"White Picket Fence"

by Tsoi Wilson

white picket fence seeking critique tsoi wilson

Gallery: Travel, USA, Pacific Northwest

Tags: seeking critique

Category: Travel

Published: Tuesday 14th of June 2005 07:07:52 PM


Colin Carron
I didn't notice the flare until I read your comment. I was transfixed by the fence detail, lighthouse, sunset, house, flagpole, etc. I think flare can be used to create the idea of bright lights (see it often in films) Here it reinforces the idea of the brilliance of the setting sun. Picket = sentry, a defence, pointed stick acting as a defence, fence with pointed sticks. (courtesy of Colin's cornucopia of useless knowledge - no guarantees of accuracy)

Vincenzo Corbo
I've been there lot's of time and always looked at that lighthouse searching for good point of view. You're incredible!!!

FranciƱo Fran
Bonita escena con mucho detalle y nitidez. Colores vivos.

"EVE ning of construction..." That I call full balance between feeling and brain. REgards

Howard Dion
One of your top images IMHO. The lens flare adds to the charm. Well done.

Florian Gradwohl
great light and composition, impressive colors. cheers florian

Manolis Spanakis
Beautiful detail on the fence and superb light! the sun light echos/replaces/suggests the phare light

Jay Patel
They all said it....I am impressed. I will have to take photoshop lessons from you. :-))

Henri Manguy
Excellent composition. I love it very much.

John H.
The flare is not yoo distracting. The unatural brightness of objects in shadows is. True, the human eye can see shadowed objecets better than film or digital. A little bit of darkening in the shadows would help. Everyone else seems to accept it though.

Joe Orsak
Hey Wilson, How do you combine the two? Do you layer and blend them? Do you arease the area off the one you don't want? I tried it but I have an imag ethat has a lot of detail (a tree). I got the exposure right on the tree and then on the sky so I have two different images. I'm just not sure how to blend them now.

Jayme Hall - Bardstown, KY
Wilson- Somehow I missed this one. It is a beauty! So glad Colin gave us the low down on "Picket" fences. I love "Colin's cornucopia of useless knowledge", I also LOVE picket fences :) Standing guard and all, better name than "sentry fences", much more friendly sounding :) The zig-zag composition draws my eyes from the lower right to left, jumping from picket to picket. Then up to the house, beaming across the bright sky to the pole, taking a short detour, hopscotching down the lens flares and then back up, to the light house & purple skies majesty .^_^. I like the energy it creates. It reminds me of when I was a little girl, skipping down the street and dragging my hands across the fences as I went, I also stopped occasionally to toss a stone and play pretend hopscotch! I was a strange child ^-^ :) You merged these 2 perfectly. The lens flares are real, right? You didn't add these. If you did, they are also perfectly placed. Amazing sky!

Wilson Tsoi
Appreciate all your feedback, FLORIAN: Very glad you like it. FRANCINO: Lots of detail and vivid colors, thanks! KEN: Glad you like it. To merge the two, (particularly useful for high contrast situation,) just take one exposure for the highlights and one for the shadow (using tripod to keep exact same framing.) You then can play around in one file with 2 separate layers. Add or reduce separately as you see fit. I'm confident you'll find it quite easy to manage. MANOLIS: Very glad you like this, Manolis. SCOTT: Thanks for your feedback. I guess Colin has it covered for us below! FRANK: Thanks. Funny that I never knew about entering the ground. Just found out one can do so even after hour! REINER: Always appreciative of your feedback. HOWARD: Glad you think so, Howard. COLIN: Your breakdown makes lots of sense. I certainly feel like putting on a pair of sunglasses just to work on this it. Thank you much for the, "Picket," info!!! Wilson ^_^

Ken Beilman
Wils, Lens flare doesn't bother me. Almost looks like it ought to be there. One of these days, I'm gonna have to learn that trick of merging 2 exposures. Really nice composition and lighting. Very well done.

Joe Orsak
Wilson, SUPERB shot. This has very deep colors. Just briliiant. I'm so going to have to work with the double exposure trick myself. I've seen some very impressive work resulting from it. This is one of your best IMHO. As for the lens flare, I'm always torn on them. I often like them but can never decide if it adds or detracts from the shot. I do like, in this image, how it draws you into the point that the pole seems to be point at which is the sun itself. Very interesting.

Frank Melchior
Great I like the detail on the fence, I've been there many times to shoot but never looked this good. Kudo's Frank

Scott Jenkins
Always wonderful Wilson, nothing short of impressive. I know nothing about picket fences.

Wilson Tsoi
Joe, Jay, John, Vincenzo, and Jayme, Thanks for checking this out. JOE: Thanks for your vote of confidence. I'm sure it'll come easy enough for you. Indeed, I had to put the sun behind the pole to lessen the flare as well as not to kill the camera's imaging sensor. JAY: Thanks for the compliment. Lessons? Yeah, right. Your PS skill is just fine. ^_^ JOHN: Different stokes for different folks. Just a matter of personal preference I'm sure. Thanks for your feedback nevertheless. VINCENZO: Thanks for your comment, Vincenzo. JAYME: The lens flares are indeed real on this one, Jayme. I didn't add them. We had some nice weather last week or two. I like your description of energy and indeed, thanks to Colin for the low down on Picket fences! Wilson ^_^

Wilson Tsoi
Joe, I pretty much used the layer method along with different sizes and opacity of eraser tool. Make sure you have base layer and work at various opacities. You can also use masking as well, (nightmares of manually cutting rubylith resurfaced,) but I personally don't find them too useful for such task.

Dave Dube
Hi Wilson, I'm not sure the inner glow you gave the lighthouse to soften the edges from the sky adds to the photo. For me, it makes it look planted or "pasted" into the photo. Even the flare looks great, just the lighthouse.

Regards, Dave

Charbel Youssef
Great colors and details. Shadow work is excellent. Nice Job

Winston Rockwell
I'm a bit conflicted about this image. Having photographed this lighthouse myself a couple of times, I confess to a certain bias, but I find this photo juse a bit "over the top". The lighting looks unnatural, as do the soft edges on the lighthouse itself, and the fence itself takes up a bit more of the frame than I'd like - though if it's the subject, it may not take up enough! On the other hand, I love the dark, ominous sky and the richness of the colors, and the way the inside of the light itself is softly lit against the dark sky - that's a very nice effect. Lots of folks have mentioned the lens flare. Some like it, some don't. Personally I find it distracting, and would try to get a shot without the flare if possible. I might also try shooting this in vertical format... that would let me include the fence, if desired, but also allow me to compose the shot without the building on the left, since the main point of interest in this location is the lighthouse itself. That would also simplify the image a bit... as it is now, there are too many points of interest, and the viewer is uncertain which is the primary one. With only a bit of the fence in the foreground, and the lighthouse itself against the sunset, I feel this would be a stronger image. Of course, that's just my own personal taste...

Jeff Roetman
Would this qualify as HDR photography? Just wondering - I have read up a bit on HDR (high dynamic range) photography, and this seems like an example of this. Does it really qualify as such?

Francis Magalona
Sharp! This is refreshingly SHARP. Clap-clap. I like it.

Alex Milarakis
Excellent composition and lighting and very beautiful sky color. Congrats !

Chris Kardos
Nice! it's like a painting of a dream! nice!

Clive Williams
Sense of Place A beautifully sharp image in the foreground with a complimentary background. Great work Clive

Ivan Knez
Hi Excuse me but the picture sucks! Less photoshop and it would be great, butt this is really tacky.

Bob Bill
Paul Strand Reminescent of Strand's "Picket Fence" hence the title? I love the sky color and the way the lighthouse jumps from the page. I can feel the texture of the fence. Great diagonal and perspective on the fence and verticals of the flag pole and lighthouse. Was the saturation kicked up to achieve the color effect and sharpening used for the lighthouse separation? I wonder if frame clean up could have been done by a lower and slightly to the left camera position to obscure hose and box and possibly sidewalk. Moving back might still have framed the lighthouse with the fence. Although, I like the repeated diagonal of the sidewalk. Could just clone out the hose and box. I seem to spend a lot of time cloning out flare but if shooting off tripod, have learned to use the timer and shoot with one hand, the other hand as a lens shade where possible. On tripod, a cable release frees a right hand. I like the white house in the image because it keeps the eye on the gorgeous sky between the buildings in a visual gunsight. This photo makes me wish I had been there at that moment. Hmm, both the fence and the houses repeat the framing. Nice! Great shot!

Wilson Tsoi
Appreciate all your feedback, Dave: Noted your comment and points well taken. This is one of my earlier experiment at digital grad filter, so perhaps I might have erased too much off of the dark layer in the lantern area. Well, at least I gave it a shot eh? Laurie: Thanks for your feeback and glad yo like it. Winston: Very appreciative of your feedback. I certainly understand your over-the-top comment and the soft edges. As for the flare, it's tough to block it off if the sun is smack in middle of the frame, so there it is as part of composition. As for simplifying the composition to only the lighthouse itself, perhaps you'll prefer this: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3464955 Carl: Appreciate your valuable observation. I suppose it is up to each individual viewer to make out of what's in an image. If one wants to adhere closely to the image's title, one can certainly arrive at a different conclusion from those that assess it with different approaches. Sometimes glass is half empty, sometimes glass is half full. ^_^ Alex: Thank you much for your comment. Jeff: This is pretty much a "Manual" HDR done in Photoshop. Traditionally, you'll use a graduated neutral density filter to hold back the highlight area and balance out the EV of the whole frame so that the image can be recorded with full range on film. As of today, there are many ready-to-use HDR programs that you pick up and from what I heard, are relatively easy to use (haven't tried it yet.) Francis: Glad you like it. Chris: Appreciate it, Chris. Clive: Thanks for your compliments. Ivan: Glad you spoke your mind. I'm perfectly fine, and it is to be expected, that not everyone would find this his/her liking. That is the reason why we post on PN, yes? However, IMHO, it would be more helpful to me and to other site participants if you were to objectively elaborate your dislikes instead of simply saying what you just said. BTW, based on your bio pic, contrary to you comment of less Photoshop, that black blob on your left arm said otherwise. Bob: Very appreciative of your feeback. I typically shoot a normal setting with DSLRs and do the processing later in PS, essentially developing my own film and print control, to use an analogical term. Yes, along with steps described in detail tab above, a bit of saturation was dialed in. Forget about taking out the flare in this shot since the sun is smack in middle and practically impossible to block out with hands or flags. As for this composition, it is what it is as I experiment with varieties of composition of this locale in which you can find more here: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=452177 and here: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=486683 Thanks again y'all, Wilson ^_^

Wilson Tsoi
FWIW, here are the original frames before merging.

Wilson Tsoi

Carl Richards
White Pickett Fence picture The title of this picture leads us to believe that the pickett fence is the subject of the picture. However, my eye is immediately drawn to the sunset first, then the sky, then the lighthouse and the fence only last. If the fence is truly the subject, then perhaps less emphasis should be placed on the other objects, such as with a slight lens blur and maybe darkening the house on the left. It appears to me that the real subject is the sunset over the coast. The colors are very nice and you have captured the exposure of the various elements well. I like the picture, but I find it a bit cluttered and confusing.

Michael Blum
I feel that the fence is a detractor from the rest of the photo. Most of the people who commented did so about the detail in the fence and not much about the color in the sky or the composition of the buildings. If the fence had been left out, the photo would have been much stronger. As it is, the fence leads the eye away from what I feel should be the center of interest, the buildings, the sunset and the flair. Actually the fence is a wall blocking the rest of the photo, lose it and turn the camera a few degrees to the left and you have a much stronger photo.

Gerard Bianchi
Excellent I think that this is an excellent image. I'm particularly taken with the extremely large zone of focus. How did you manage that?

Wilson Tsoi
"White Pickett Fence," at Mukilteo Lighthouse Here's the real lens flares. Does it work for your, or is it really distracting? Why is it called, "Pickett" fence anyway? Hmmm....

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