pnital 36 Posted July 1, 2008 What is the srory? each viewer will have his own.... ( mother in law, story?....;-)) Dima is the actor again. Thanks for your story or thoughts. Link to comment
glaucodattini 0 Posted July 1, 2008 Disturbing and funny at the same time. Very good capture,Pnina. My 7/7 anon. Glauco Link to comment
Anabela Sequeira 0 Posted July 2, 2008 Always important to see beyond an image and make it something else,you have done it! Link to comment
gordonjb 10,860 Posted July 2, 2008 Please do not get me started on mother-in-law stories. I could go on for days. The bane of my life. This guys reaction just about sums up my usual reaction :-) Link to comment
jeffl7 0 Posted July 2, 2008 If it's not one thing, it's your mother...or hers... Having parents taught me to play dirty. Having in-laws has taught me to play nice. I can only hope that I'm as colorful and frustrating a character as my parents/in-laws to provide endless stories at holiday parties. I love the face! Link to comment
Donna Stavis 0 Posted July 2, 2008 Oh Pnina, this is one successful Yiddishe mama! They appear mild mannered and sympathetic, but their power is great. This reminds me of Sholem Aleichem's character Gitl Purishkevitsh, a seller of Wisotsky Tea, who, in 1910, travelled alone from her distant village in the Pale of Settlement to the Duma in the Russian capital, Moscow, in order to take on the Parliment, in the name of her son, who was unfairly being conscripted into a twenty-five year stint in the army; and of another Sholem Aleichem character Yenta, a simple poultry saleswoman, starving and working her fingers to the bone, arguing and plunging verbal darts into her neighbor and her neighbor's healthy children, as Yenta attempted to battle the disease consumption, which earlier had snatched her husband and currently had set its sights on young, scholarly David, her Kaddish, her only son. She talked, and talked, and talked, and talked to her confidant, the rabbi, so long and with such non-stop circular circumlocuation--in an effort to avoid speaking the unmentionable, the inevitable, her son's impending death-- that before she was done the rabbi dropped away into a dead faint. Yiddishe mamas must be the original source materials of Superman, who was invented by two Jewish high school students in Ohio, who must have been intimately familar the prototypes, and their prototypes' weapons are Klennex, chicken soup, a ready tongue, and an iron will. But once in a while, they might drive a family member, or anyone in their way, into such a sorry state as this poor chap above. They're mighty, but you gotta love 'em! His face-her posture, Wonderful pic Link to comment
pnital 36 Posted July 2, 2008 Glauco, you are right it is both, thanks for your comments ! Anabela,it is my interpretation to the scene in a visual theatre that don't have words in it....Thanks Gord, sorry that it reminded you such a hard part of your life, I hope, and I know that you have many better part as well ;-)) Jeff, I think that a mother- in- law, is a general world phenomenon, I read a book about that role in the chinese society, a terrible one.....especially toward young brides.....well, thanks to the known fact that in all generalisation there are the exceptionals....Thanks for an interesting comment Donna, Wow, you are better in Sholem Aleichem Yiddish literature than I'm... so thanks for depicting the Jewish Mama ( off topic, it reminds me the Chelms stories another Jewish folklor....) in his creation, I remember Yenta though, reading it 1000 years ago.... but as I wrote to Jeff, I think that it is a world type of mothers, Jewish/Yiddish literature has the skills to clothe the phenomen with a great , sometimes grotesque sense of humor. I enjoyed reading your comment, and all the others . I will upload the second version of it with the daughter/wife side ;-))..... it is my interpretation of the scenes, not the meaning of the real show.... ( it is a sad day today with a terrible terror act in Jerusalem) Link to comment
Donna Stavis 0 Posted July 2, 2008 Pnina, I just read about the terrorist attack. So today, instead of a rocket or a bomb, a bulldozer was used against civilians resulting in three murdered, others traumatized, the grieving, the injured, which leads to the more serious side of the character of the "Yiddishe Mama." She is a vital character. Of course, the type is an exaggeration but is developed from a strength borne from necessity: the push to overfeed one's children is a result of the harsh restrictions in the Pale of Settlement, which resulted in starvation, the overbearing stereotypical demeanor because of the unending horrors afflicted on the society for hundreds of years in place after place. She bears similarities with other mothers from other cultures, but she comes from a particularly cruel world. Perhaps if mothers from cultures, lands across the world, united, the world might be different. Surely they must almost all want the same thing: peace. BTW, for me the similarity with the stories of Chelm is the character's general feelings of powerlessness: the ineffectiveness of incessant talking, which does not prevent illness or starvation, is similar to some of the actions of the citizens of Chelm. Link to comment
pnital 36 Posted July 2, 2008 I agree to every word, I think that literature, poetry, folklore, is growing and quarried from real life resources, many times to express a point ( like the mama) exaggeration or grotesque is the way taken to express it, but the truth is there in, and in between the content.. Take for example ( very different but still) Nathan Alterman, his poetry" The silver tray", I hope you are familiar with this one, if you are, you will see that it is similar in the same way. today is a reminder. Thats why Chelms came to my mind.... there is some similarity. Link to comment
Jack McRitchie 150 Posted July 2, 2008 What a strange picture with the tired-looking cartoon housewife trudging across the stage, oblivious to the dramatic goings-on around her. You're right, this could be open to a million different interpretations. All I know is I feel more like the cartoon than the actor right now. Link to comment
pnital 36 Posted July 3, 2008 Thanks, you really made me smile with your feelings..... Link to comment
alberto_quintal 2 Posted July 4, 2008 I like it because is original, great work, Pnina. Alberto Link to comment
rogerleekam 0 Posted July 4, 2008 Pnina, original and grotesque. Interesting that the man is not looking directly at the little white figure, and that makes me wonder as to their relationship. As always, excellent light. Link to comment
pnital 36 Posted July 4, 2008 Alberto, thanks! Roger, did you see the second example ofthe scene? look a bit to mt unswer in the upper part, you will see the difference.... where he is looking and why not here... But please answer my question( ( your upload) Link to comment
pepmir 0 Posted July 5, 2008 I like this face goin out from the black. An excellent work. Regards. Link to comment
adan1 0 Posted July 8, 2008 Suffering from mother guilt complex? The woman figure is very small in scale compared to the individual, but her presence can not be dismissed. A very intriguing capture Pnina. Link to comment
pnital 36 Posted July 9, 2008 Thanks Pep and Adan. Adan, I liked the association it did for me....LOL Link to comment
laurent_jaussi 0 Posted August 12, 2008 what an original scene...cartoon theater with the human off-voice probably...the light helps so well to focus on the man's expression... Link to comment
pnital 36 Posted August 14, 2008 Laurent, Thanks for your nice comments,I have a series of this funny moments.... Link to comment
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