l collins 0 Posted September 10, 2007 Wow! Charming capture of the guys' faces. Very nice candid! Link to comment
mvisionphotography 1 Posted September 10, 2007 These kids were all very charming. I enjoyed every moment I spent with them! ;) Link to comment
jan_piller 0 Posted September 10, 2007 I read somewhere in one of my photo books that the subject matter should fill approximatley 1/3 of your frame or 2/3 of your frame -(there's that rule of thirds!) So I must ask - what is the subject matter here? You have titled it " The Hall" So my question is.... why a hall? It's not a particularly nice looking hall. The florescent lights are rather typical. A wall is blocking part of the view. Just in my opinion, not a very nice picture of a hall. If on the other hand, you wanted our attention drawn to the activity at the "End of The Hall", then I think a closer zoom would have captured my attention more. The expression on the kid's faces would be more evident and I think it would provide a much more interesting capture. As it is, it really ain't doin' much for me. Yah yah - 3's for me - one year! Link to comment
mvisionphotography 1 Posted September 10, 2007 Better? I undersstand exactly what you are saying. I like the length. I actually have pictures all the way down the hall as they were talking. I just clicked away. This is the best FACE shot so I just cropped in with the railing still there. Let me know what you think :) Better? hmmm Maybe up to a 4 ~ he he LOL Link to comment
mvisionphotography 1 Posted September 10, 2007 why a hall... Did you ever feel like you were not PART of that conversation and on the OTHER side of the hall? How did that make you feel? ~ hmm That was the connection I felt while looking down the hall. It is more of an emotional situation. Link to comment
mmene 0 Posted September 10, 2007 I agree with Jan but of course nothing is absolute. You may use an other cropping to prove how human communication gives life even to an ugly and isolated hall like this. So a place like this may sometimes force people to come in touch better than a a hall of a big 5 stars hotel. I prefered the optimistic pov insted of the pesimistic one and that's why I used blue tones instead of sepia. Link to comment
mvisionphotography 1 Posted September 11, 2007 NOW I want everyone to play with it. This is incredible! WOW!! I am totally in awe!!! Link to comment
gerfoy3 0 Posted September 11, 2007 Crop the first light from the top Micki. The handrail creates a real good lead in line and the crop removes the distraction from the top. Ger.. Link to comment
Guest Guest Posted September 11, 2007 Micki. Excellent photo. I do think that Michael has helped it, both with tone and crop. Jan, whether in Micki's original or Michael's recrop, I don't think the point was the hall itself. It was the perspective that the visual depth and lead-in of the hallway created to give the subjects a location and a certain kind of presence. The subjects don't have to occupy a certain percentage of space, they have to be spoken about. It is a really fine accomplishment when a photographer actually leads our eye to the subject, creating and using space in the process. Space is a key part of any photo. It's (relatively) easy to present a subject. It's more difficult and a deeper experience to locate that subject in space and time. Seeing kids down a hallway is such a strong feature of the high school experience, where we all often knew people only from a distance. Here, we are getting to read the expressions on their faces even from that distance, getting to see the casualness of their little gathering. We can feel, through the perspecitve Micki created, what an impact their surroundings have on them. These beings full of life are forced into cold, fluorescent (which the blue tone captures better than the sepia) surroundings every day, nevertheless their innocence (at least in this case) and comfort and joy of life survives. Link to comment
mvisionphotography 1 Posted September 11, 2007 Blue tone ~ YES YES YES! crop light YES YES YES mirror (oh that's michael wow ;) Fred thank you ~ you understood why I did this. It was my joy to watch!! ~ Thank you all!! JOY JOY JOY!! Link to comment
jan_piller 0 Posted September 12, 2007 But I think the version she uploaded at 6:28 was executed to a higher standard - the perspective, the angle the crop.... IMHO...... and oh - I like MIchael's version too! It looks like water in the hall! Link to comment
Guest Guest Posted September 12, 2007 I guess I'd agree that the 6:28 version does seem more clear, more carefully cropped, with a more straightforward perspective, but I find myself responding negatively to all that. Like it's too clean, too straightforward, and too typical. I feel I need the more extreme perspective that the original has, and the visual quality of the original seems better suited to the mood of the subjects and environment. I loved my eye being sort of dragged down the hallway to the kids in the original. I sense Micki being more present in the original, and it also draws me in as the viewer by leading me down the hallway. The 6:28, to me, is static. But this is great. Really. And it's what we're here for. Not to agree or even to convince each other, but to discuss. And I love not only hearing your opinions, Jan, but your reasons. They make total sense to me and make me stop and think about my own. So, thanks! Link to comment
mvisionphotography 1 Posted September 12, 2007 There is still a sense of feeling LEFT out and a bit NOT too sharp. A sense where you are WAY down at the end of the hall and NOT part of the group. BUT then I really like the mirror BUT it is not me. I agree the other is cool but I'm to close to them. Maybe another kind of picture but it is not my STYLE as Fred says. I'm getting there but still working on it. I am enjoying the critiques. What I'm here for. Heck, ya'll could all give me 3's as long as I get better. That is all I care about. AND, as long as one of them don't kick me for posting this ;) ~ he he Link to comment
jan_piller 0 Posted September 12, 2007 I just felt the original wall/angle was a visual barrier and that's why I preferred the newer version (I thought I had put that in my reason but it doesn't seem to be there does it- not enough drugs I say!!) Link to comment
mvisionphotography 1 Posted September 12, 2007 I think what you really meant was that the light was bugging you too. AND cut it down about half way down that hall. It also isn't that sharp. AND HEY, why are we still up!! We are up way too late. HA HA HA Truthfully I have five more of this shot and I think I should do another like you like and see how it goes over. Just tweek it a bit different. YEP! Link to comment
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