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It may not be to your liking, ..BUT...Why on earth would anyone give this a 3/3? Perhaps the same perverts would give naked women 7/7?

 

Yinka

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Don't be discouraged! It is obvious that there a bunch of people who are not really interested in giving honest ratings and it will ultimately be the undoing of photo.net. Consider yourself fortunate that you only got two 3/3 - I submitted one at 2:30 and withingn the first 3 minutes I got three 3/3. At least I had comments telling me it was very good image. It is sad that we have to be writing about this as opposed to the merits or weakness of an image. Even though it does not follow the rule of thirds, it is an absolutely gorgeous image 6/6.
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I don't undestand people who give 3/3 without a coment. I think this people aren't right, but they know why.

 

In order this shot, is a lovely picture plenty of colours and tones. A very good photographic eye and oportunity. Very good work.

 

Best regards from Galicia (Spain), and don't pay atention to 3/3 people.

 

 

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This picture is a knockout! My only nit is the beach line is too much in the middle--I'd crop a little off the bottom but othe than that GREAT CAPTURE!

 

Dick

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This photo is very good. A 3 note? They must be kiding. This kind of photo is't original, of course, but stil very good.

And I don't agree with you Dick Morgan, I think the line in the middle is just perfect.

 

For me... I give a 6.

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while the scene is indeed beautiful, and you have captured it with beautiful clarity, it is the scene itself that makes the image. Take the same photo without colored leaves on the trees and what do you have? Just a 50/50 mirrored image landscape...done before by many. God provided a perfect opportunity to capture the autumn colors...with perfectly calm water and not a breath of wind. You drove the miles to get there, set your camera in the correct position, and captured the beauty, and you deserve the credit for that.

 

Don't get me wrong, it is beautiful, but it would be hard to walk away with a poor result from this location, under these conditions...whether it be 50/50, rule of thirds, whatever. Keep in mind that the 3/3 results also seem to happen when frequent PN users see the same image, albeit with small variations, posted repeatedly for ratings. Just some thoughts...

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I agree with the above comments about people who rate 3/3 on great photos.

 

I sent in a email to photo.net saying that all ratings should have the raters name on it.

Their response was no way because it would lead to retailation on the raters.

Well I think if they rate great pics with 3's their pics should be retailaed on.

I am about done with photo.net when my membership comes up for renewal, forget it.

Take a look at some of my latest pics and tell me if you think they deserved a 3/3

 

OH by the way your pic is great LOL nice colors

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J Michael,

 

I totally disagree with you. You say anyone who was in the same place at the same time could get the same image. I disagree! Half the art of photography IS being at the right place at the right time, not by chance, but because the artist in you made you go there and compose the photo in THAT way. You could make your argument about anyone's landscapes. After all, if you were EXACTLY where Ansel Adams stood with EXACTLY the same camera, you would get EXACTLY the same photo, or at least a photo that is just as good. You demote this photo to just one with pretty colored leaves. This photo would be amazing even if the leaves were not colored. It is the CONCEPT, the COMPOSITION, and its EXECUTION that makes any photo great. This was NOT just someone who happened to be in the right place and luckily pointed his camera and got this imnage. I would argue that even without the reflections, this would have been a great shot.

 

The rating system says that any value of 3 is below average. So do you REALLY think this photo is below average in aesthetics? Can you HONESTLY say that? And, even in terms of composition, you say this is "JUST" a mirror image! How would you compose it? There are a million other ways I could have composed this image, none of which would have worked for me. My framing is what I wanted. There was lots of sky that I could have included. I did not feel that was what I wanted and I felt that it would take away from the impact of the image.

 

You are entitled to your own opinion, and I am to mine. So, no issues with any comments you might make. But keep them objective and honest. If you really feel that this composition and the aesthetics of this photo deserves a 3, go ahead and give it.

 

I will tell you SEVERAL reasons why it does NOT deserve a 3. The exposure is perfect. The image is SHARP. The focus is good. The image is aesthetically pleasing. So, how on earth does it get a 3?

 

I might not like Pavarotti's music, but I would not rate it as trash, just because I do not like that style. Same goes for any work of art.

 

It is amazing that on this website there are those who will rate ANY photo of a naked woman, regardless of its aesthetic value, 7/7, yet will hand out poor ratings to good photos. As I said, everyone has a right to say it is not to their liking, but can they HONESTLY say that they believe it is below average?

 

I have something to share: I took up photography exactly 2 years ago, when the leaves changed. A friend introduced me to Photo.net. Photo.net singularly was responsible for my development as a photographer. To the extent that 2 years later, my photos have been published in numerous prestigious magazines and books. I will even have the cover photo on one of the leading international photo mags next month. I developed because of the many wonderful people who inspired me and honestly critiqued my work on photo.net two years ago. The critiques (that were honest and objective) meant more to me that I could ever express. And I am deeply indebted to those on Photo.net who inspired me along the way. In my full time profession as a physician, I am very accomplished and have achieved international renown (I say this in humility). Yet, because of the inspiration and support that I have received from Photo.net, photography has become a passion, a calling in life, and I am even prouder of my achievements as a photographer (again thanks to Photo.net).

 

In the past year, I have seen the quality of critiques and instruction drop to an all time low (even though the admins try their best to prevent that). It is a crying shame that that has happened. I wish people would just be honest and objective. Numerous major talents have left Photo.net for this reason.

 

So, this was not just a "fluke". A lot of hard work went into getting this and I am very pleased with the result.

 

Yinka

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I agree with you and J Hopkins for the problem of 3/3 rating.I think it's like a tribute,a tax to pay when posting a photo!!your photo is wanderful!

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A classic shot of fall at its most magnificent spectral apogee. The colour spread is beautiful to behold.

 

I especially like the detail and clarity of the physical (i.e. not reflected) buildings along the river/lake bank. It gives the whole image an almost dream-like surreal sense. The almost-square crop works great IMHO.

 

Excellent work!

 

On another note, I couldn't agree with you more about your comments pertaining to the rampant dispersal of 3/3's by various persons unknown on PN. I've only been a PN member barely 4 months, but I most confess that it irks me greatly that 99.999% of the time, the 3/3's are unaccompanied by comments of any sort.

 

I've grown in my photography competencies since joining PN in a number of areas, but mostly as a DIRECT result of the constructive and/or critical comments left by other PN viewers. The comment-less 3/3's are a CONSTANT irritation that I CONSTANTLY choose to ignore.

 

Please ignore them and don't stop shooting!

 

Best regards,

 

-Ade

 

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I love everything about this image from the lighting to the color tones. Very beautiful image and reflection. Well done Yinka :)
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Yinka,

 

It is obvious that you take a great deal of pride in your work, whether as a doctor or as a photographer. I have always found the colors in your photographs to be outstanding. To tell you the truth, I have never really believed that the rating system truly ranks photographs from best to worst. I often rate a photograph as a 7/7 if I believe it is a photograph that I like and that I believe should be seen by others, since the rating system displays only the higher rated photographs. If you look through the photographs that others have rated, you will find a vast disparity of what people like. Often when I compare what I like to what even my favorite photographers like, I rarely find a mutually high rated photograph.

The point is this. I believe many 3/3 raters simply rate a photograph as a 3/3 to push it down on the scale of ranking to make it less visible. A 3/3 certainly lowers the average and so to that extent they achieve what they set out to accomplish. But the rating does not really have anything to do with the aesthetic quality of your photograph. (although it is supposed to) Some people on this site have been offended by a photographer's depiction of a woman being crucified and have given his photographs low ratings. Others rate nude photographs low regardless of the aesthetics.Others simply do not like photographs of bugs.Or fail to realize how difficult it is to take a good astronomical photograph.

I realize that the low ratings are hurtfull, particularly when not accompanied by a comment, but you should have enough confidence in yourself not to let this get to you. Some people just do not like landscapes, regardless of how well executed they are. Don't worry about it.

Your photographs are magnificent and you deserve all the credit and accolades that come your way.

 

David

 

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Dear David

 

Thank you for your time and thoughtfulness. Your comments are definitely very constructive and helpful.

 

Best wishes

 

Yinka

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Yinka,

 

You are welcome. I looked through the last 300 photographs of others that you have ranked highest and I do not think that we share a single photograph that we both rated a 7/7. As you know, I like your photographs but that does not mean that we like the same photographers or photographs. People simply have different tastes and preferences. But the rating system is what it is and you should not be discouraged because others do not see what you can see.

 

Again,you take magnificent photographs and I enjoy seeing them.

 

David

 

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My comments were based on my own interpretation of why some images receive the 3/3 ratings. In the top rated photos, most of the time, the ones which skate by without a 3/3, or a single 3/3, are very unique images...through composition or subject matter. Sunsets, fall foilage, basic landscapes, etc. no matter how effectively captured, will undoubtedly receive the seemingly "mandatory or automatic" 3's. Your portfolio is filled with many fantastic images and if you look at the overall numbers, your weighted heavily in the 5's, 6's, and 7's. That speaks to the quality of your work...not the 3's and 4's that seem to appear the moment you hit the submit button.

 

I failed to mention yesterday that aesthetically, this is undoubtedly a 6 or 7. Originality is subjective and as a landscape photographer, I could care less about originality ratings. Afterall, it is the impression we leave with the viewer that is important. When I take pictures of the Sleeping Bear Dunes here in Michigan, I realize that often times, I am taking a photo from an exact location that hundreds or thousands have taken one before me. However, I seek to capture my unique interpretation of that image, with the best lighting possible, with the most dramatic sky, etc.

 

Realistically, I know that someone else may have, or will, capture an even better version of the landscape I am presently capturing, but I am o.k. with that....because a day may come around when I have even better conditions. As you have done here, and as you have stated, part of the problem for all of us is caused by our emotional attachment to a photo. You know what it took for you to capture this image...the timing, the drive, getting to the right area for your composition idea, etc. That is part of the talent. However, we tend to be the only ones who feel that same emotion when we look at the image again. Everyone else just sees the image itself. I am guesssing this is why we are disappointed when we see the low ratings.

 

Regardless, keep shooting beautiful images, and enjoy the process. The ratings will always be talked about, but there is no perfect system. I just enjoy seeing everyone's work and taking ideas from it so that hopefully I can improve. It's the process of taking the images that I enjoy the most. Thanks for your commments on my portfolio and keep submitting images so that we may all enjoy viewing them.

 

 

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Thanks J. Michael

 

I truly value your critique and comments. And, having viewed your photos, I can see that you are an amazing photographer, and your talent is incredible. Your photos inspire me.

 

Best wishes

 

Yinka

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Absolutely awesome! Could you tell us where in New Jersey this was taken, and the month? I'm always excited about fall, but for some reason I seem to miss the times when the colors have peaked! I'm either too early or too late.:(

Thanks

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