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In The Chamber...


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This photos is still from the Aushwitz/Holocaust Theme...

any constructive comment will be appreciated, thanks

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Very good indeed!

My only suggestion is to not have the picture bleed over the textured edge to make it look more as if it was printed on the cardboard paper. It breaks the illusion of an old photograph.

I like the shadows projected on the wall because it kind of detach the girl from the enviroment but at the same time she seems to be there.

 

peace

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This is a nice image, an attractive girl in a desolate room. However, by stating it has something to say about concentration camps and the holocaust you do yourself no favours. Imposing a glamour figure onto a blank room is not profound but rather pretentious and, some might justifiably feel, insulting. The anachronism of the shaven pubes actually makes your 'theme' ridiculous. Still, at least you managed to include a tattooed number, even if it wasn't on the woman's body but rather ran upward from bottom left. Please, give this idea some more thought.
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David:

Thank you very much for your comments. I am trying to get something different from the old paper effect, so I want to check out for new ways of solving the ?frame concept?.

 

Darrell:

Thank you for your critique of my work. Obviously, it is difficult for me to agree with you but I respect your comment. First of all, let me see the things in another way, not yours - this is the idea of art, right? I saw your works and I guess you also try to add your point of view over certain things that may seem scandalous to others. So my request is: just let our imagination flow, without prejudice. I didn't want my picture to be "nice" and I don't think it may insult anyone who considers holocaust a crime. Maybe it's you that should look deeper and than you'll see other emotions, not only insults. I should have put a long series of advises maybe, related to the fact that the girl has not really posed naked in Aushwitz and that the two photos have been manipulated in order to become one.

You talk about ?glamour? and ?attractive girl? where I see a figure that represents the soul of one hypothetical victim of the holocaust. One between millions. Could a ?forested? pube change much the meaning of what I wanted to say? I think not. We are not talking about a woman, but her soul. Not all that is figurative corresponds to what it shows. And finally, not a naked body have necessarily have something to do with sexuality.

Finally, in my ?theme? (as you liked to underline) I did not add any tattooed number?

look carefully;)

 

Regards,

 

Mirko

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thanks Mirko for your reply to my questions. Indeed, I shall give what you have written some thought and get back to you. However, off the bat, I wonder if, following what you say, it would have been possible to use a naked middle aged man, an elderly woman, or an average or even unattractive woman to represent 'the soul of one hypothetical victim of the holocaust' This would certainly counter my thoughts of 'glamour'. I'll allow my imagination to flow with this image and you could perhaps imagine (maybe even re-create) this image with a model other than the one you have used. Darrell M........... ps- I looked over your portfolio and there are many excellent works there. will go back later to add comment
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I agree with Darrell: placing a naked woman in a desolate surrounding and linking it to the holocaust is very pretentious and IMO bad taste. Without the explanation you give I wonder if anyone makes the interpretation you describe ('the soul of one hypothetical victim of the holocaust'). You say that 'naked' shouldn't necessarily be linked to sexuality, but with a beautiful naked young woman as in this photo you can be pretty sure that link will be made, at least by a lot of male viewers.

Also I couldn't help noticing that the comments on the other photos in this series -at least those with a model in it- are mostly about their esthetic value. You might wonder then if you have succeeded in your intention, that is to say something about the holocaust.

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Thanks for your time looking at my works and for your comment.

Maybe my intention did not get the main goal, definitely is has not understood by most of the people and probably because I stop one step before to go into the real topic.

But the aestethic features, at least in a common gallery like this one, should be kept.

I used this girl, not exactly ?beautiful? but with a very thin and androgin body features as it would recall the typical image that we all have in mind of the carried body where it is difficult to understand if was once a man or a woman. They were all the same, like numbers, all going in the same directions, all treated in the same way. No matter if they were young, old, females, males.

I choose to use a female figure because I never use male figures in my works. I could have used an older woman or a more specific image but it would be consider not exactly as ?esthetic? as this one and I would be sure that the critiques on the ?morality? would be even more hard.

I could be more explicit maybe, from now on?

 

Bests,

Mirko

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Personally, I think you've got a wonderful concept here, and I think you've done a good job at expressing it. I can see Darrel's and Theo's point about using such a lovely and young model in this theme. However, I see things from a slightly different point of view... perhaps different from all three of you. To me, the freedom of this image (yes, expressed by a lovely young model) is positively triumphant over the ugly, horrific atrocities that occurred in this place. This may be an unusual approach to the subject, but I believe it is a worthy idea artistically. In this light, I personally don't feel that it is disrespectful or in poor taste. Rather, it is one valid expression among many, many others.
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thanks for the comment - I guess you got perfectly the point... if you put one flower in such a place you get the hypotetical same result...

:)

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