photograph something without first interpreting it to yourself? Doesn't that hold you back from getting a lot of momentary shots?

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Feeling is the key word " catching my eye" is a good definition,it is not always explained/thought about at the moment, it is more a gut feeling, as I work fast, but when some scene touches me, I will try to describe it as a "touching wand "...;-)), sometime I know immediatly that it is what I felt for, sometime it will come later, while observing a photo, some will not work as I thought....

 

I wonder how you feel a scene that you see and want to photo,like the "golden gate garden" like your last "untitled"? Please explain,

I think that the mechanism we work with, is very personal, and each individual has his own way. I think we touched it when we talked about "letting go", but it will be interesting to go deeper in trying some more clarification. what do you think?

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I always liked playing " hide & seek " as a child.

As spectators, it is crystal clear to us where the others are hiding but to the girl seeking, the solution is still somewhat fuzzy.

 

The placement of the elements withing the frame is visually pleasing and the strong light and high contrast of the toys as compared to the soft light and blur of the figure makes for a well defined sense of spacial relation as well as depth particularly considering how amorphous the surroundings are. This is fun to look at, which if I understood Fred's comment is in line with his sentiments.

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I think Gordon says it well: it's fun to look at.

One can "interpret" your photo, for sure, the red figure lying on its side, the yellow one standing, the woman in the background. But I don't feel the need. I find it visually stimulating, for many of the reasons that both Gordon and I have stated, the relationships in space, the color, the focus, etc. It feels like a delightfully staged piece that you've captured and conveyed from an enhancing perspective. It's not a photo that I, as viewer, approach with deep thoughts or interpretations.

The process of untitled-3 is easier to describe than my feelings at the time. I saw Josh sitting there taking a break. I knew I had to be quick because of the changing light and the fact that a cigarette only lasts so long. I was glad there were cars passing by. So I was rushing and thinking about ISO 1600 because of the light. What I can say about feelings is that the mood of Josh and the street seemed like it would photograph well. I took a couple of shots and then some people walked by. That seemed great, so I waited for the next person to walk by and took the shot you see. Although it was pre-dusk, I saw the photo in my mind as darker and duskier. As a matter of fact, the next day when I brought it from the camera to the computer for processing, I was surprised because I had remembered it being darker and more like dusk. So that's how I post-processed it. Not because dusk meant anything. Just because that's how it looked in my mind's eye and I remembered it feeling like a dusk moment.

I'm aware that we will now look at that photo and lots of things will come to mind, and they should. And all those things go into the mix, but they don't seem to dominate my relationship to the photo. Those themes and observations seem to come later, as a look back or something.

There are certain of my shots, gene and stuart, for example, that a lot more thought went into. I still like those photos a lot, and there was some gut involved, but they were much more cerebral and consciously aimed at interpretation and thematic meaning.

I'm sort of enjoying playing around with how I approach different photos and what parts of me get used in each one.

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Thanks for your impressions and explanations.

 

Gord, I try to understand the analogy of " hide and seek", I understand the hide, less than the seek, only if you think about what you are seeking here....aside from the visual component....;-)) which Imo is not only visual, but it is me.....

 

 

Fred as you explain your approach to your last work ,I see it a bit as my approach to this one, but both can be read /impressed by the viewer in a different way.. In the dance there are "sentences of movements," that are changing very fast ,this one was not( in the dance) as you see it now. The decision to cut and compose a fraction of a movement ,without the upper part of the dancer,and to use only the toys and her lower part , is a gut decision that was taken on the spot ( not done later on ,in post processing) with the fast passing thought of the difference between the passing time between both ( toys and adulthood).

 

There is a similarity, as I see it, how you describe the urge to photo the scene of "untitled 3", ("So I was rushing and thinking about ISO 1600 because of the light.") The difference is that when I photo a dance on stage, I'm ready with my camera, waiting for the right moment that touches me, as you saw Josh seating and thought it will be a good composition as long as he is smoking...., and than you waited to see more passers by... So you already have a thought and have some plans about the composition, and connected with gut feeling to the scene unfolding before your eyes..

 

Of course there are more approaches to different kinds of photos, some will be more cerebral in the beginning and some more visual, but both these two components Imo, are a part of, either before or after....

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Most interesting image. I'm not sure why I find myself wondering how it would have changed if the focus had been the dancer instead of the foreground objects. Would that alter the feel and interpretations. I'm not advocating that, just wondering for some reason. Those colorful objects against the rich black background are very strong visually. I love Gord's thoughts comparing it in some way to hide and seek.
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As you suggest, the photographer has created what he or she wants whether with conscious or unconscious decisions, whether cerebrally induced or coming from the gut. For me, some of those photographs will seem to be more about the photographer than others, no matter what went into them. Some will seem to have great meaning, others will just strike me visually. For me, analyzing meanings can be a danger and a distraction at times as well as something very worthwhile at other times. As photographers, we are all using the same medium so I agree with you that there will naturally be overlap in our methodology. Yet, I still think we may each have very different approaches. And, as we have different approaches to taking photos, so we have different approaches to looking at them.
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This is indeed fun to look at. It has an instant visual appeal. The colours are childlike and catchy, especially the dress in green -- it catches my eye and pulls me into the background nicely.

 

I have visited this several times. The first few occasions ended with me still feeling that this was fun and playful.

 

I do now find this a little sadder. The woman seems restrained in her pose. She seems unable/unwilling to move closure. I think it is the tightly held together legs that make her seem uncomfortable in her pose.

 

This makes me think more about these toys hiding behind the black box -- clearly out of the sight of the woman in the background.

 

I can't help but think of this whole scene as depicting childhood lost or childhood forgotten.

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David, it is a possibility, but it may change/ or not , the meaning I thought about, I think that some of our photos can be taken to other directions and it is always interesting to think about when offered. But each of us has his way of thinking and expressing his work accordingly, and interpretation will be/or not different as well.;-))Thanks Dave

 

 

 

Fred, for me, ( and I agree with you) every photo if it touches me or not, if it is interesting or not, is about the photographer himself. The way he perceive the world and express it in his work, be it fine arts, street, landscapes, portraits etc. The meaning is not only what the photographer puts into them,but as well the way the viewer will relate and interpret them, it is always Imo a bilateral way. That's why we upload photos and ask for critique( and I don't think rating, I think real evaluations...;-))

 

For me analyzing, has the meaning of what I feel and perceive in a photo , not necessarily what the photographer thoughts or intention was( like your interpretation of this one). sometime my thoughts will correspond to his, and some time a good analysis will reveal to him/her another new detailed dimension of looking at his own work. That's why I like looking at works of others, as I think it gives me a deeper understanding of the medium and different approaches to life and photography, widely expressed . I like as well to think about, when real comments are given to my work.

It is also great when a dialogue is developing ( like this one, and others), question are asked about directions, thoughts, explanations . I see it as fruitful and enriching!

 

Ian, thanks for stopping by and evaluating this one, because it is very compatible to my reaction and flash of thoughts, seeing the scene on stage, with the group and full dancer. Isolating the toys, cutting the upper part of the dancer leaving only her legs and skirt in a distance behind , symbolized for me the end of relations( more as the timing) between childhood and adulthood, so lost childhood as you felt it is very accurate to my feelings. I'm glad as well that you liked the visual appeal ,which I think is important as well, in order to lead (" tempt") the viewers to enter deeper.

 

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