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by Peri John

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Gallery: Glamour Photography 2

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Category: Nude and Erotic

Published: Tuesday 14th of March 2006 03:52:56 PM


Comments

Beepy .
It's a nice sequence - the partial glass of wine adds to the "I changed my mind" mood of the image. To me.

John Peri
... but the mind rarely sees ..

David McCracken
Love the series... It looks like her boyfriend rang your doorbell in this series John... or maybe she didn't like the wine! I love the series of shots. People just viewing the original posted image will probably not get it!

John Peri
... in this particular case, we had a rest and started out again ..

John Peri
Actually, there were two other friends there too ...

John Peri
... and it probably made her more shy than I did.

David McCracken
It would appear... OK! Your couch isn't too sickly but if you PS it again, I will say it is!

John Peri
... until it is over ..

John Peri
... that the eye captures ....

John Peri
... and everything is back to normal again.

John Peri
Chris, I think that we are here to criticise too, that's very important, but with all respect to those concerned, I think that one should not question the judgement of an author, particularly in moral issues that concern his work.

John Peri
Alexi, that is a very interesting comment. I have found that a model that I have photographed will always pull down her skirt carefully, when sitting down later to have a drink. Once a photographic session is over, things get "back to normal". It shows that there is a clear distinction in the mind of both the model and the photographer, and I think that is the way it should be. May I add also that it is where all the trust is situated too.

C. Daunis
What's amazing to me is the utter beauty of her musculature during this sequence. Exquisite beauty.

C. Daunis
Please, let them question, I'm only here to appreciate...:)

John Peri
Thank you Beepy and David, that's the real colour of the couch before I play with it in PS, so stop saying it's sickly!

John Peri
Darrell, you have been following my work for some time now. Do you imagine that I would put up something that one of my model's would object to ... Actually, I often print these series on a single page and give them to the models. They like them because they are spontaneouss and fun. If anything, these pictures are discreet. There are many poses that the models take inadvertantly which are not flaterring and those photos are destroyed. They are no pictures in my portfolio that are revealing, so I don't think that my work could ever be considered as exploitive. That's in large part why these girls pose for me. These are not models, they are friends.

John Peri
.. the photo is small, but you can probably see that the model is laughing that I have been photographing her while changing and moving around ... I often do this "in between" .. and she knows it, it's our third session together over the last couple of years.

Kaushik Chatterjee
John, Thank you for sharing rather off bit moments, which we can't see or realise. Good series in a single posting. Rgds.

C. Daunis
But what criticism about a motive can one appreciate? It is either beautiful, or it isn't. The model has your consent, so is it she who has issue with your motives? The viewer tends to be the guilty party, his or her notions about correctness or appropriateness. I want to see the beauty of man and woman, I don't care about what anyone else but me, or the artist, wants to interpret.

John Peri
Yes that's interesting Chris. I think that I spoilt the presentation by adding all the other stuff to this page, but what do you do on the net when people questions motives ...... anyway, in this case I think it helps to show the context and demystify ....

John Peri
Darrell, I wonder if you refer to the deleted line that I mention above. I removed the paragraph in question, because the previous author decided to do likewise, and I referred to him by name which I no longer thought right to do. Is it important? Nothing else has been changed otherwise. Just for a joke, I mention that a fifth person arrived. It was starting to get a little crowded! But I may remove the picture and this sentence if she doesn't want it here ... )!

John Peri
I don't remember him ever writing that anything you said was final! But anyway, I also find that you are a good photographer. However, usually people like yourself are tolerant and understanding of others. As for his remarks being removed, maybe he felt bad at you saying that they were too long.

John Peri
Lannie, how very nice of you to write at such length. Thank you also for your support, I appreciate it very much. I will hasten to answer you a first in private, and then see what I will add here after. ADDED LATER: Lannie chose to remove his comment ...

John Peri
You know Darrell, as in the case above, one answers a comment on the net knowing very well that it will be read not only by the person one responds to, but also by all those that have followed the thread. Irrespective of the fact that your statement was harshly put, you raised a question that could very well awaken others to the same thought as yours, and so I considered it right to reply in the detailed way that I did, though I feel that it spoiled the initial purpose of my presentation for which I do not agree that a single photo would have sufficed. In adition to bein g a study in movement, it was a statement on the paradox of modesty and humility. I find that very dignified in the case of my model. My response to your immediate statement was more curt though, because I feel that it is unfair to question an author's moral standing when he puts you in a position of trust by allowing you to visualize his work. However, it is done now and I have no hard feelings on the matter. Let us forget all this now and continue to enjoy Photo net. It is too easy to take offence with a few inappropriately expressed words written on a page such as this, and it would surely occur less often if people had more time and patience to detail out their thoughts.

John Peri
... "deleted" ... because of a remark previous to this that was removed. The net continues to be a treacherous thing with regards to communication. The facility of brevity does not always correspond to clarity, and both images and words can be interpreted in different ways. Ideally though, a message should be self sustaining yet be judged in the context of the whole. Obviously, not everyone knows the content of a portfolio, but if ever there is anything "leery" found in mine I would appreciate someone pointing it out. Finally, I guess that the lesson for me is to be more careful about what I post on the net as I did not imagine that anyone, espcecially oa photographer of "glamour", could react in that manner to this series. Admittedly, it is rather disturbing to me when the photographer and model see no harm in their work where others may do, but then it's all in the eye of the beholder, isn't it. It is rather like trying to be more royalist than the King. It is why I also claim further up that one puts a viewer in a position of trust when one exposes one's work, and not only the other way around.

John Peri
Darrell, the word Leery was inappropriate, but let's leave all this behind us now. I think that we must have exhausted the patience of the other readers, don't you think ! Now you go off and have a great weekend too.

Rasmus Lindersson
Very original to have a whole series in one single posting.

One thing crossed my mind when I saw this (Alexis mentioned it too). It's the fact that she cover up her genitals and breasts right after what seems to have been a nudeshooting. I find that quite interesting, but on the other hand I don't have any experience in nudephotography.

Anyway, I really like it.

/Rasmus.

John Peri
Change of situation ... One of those magic moments ...

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