Shoot me!

by Amelkovich Igor

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Gallery: NUDE & EROTIC

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Category: Fine Art

Published: Wednesday 14th of July 2004 01:04:12 PM


Comments

Leonardo Villalobos
great Very creative

Marylou Hostetter
Great Vision Igor, I have always been a great fan of your work and I follow what you do. I enjoy watching your vision be put on film and I love what you do with this photo. You are the type of photographer I strive to one day be... Keep up the incredible work.

Lars Nilsson-Lund
Just great, love it. 7/7

Annika Lund
It's not very offen I feel that I can vote a 7 for originality but this time I can. Great photo with good composition, light and creativity. Like it a lot. Well done. Ciao Annika

Barry Thompson
A nice set of bellows.

peter janosik
you're the MASTER what else should i say

Bill Cardwell
Not original - a straight copy, surely.

Sergei Sogokon
Nicely done!Congrats!

Slava Khristich
Funny and cool Asssssssom!!!!

Wilson Tsoi
Aesthetically funny, yet classically beautiful!

Thomas Collins
Klass! Very unique and thought provoking. I love it.

David Barstow
7/7 SUPERB! The almost surreal scale along with masterful composition and lighting make this a truly unique photograph. This belongs in The Photography Hall Of Fame!

Igor Laptev
7/7 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zoya Mihunova-Anderson
i like it ! :-)

John Crowe
Wow. Certainly more lighthearted than your usual. Excellent! What a model too.

Nana Sousa Dias
Perfect and fabulous!

David McCracken
Yes! Need anyone say anything? It is good that you share your genius with us!

David Vatovec
Igor that`s one of your best!

James Vincent Knowles
Very groovy. Igor - love the composition. And the lighting seems to be completely in your control... you are the nude lighting master! And you seem to be quite adept at finding these wonderful models! Excellent work.

Wizard of Ozz
7/7 igor - this is excellent. what could be added? nothing! regards

Sarah Underhill
This is FUN! Great idea.

Kim Slonaker
You always seem to come up with some original concepts (not easy to do with all the great photography on this site). Great work again!

Jovan Miric
Bravo Very Good

Barry Needle
As always Igor - superb! The dusty old camera and backdrop contrasts well with the smoothness of the nubile young girl.

Vic Krag
Very cool, nice textures, shapes and contrasts. I think the profile works well, too.

Andres Borbon
Excelent, Igor. Your picture is fascinating. Few words to add to the previous comments. Bravo!

Kevin Greggain
Bravo Igor What a splendid and most captivating photo.. It combines the antique photo era, bathed in sepia and in the glowing focus area of the image, a beautiful young woman.. The contrast is perfect for this shot.. I love it..

Erin Boyd
Tastefully erotic and immaculate as always Igor

H. C.
Shoot Me... Igor... great image! Now, can we see a pic of the end result from the shoot? :>) Cheers

Janis Barbars
8/8! Who said 7/7 is the sky?

Igor Amelkovich
Thanx all !!! ѯ౨ᮮ

Mihut Ionescu
How come Igor never got photo of the week??? Awesome! Igor, every time I go on photo.net, I'm always looking for a new picture of yours. But how come Igor never got "photo of the week" by now???

C Everton
I like the idea and also light and texture are very good...where highlights are exposed properly and also the curves and conturs of the body are awesome too.. Overall i like the composition and a very original idea... Probably shot using studio light ej? I would be very grateful if you could view some of my portraits and leave a few comments for me to improve in photography.. Thx in advance

Floris Andrea
Very good... Rich, graphic, strong. Once i looked at this with a differend perspective... Ciao, floris.

Adrian Maniutiu
Truly excellent. Nothing else to add... Cheers

Michael Nigro
This is so unique that it needs to be designated POL-Photo of a Lifetime. Composition is perfect. Exposure could not be better. Originality is something for which we all need to strive. Bravo Igor!!!!!

Cristi Teodoreanu
Superb ! Astonishing composition ...

Evgeni Rozenshtein
"Where is the viewfinder..." "Taking sides"
"Dogging"
"Coaxial"
"Exchanging memories"

Just fantastic!!! Can't be better!

Don Farra
interesting Why can't the rest of the photographers figure this one out. Keep int simple and provide contrast, and I am not talking shades of black and white. Note the contrast between the two subject of the image and yet they have a common thread between them that is easy to see. Soft & round vs square and hard, mechanical vs cloth covered, just enough cropping and complete separation betwen the subjects and the backround. I say subjects since the model is not facing the camera as such equal to the view camera as a posed prop of the photograph.

zurStrafeBarbie punishmentBarbie
doggy *:-)
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Martin Peterdamm photo|design

Hugh Hill
M'mmmmmm, I wonder what Mr Freud would make of this. Bled tey beiste, ochey ladna photography. 1/1 Just Kidding 7/7

J.O. Kim
Ooooo I can't shoot you never !! But your shot is so great !! :-)))

Barry Fisher
Now there's a clever idea. Very well done.

Adam Sewastianowicz
one of my favourite

Stavrositu Iuliana
Great photo! Very original! Excelent!

Dariusz Klimczak
Igor, U know Outstanding! Gold medal.

ivana kusman
great shot

Dan Bliss
One of the best photos ever... Dan

Radu Grindei
Tsar Igor Beautiful photograph. Excellent lighting work (already usual to you), lovely composition (in your hands) and the right model for an inspired shot (not for the first time). Please, don't stop dreaming.

Brad Kim
A masterpiece, Igor!

William A. Rieselbach
You need to be using that beautiful old camera to shoot that beautiful young model. Excellent!

Sauciuc Gabriela
7/7 Excellent!

Meir Samel
i was in your folio, I remember the photos and that you shoot with a 503CW yeaaaaaaaaa I did not see this photo on my other visits. it is excellent

Kombizz Kashani
great tones and lovely forms

Lech Dobrzanski

I see women without a face in a an animalistic pose.

Does she have a brain? will she put the finger into the lens and learn optics?

Yes the king is naked.

Daniel Chang
Beautiful

This is a beautiful picture that caught my eyes immediately. The original was outstanding, the contrast of machine and human, heavy mechnic and soft smooth body, and because of a old heavy camera make it muchmore reasonable and connective to the woman body rather than some machine.

A collectale worth good work!

Dan Countryman

Well done sir!!!

Mohit Doda

Absolutely brilliant.  

ali bvandi

the dusty camera and sexy girl takes you to an unknown place without time

Apostolos Spanoudis

A photograph that includes photography, sensuality and charming nudity all set so much well that personally i would put it into the Pantheon of expressionism history.Regards

Kirill Popov

GREAT!

Patrick Hudepohl
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Please note the following:

Stephen Penland
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A cliche, and a degrading one at that. Technically, I think it's very good, with a strong and pleasing contrast between the model and the large camera. But choice of subjects influences me, just as would photos of dog fighting, child abuse, or environmental degradation. I know I'll be the odd person out, but depiction of females in this manner (and there are even more egregious examples in Igor's portfolio) are not in any way pleasing to my eye. Those who sing praise (and there are many) can have it.

Gordon JB
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Technically proficient cliche......yawn.

Landrum Kelly
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Well, just look at it this way, guys. It could have been this one:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2599153

The raves and the praise will start soon enough. As for me, I prefer my women a little less, uh, metallic.

--Lannie

Salvador Ayala
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OMG! That is so neat!!!

Miroslav Kalinaj
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Igor,
Despite landscape photographer I do follow your work with interest. There are many gorgeous images in your portfolio showing great talent and outstanding artistic skills, many can feel envy only looking through your work. Nude never was in my photographic intentions, I do prefer look at it when made by photographers as you. Some of your pictures I downloaded and looking through them I'm always amazed how intriguing, attractive and beautiful women bodies can be even after my 47 years of learning. However, please no offense, I do agree with Stephen in this forum this is or can be seen as a kind of degradation of such beauty I believe this image is. Maybe it is lack of "artistic view" or poor knowledge of act/nude/erotic photography on my side but I do not feel any magic looking at this picture in comparison with some of yours gorgeous shots. To be frank and straight - I don't see anything interesting in this one particular shot but it can be just my very subjective opinion and point of view. I think it is empty, nothing telling shot despite of gorgeous girl of course, sorry. I will keep coming back to your work because I believe you are and will be a great figure of contemporaneous nude photography, I hope you will be as careful to pick up your pictures as you are selecting your models!

Andrew Maidanik
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Класс!

Fred G
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"I hope you will be as careful to pick up your pictures as you are selecting your models!"

That pretty much says it all. It seems for many, it's the model that counts. It might be good to remember, this is a photograph, not the woman you're going to sleep with!

This is, as has been mentioned, technically awesome. Really, really beautiful to look at. As good quality a photo as I've seen on PN. A cliché that doesn't seem to address itself as a cliché or rise above its clichéness, so very disappointing in terms of imagination, creativity, and vision. Popular by PN nude standards: distanced, objectifying, pretty, titillating, tried and true. (I don't find it degrading, which would go a step further for me than objectification. I don't think this photo goes there.)

It seems to fit in with the rest of Igor's portfolio and with the nudes category in general (for the most part). I don't know what Miroslav sees in Igor's other photos that he doesn't see in this one. It seems a consistent portfolio.

Pnina Evental
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Technically well done. No any meaning for me, another use of woman's nude body, as so many others at PN.

Bobby Karimipoor
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This image is completely interesting.One of the positive points is the composition and her gesture in front of the camera.Nicely showed the ancient camera and its tripod and good communication between them and the spaces.And the other good point is the title,that fit perfect to this shot.Nice atmosphere with beautiful b&w managing.
Regards(Bobby).

David Nichols
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The contrast between the two subjects, the curves and lines and composition make it a very interesting photo, after looking at this for a few minutes I really don’t notice the woman being nude that much it’s more about everything else in the photo that makes it a winner to me. As far as cliché…. Look around just about everything has been photographed before, some just do it a lot better that others.
I am curious why some think that this image is degrading; is it the pose of the woman on her elbows and knees or just because she is nude, please enlighten me.

Andrew Meszaros
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What is the point of this photograph? Am I supposed to pretend that I don’t notice the provocative posture of the model? If I didn’t notice it, then I wouldn’t know what this photo is about. If I do notice it, (which I am sure everyone does) then this picture is primarily about that. It is what I would call “soft porn” to distinguish it from “hard pornography” where every biological detail of the subject’s body would be in plain view. I could talk about technical perfection, aesthetic quality and the like, but that does not change the fact that the primary purpose and impact of this image is a crude intrusion of someone’s privacy.

And I also agree that it is degrading. There are ways to present feminine beauty with elegance and intrigue, but this is not one of them.

Ann Courtney
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Beautifully lit and composed with just the right element of fun.

Michael Chang
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I've been following Igor's work since 2004. His nudes are a little extreme for me but I have learned much about the genre and gained new appreciation for those embarking on the challenge from his work and writing:
On nudes - <How do I do this?>
and - <Plastic choreography or Speaking body Language?> by an art critic.

There's always a risk of saturating an audience with so many (technically) high quality images but sift through carefully and one will discover lots to learn.

I can't tell you why I like this picture; probably because of the playful pose and the contrasting blond hair of a woman in her prime against the old.

Ivano Cortesini
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To me this picture tell about the new trend in women's body sale. The http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2599153 say that more explicitly. It's a good provocation. Light is perfect but background should be brighter...

Michael Ferron
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Hey somebody feed that woman. :) You really have to appreciate this. Original, quirky and amusing. Love the Egyptian-like hand position. Hats off for thinking this one up.

L R
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It's not a recent photo, dated back in 2004. Six years are a lot in photographic work, as Igor pursues it. By the way, in 2004 it might have looked more original to the viewer's eyes than in 2010.

I am not clear about the issue of "women objectification", as Pnina puts it. I can see her point, but most probably in photography there is quite some objectifications. For example when reporting suffering, or exclusion, or poverty. We probably can't get around this.

As to the photo itself, it's good all in all, technically very well executed - Igor has a refined technique, definitely - lighting, tones.
One element which strikes me negatively is the huge draped stand for the model. It is really very, very large and prominently comes out of the picture. Maybe it's too large in respect to the other elements in the photo.

Ken Thalheimer
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I can't add much more than what Jim Adams has said. He's said it very well

Fernando Monreal
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Igor is one of my favorite photographer of this site, this one is another great work from him, Congrats Igor for your excelents and honest photoworks!

Randy Rakhmadany
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awesome..

Les Berkley
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@Jim Adams: You must be jealous :) He has a bigger camera than you do!
What IS this, folks? The new age of Puritanism? This image can be accused of nothing worse than a bit of cuteness. So the model looks like she's waiting for some doggie-style interaction. Some women like that; some don't. Seems to have been going on since ancient times in any case.
Has anyone considered this as a statement about the relationship between photograpy/media/image and women? This is one BIG powerful camera (20x24?) facing a hapless blonde. It can do what it wants with her. Maybe. Or maybe she is turning the tables and staring it down?

Fred G
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I don't think people who don't like this photo because it's a cliché or objectifying are Puritanical. That would be a very superficial reading of the comments. I, myself, am open to more sexuality and blatancy in images than many others. That doesn't mean that some nudes can't bore me to tears. This photograph, to me, has NO sexuality in it. If it had some genuine sexuality, it would be much better. True sexuality objectifies and also goes beyond that. Pin-ups, in general, are not sexual. They are pretty. Like this picture.

Dougity B
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If you separate this shot from the rest of Igor's work, and take it as it is, on its own, and then consider Pnina's position "another use of woman's nude body, as so many others at PN" and combine that thought with the perspective of degradation that has appeared in many comments, what you have here is actually a statement of the history photography and the nude. It tells us that that the two go back a long way. The woman is impersonal, objectified, but isn't that how it is? Igor doesn't to try to personalize his models, they are stand-ins to convey a concept. They don't have names or personalities because they're not meant to. I'm fairly sure the photo is not trying to tell us anything about her character, or what she finds meaningful in life. From that, I don't think it's fair to negatively judge it because the woman is objectified. As a cliche, rather than passing it off as such, one might offer an opinion on its effectiveness at communicating that cliche. I don't have any questions as to why the camera is aimed at the woman, but I'm forever intrigued at what the woman is looking for in the camera.

L R
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Doug Burgess , June 24, 2010; 06:41 A.M.
Igor doesn't to try to personalize his models, they are stand-ins to convey a concept. They don't have names or personalities because they're not meant to.

It's true, but at the same time Igor's women are very, very strong. Strong bodies, strong poses, strong "characters".
No passive attitudes in his portfolio. Involvement with strong objects or in strong activities. All this is sustained by his technical choices: black&white, square format, marked contrasts.
Ok, he doesn't tell us a story about their personality, but he tells us that women are strong subjects in his photos. Subjects, not objects.
I would pose a more general question on whether photographing means objectifying (it's going on in another forum here). For sure, more than objectification, here - and in Igor's portfolio in general - we can see how he produces icons of his visual concepts.

Dougity B
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Luca Alessandro Remotti , Jun 24, 2010; 06:56 a.m. Igor's women are very, very strong

Excellent point, Luca. one would have to be blind not to realize that.

Dan Bliss
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So a few photographers (including ones for whom I have great respect) have suggested that this photo is a bit cliche'. With all respect, I have to say that I disagree. Now, not all photos work for everyone. The world is a better place because of our differences. For me this not just one of my favorite photos on PN, but really one of my favorites ever. I like the interaction between the beautiful model and the beautiful large format camera. I like the subtle symmetry between the bellows and the model's ribs. I like the almost humorous interaction between the camera and the model looking back at each other. It is almost like the first meeting of two alien species. I think this interaction works because the camera is so large and interesting, otherwise the camera would get lost in the photo. I like the careful attention to the lighting. I like the amazing control of densities and contrast. I like the composition in both its balance and simplicity. I appreciate that it might not work for everyone, but for me it is wonderful. Thank you Igor for sharing it with us. Dan

Jon Hallberg
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Sooooo, is there a light at the end of the tunnel?

Fred G
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I don't see these women as strong, yet I don't think I'm blind. I see them as posed. I'm not in any way against posing people to create photographs. I do it myself often. But I can see the difference between a photographer's gesture and a woman's character. I actually see the woman in this photo as quite suppliant. In others, I think the photographer is suggesting strength with the poses. Mostly, they are unconvincing due to feeling forced. I also sometimes like overtly forced poses, especially when there seems to be something revealing about the forced nature of the pose. I don't find that in Igor's work.

joe casey
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Don't know who the model is but... I'd buy that for a dollar!

Mike Urbanek
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The photo is technically elegant. My emotional response to the image is...
...I am in love. Not with the model although she is lovely. The shot made me remember how much I love the digital age, after carrying around a view camera for twenty years! Admittedly, it was 4X5 and not 16X20.

Jamie Tracey
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Having read through the comments on this image and reviewed the photographer's photostream I'm afraid I have to declare the Emperor in his new clothes 'Naked' !
I'm afraid I'm definately not a fan of any of this work.
This is the first ever image that I have expressed any reaction to having previously thoroughly enjoyed virtually everything. Perhaps my perspective went beyond this particular image and embraced the body of work I scrolled through.

Trisha Jean-Angela
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As others have said, this photo is technically great...other than that, it is a typical photo which serves no purpose but to feature yet another nude woman. I do not usually say negative things about the work of others, and this photographer has superb technical merit so I am sure I will be bombarded with negative comments about my strong dislike for his work...I abhhor photography depicting violence and degradation toward women (or men or animals for that matter but women are the most depicted in these type of photos). I do not regard such photos as "art" and wish people would think of the effect their works have on others and on society before they share them. Yes, I know, I don't have to look...and I don't, but one can't help it when it is thrown in your face and in this case in the PN newsletter!
Many photos in his portfolio depict violence under the guise of "erotica" and I for one do not see anything artistic or erotic about violence or the suggestion of it. The elves could be more sensitive to this matter before choosing photos of the week that would lead people to look at the other images in his portfolio.

Lytton Martin
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No, shoot me! Really? Posed nudes? No face? This girl must have a face for radio. Tired and boring. Great body though!

Lytton Martin
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No, shoot me! Really? Posed nudes? No face? This girl must have a face for radio. Tired and boring. Great body though!

L R
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Fred Goldsmith , Jun 24, 2010; 02:34 p.m.

I don't see these women as strong, yet I don't think I'm blind. I see them as posed. I'm not in any way against posing people to create photographs. I do it myself often. But I can see the difference between a photographer's gesture and a woman's character. I actually see the woman in this photo as quite suppliant. In others, I think the photographer is suggesting strength with the poses. Mostly, they are unconvincing due to feeling forced. I also sometimes like overtly forced poses, especially when there seems to be something revealing about the forced nature of the pose. I don't find that in Igor's work.

I have a different view: in first instance the model in this photo seems to challenge the camera. It recalls the cat who ducks before attacking. I don't see her as suppliant.
Maybe we use strength with a different meaning. "Posed" and "strong" are two completely different concepts. I still think that there are numerous photos by Igor which show the strength of the model.
I mean strength in the sense of physical and mental power. The poses are strong. Not necessarily the photos.
Some maybe forced, but that's probably a matter of posing technique.

Fred G
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Luca, I didn't mean to suggest that "posed" is the opposite of "strong." Not at all. I meant that even if the poses are seen as strong, that doesn't lead me to think the women posing that way are strong. These "women" are so far distant and removed from their personhood that I don't think of "woman" at all. I think whatever strength I see in these photos or in the poses seems superficial and simplistic -- simple symbols and one-dimensional, clichéd gestures that are supposed to suggest strength but fall short of going to any really significant rendering of it.

Gerry Siegel Honolulu
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Without the impressive looking antique something out of Dr. Frakenstein's laboratory camera or Edwin Lands', and impressive piece of industrial art at that, the kneeling nude with hidden face behind mop of blond hair would be just sort of ordinary,nice but kind of ordinary. With the camera, it becomes a sublime joke to any of the photographically inclined with a sense of the classic. And a litle ennuie for sprawling over the top nudes in wild limb sprawl or hanging from chandeliers....
Overall, I would say much better than average on offer, and something one could look at and enjoy with pleasure after more than one glancing shot. It is in short, a piece of art and a composition that was thought out, reflecting that thought And a bit of fun,which pops out right away and kind of thumbs the nose at current nude cliches. (Why do I must look at Igor's other work to render a comment/personal regard for it, well, it always beats me. (POW means picture, singular. But have it your way, since we all get to vote and this has become a staple in the POW commentary).
I think this one shows a talented mind at work. I would like it in my portfolio for sure, not because it is a nude, not because it has good monochrome quality, but it is a non cliche nude, those deemed 'sensuous' or artsy or erotic.
This photo shoots for higher artistic ground and its age, could have come from the thirties, is irrelevant. Good work, Igor. Nice one.
And nice arch of the model's lovely muscled back and quads. Strong, dynamic- but not too dynamic to the point of unnatural- pose.. background, ah, just like something out of a studio shot from the thirties, unassuming and just right for the foreground.

Sue Darby
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Excellent, and so creative!! Love the tone!

subrata das
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Its an artful deep designing detail with penetrating perspective of a foxy image keeping striking distance with close grips on subject "shoot me".

subrata das
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Its an artful deep designing detail with penetrating perspective of a foxy image keeping striking distance with close grips on subject "shoot me".

subrata das
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Its an artful deep designing detail with penetrating perspective of a foxy image keeping striking distance with close grips on subject "shoot me".

L R
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Fred,

I meant that even if the poses are seen as strong, that doesn't lead me to think the women posing that way are strong

Ok, I think it is a lexical issue. Of course I can't tell whether Amelkovich's models are actually strong or not. As I can't tell whether Lisa Lyon was strong or not, even if she appeared strong.
But the pose is strong, as you say.
We perhaps could compromise on "posed strong" and therefore "objectified as strong".

clichéd gestures that are supposed to suggest strength but fall short of going to any really significant rendering of it

Could be. My feeling about Igor's pictures is that they somehow reflect the stylised Soviet culture and its artistic expression. In the end the pictures tend to look all the same - clichéd, as you say.

Jan W. Tromp
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It's a funny image. Here, to me, the fact that the model is nude doesn't add to the image. Imagine the model
in lingerie of the 30th and I expect a much stronger image.

Gordon JB
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In response to Doug's suggestion that only the blind would fail see the strength of these women, I would suggest that only the blind would be duped into believing that any of these images are intended to communicate the strength of womanhood.  A nude women rubbed down with baby oil, with a hunting knife in her hand and shaving cream on her genitals is not,  in my view, a depiction of strength, rather it is  a women posed in a photo constructed to perpetrate a tired sado-masochistic erotic cliche.   The bulk of Igor's work leans heavily on the same overused  sexual cliches , bondage scenarios,  suggestions of self mutilation , women tied to beds, the fact that Igor avoids including most models faces in his set ups speaks to his view of women,  at least as regards their portrayal in his photographs.


If what Doug meant by " strong "  in his comment was that many of the models in Igor's photos are young, in good health,  probably work out at the gym and would most likely be able to take him in a mud wrestling contest, then I  would have to agree, although some of the models do look a bit underfed.


 I  do not have an issue with the  photographer's choice to objectify women, although I can understand  the sentiments  of those who may be offended. As an artist it is Igor's prerogative to chose the manner and style with which he wishes to express himself creatively.  Igor's photography is not about depicting  the women he photographs as individuals. I see no interest in getting at the heart and soul of these women , the models are props in a sexual fantasy. Their purpose  in the photos  is primarily to  titillate heterosexual male viewers of a specific ilk  within the confines of some well worn and  predictable sexual fantasies.  I am not a prude, I enjoy nude and/or erotic photography.  When I look at this body of work I am not offended, I  am bored.


I believe that Luca cuts to the heart of matters with his comment    " My feeling about Igor's pictures is that they somehow reflect the stylised Soviet culture and its artistic expression."     I do see some significant amount of this type of portrayal coming out of the soviet bloc.


Setting aside the fact that I cannot find a single example of a concept or idea in Igor's photos that has not already been done to death by others, I will say that his exceptional technical skills, his mastery of light and his strong design and compositional talent shine through in his work, making many of his images absolutely top notch eye-candy for those predisposed to his particular style of nude photography.

TS Low
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...something about a camera...or artistic merit...or cliché....or...

Sorry, what was the middle one again?

John A
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Wow! I am on vacation and you guys have really gone to town on this one! I am surprised in some ways and maybe not in others.

I read much of the first part of this and find it interesting--but ran out of time and it got sort of redundant. This image didn't come across any more objectifying or demeaning than what anyone might attribute to any nude photograph, based on their own sensitivities. I mean, there are people that get upset or are sensitive to very minor things in certain areas.

Cliche? Sure, maybe in about every way. The choice of the model body type for nude photography is certainly cliche--and then the fact that it is a woman is pretty much the norm around here--and in photography in general. The scenario is also a bit cliche and I think the comment referring to the dog thing is maybe relevant in this respect. Jim is also right, I suppose, just a variation, but it is so predictable is what I feel about it--as is the reverse angle, which is a little more aggressive sexually I suppose!

As to the photo, it is just a sort of comical bit to me. Other than having a full tonal range, I really don't think it is all that great an image. There are imbalances throughout where the light was maybe not as controlled as it might have been. But those are nits and it works for what it is. Personally, I do find the image a take it or leave it sort of thing, and I feel it is more like an advertising illustration than an artistic piece (which is not to say that an advertising illustration couldn't be art!). I just feel this image is very superficial in every way-so, take it or leave it?

Fred G
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John-- Can you point specifically to some of the imbalances of light you're talking about?

jorge fernandez
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The image has its flows, however it attracts because of its originality and exotic presentation. The comments are entertaining and they make lots of sense. I do not take anything personal, I feel that those who get offended have to look at what they are projecting in their own pain and suffering! Congrats, it has attracted lots of comments.

robert speirs
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Some people will do anything in the name of art but i dont think you could call it that.

Lytton Martin
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Some people will do anything to get a woman's clothes off, even in the name of art.

John Crowe
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My original comment of six years ago still stands. I originally found the image "lighthearted", juxtaposing the idea of nudity for the sake of nudity and the base curiosity of the woman in the camera. I would simply like to expand on that idea. The naivete, wonderment, and curiosity of the woman explored in the image harkens back to the ape's encounter with the monolith in "2001: A Space Odyssey" and to the day in paradise when Eve took a bite of the apple.

Perhaps I am not well enough read, but I have never seen an image like this, so I find it very difficult to find it cliche.

Stephen Penland
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John's comment is a great illustration of what many mean by cliche and what many find offensive in this portion of Igor's photography: "The naivete, wonderment, and curiosity of the woman...." It's the depiction of women as naive creatures who are really worthwhile for only one duty, that of fulfilling the sexual desires and fantasies of males. This view of women as less intelligent and secondary in status to men is what launched the feminist movement decades ago. This type of photography only perpetuates the demeaning stereotype. Substitute a nude male in this pose -- now how do you see the photograph? Substitute a nude male and you may understand what this genre of nude photography is all about.

I had a great grandfather who, in his 90s, had the deep creases in his face that epitomizes a long life of hardship, toil, wisdom gained through experience, and even death that was not far away. His was the type of face that make a great character study and that many portrait photographers use to illustrate old age and the many aspects associated with individuals who have lived very long lives. I would have photographed my great grandfather for that purpose, and I would have felt proud to have his portrait for others to see.

I had a great grandmother who, in her final years, became a shell of her former self, with vacant and uncomprehending eyes, confined to a chair or bed, doing little more than waiting to die. Hers was a sad but natural condition, an inherent part of life that many go through as death approaches. A photograph of her at that point would have illustrated a significant aspect of the human condition, and the photo could have had great depth of meaning and poignancy if done by a capable photographer. Again, I would have liked to have seen her portrait done in this manner.

My own father had an exceptionally serious problem with alcohol in the mid years of his life. Drinking nearly killed him, and it showed in his expressionless eyes, jaundiced skin, disheveled appearance, and apparent lack of care about anything in the world. He literally lived in the gutter and could barely communicate with anyone or express anything about life other than alcohol. While it would have been painful, a portrait of him in that condition would have been a powerful expression of yet another aspect of the human condition, and I think he would have been a great subject for a portrait photographer who would want to communicate the pathos of alcoholism in his/her photography. Again, I would have seen some glimmer of purpose in his life in such a portrait, and I would have welcomed it. [Postscript: he found sobriety entirely on his own, became director of substance abuse programs for an entire state, reconnected with his family, lived a very productive life in his last decades, and I couldn't be more proud of his accomplishments.]

Now take Igor's depiction of women as he has photographed many of them (with this particular photo being one of the more mild expressions): naked in a decrepit basement of an abandoned building, naked with a large hook near her genitals, naked and in a frontal pose with spread legs and arched back that accentuates her genitals, naked and in a pose that shows nothing other than her genitals, naked and with props that hide her face and thereby remove her individuality and leave nothing but a sexual being (the most egregious example being a woman with a burlap bag over her head), and ask yourself: if the model had been your wife, your girlfriend, or your daughter, would you have been proud of the photograph? Would you still have the same admiration for this type of erotic photography? Would that photograph be on your favorites page? The answer to these questions may illustrate what many find offensive and degrading in this type of nude photography. It's a stereotypical depiction of women in bondage, in sado-masochistic poses, as nothing more than a physical fantasy for viewers who may find pleasure in such images on their computer screens.

IMHO, of course.

To be fair to Igor, many of my comments and my views regarding his photographs of nude women are based on his portfolio and not on this single image. If you don't think that's legit, then this can be yet another reason to dismiss my comments. In the past, a POW has led viewers to the photographer's portfolio, and comments have addressed the body of work (no pun intended) as much as the POW. So I don't think I'm off base in this regard.

Sorry, but I just can't lavish the praise for this photograph and this type of photography that others are able to provide. There is just too much going on with people and in the world for me to find this type of erotic photography interesting or inspirational.

Zsolt Andras Szabo
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a masterpiece from every point of view, technically and artistically too.
great concept and imagination, i mean this to the whole portfolio not just this image. a high quality artistic work, very high above the other similar works, in my opinion. a huge 7/7.

Trisha Jean-Angela
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Jorge - Those of us who are offended by this man's type of photography do indeed take a look at our own pain and suffering...we have no choice but being reminded when we are bombarded with images such as these that serve no purpose but to degrade women and perpetuate violence toward them via his idea of "eroticism". Just look at the other images in his portfolio if you cannot make the connection as to why people are offended...it is his whole body of work and mind set that is so disturbing. As Stephen above said so eloquently, if this were your wife, girlfriend, sister, daughter of grand-daughter in these photos would you still be impressed? I'll take it one step further...if it were your wife, girlfriend, sister, daughter or grand-daughter that was the victim of sexual assault by a man who subscribed to Igor's view of eroticism...would you still think these images to be exotic and entertaining? Heaven help you if you do!

Jon Hallberg
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Where is all this talk of degrading women coming from? The picture we are discussing (or just cussing) seems to depict the relationship of women (at least some women, certainly not your sister, mother, etc.), with the camera.

From the very beginnings of photography, unclad ladies have been happy to be photographed. The model in this case is eye to eye with the unblinking eye of the camera and in every way seems its equal. In fact she seems more at ease than the frozen, dumb struck camera.

In the image were she is turned around, no longer an equal, her value is not in her sweet and engaging person hood but her utility.

Stephen Penland
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Jon, the model may not be your sister, but she could be someone's sister. She is certainly her mother's and father's daughter. For generations, some women have been exchanging sex (sometimes happily, sometimes not so happily) for money; not sure if that really makes it "good." Finally, I guess this is the one all about "utility:" http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2599153. What a concept: a young woman described and photographed in terms of "utility." Don't you see anything degrading in that concept?

Andrew Meszaros
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Photography does not exist in a vacuum. It represents images of things familiar to us from real life. And the same sensitivities that apply in real life apply to photography. If something is vulgar and indecent in real life, it is also vulgar and indecent in photography. You can’t hide behind “art”. The bottom line does not change.

Rebecca L
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I'm cynical about most nudes but when they go the extra mile of this kind of pose up on a stand like she's about to be frisked by a judge at a dog show, I can't even pretend that I'm taking the artist's "vision" seriously. The image as a whole is too weak for me, anyway. I think marrying the ambiguous nature of his message/image with the strong response her pose elicits is a mistake; I have no idea what the artist wants me to see and the image offends me.

L R
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Samme, Rebecca, Trisha, Stephen,

it's a tough debate on female nudes.

I realise that many women, and some men, have a negative feeling about these types of work, and this should be respected. I would like to have their point of view on shots - other than this - which would rather belong into an anatomy book than in a portfolio.

On the other hand it seems that the general trend is to push the limit farther and farther.
There seems to be a huge "market" for female nude pictures, however they are. Just look at the number of views, at the high ratings and at the enthusiastic praises nudes receive here. The first two "most interesting photographers" here on photo.net are shooting mainly nude women. It must be said that most "praisers" are men.
It also must be said that apparently, female models (in this case) are willing to be part of the play. I would frankly hesitate to say that they are all victims.

On the other hand, any time anybody would refer to things like "taste", "morality", "ethics", "objectification", a whole lot of reactions would arise, claiming "artistic freedom" and speaking against any critic remark.

Me personally, I think that only a very, very small fraction of nude photos deserve real attention because of their visual message.
Most of them are simple and plain repetitions of photos done before, or simply a provocation.

As to this particular photo, I have a very simple "acid test": imagine it enlarged, 1m x 1m (or 3ft x 3ft). Presented on a white wall with nothing around.
How many glances would you "waste" in for it?
My own answer is "very, very few".
And the second question would be: how much of the visual message of the photo is due to the photographer and how much to the subject portrayed?

That said, photography, and nude photography reflects the cultures and societies we are in.

I believe that it is a free world. Censorship is very dangerous. But, on the other hand, it is necessary to speak up in favour of taste and against the presentation of photographic subjects as mere "objects for use".

Kemal Kamil AKCA
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shoot me...creative and nice idea..i enjoy this..cong. bw

Dougity B
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Gordon, what I meant by "strong" was more like self-confidence.

Anton Harding
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This is an approved quoting of a discussion with a painter and printmaker. Me first '...it's not outrageous'.
'However technically and formalistically clever, I think it is outrageous. It's UGLY. It's offensive! She's placed there like an animal on heat and it's deliberate demeaning.'
'Anybody who has had any professional training in photography or media studies knows what that's about.'

Dougity B
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I don't know how to express my disappointment with this conversation.

Paul Thomas
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I refute thusly the commentator who stated that this image makes the woman look like an animal in heat.

Most animals are in heat seasonally. We are unique among the animals in that we are in heat all the time. Therefore it is an accurate depiction of the human condition.

To those that say this is degrading, I say balderdash. The nude feminine form in a receptive posture can never be degrading.

Now if she was covered by a burqua, that would be degrading.

Rebecca L
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The nude feminine form in a receptive posture can never be degrading.

It can never be degrading to you because you're a man. But for anyone who recognizes in this image the continued dominance of the heterosexual male's gaze preferred, i.e. "nude feminine form in a receptive posture," representation of the (thin, white, blonde) female, this pose only strengthens the belief that a woman's value lies in her sexuality and that is DEGRADING.

Michael Chang
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Depictions of nudity has been around for centuries through various forms. The question is, must art nudes be socially acceptable in it time? Or is it simply an artist's vision working with the nude human form without regard to political correctness?

I like Doug's comment of Jun 24, 2010; 06:41 a.m.

Rebecca L
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I just bring up her physical appearance because it's often considered the beauty norm in the context of the Western and arguably world media. That fact that it is again represented here as such reinforces my opinion that this image is for the sexual gratification of the heterosexual male and little else. If her appearance had deviated from this norm I don't think it would be any less offensive, no. If she had been black, up on a table and in this position I believe the demeaning nature of this pose wouldn't have been as easily ignored because she would no longer be considered a sexual object. But then, if she looked like Precious I very much doubt this picture would have been taken at all.

As far as men being the dominant sex...I don't even know where to begin.

Rebecca L
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"...If she had been black, *overweight, up on a table..."
I can't edit it anymore!

Stephen Penland
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"The nude feminine form in a receptive posture can never be degrading."
If she's turned around and the camera is looking up her butt, is that degrading? -- she's still in a "receptive" posture. If she's holding a hoist hook as if to sink it into her genitals, is that degrading? -- she's still in a "receptive" posture. If she's tied up in a derelict basement, naked, with a burlap bag tied over her head, it that degrading? -- she's still in a "receptive" posture. If she is seen as nothing but genitalia, is that degrading? -- what little is shown of her is still in a "receptive" posture.

The next logical argument is that the nude masculine form, in an aggressive posture, is an equally valid art form, yet it so very seldom shows up on the photo forums. Are we just being sexist? Why is it o.k. to show a nude female in every contorted pose imaginable, yet similar treatment of males never graces the pages? Is it because males would find that degrading? Or would "we" say that's just our culture's preference, that's the way it's always been, that's what "we" find acceptable and unacceptable..... with "we" being males who have dominated this culture since the beginning?

The nude feminine form in a receptive posture can never be degrading. "We" have so very far to go.

Andrew Meszaros
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I say this is smut, and I wish people would stop trying to censor me and accuse me of being a prude, or a puritan or of projecting my own insecurities or pain, or whatever else. I am making a valued judgment just as valid as anyone else on this thread. You don’t agree with it? Get over it. Not everyone is going to congratulate the “artist” for his “vision” on this one. I call it as I see it. To me this is smut. Technically well done smut.

Paul Thomas
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"Receptive" implies "consent".

Those posters that wax effluent with pontifications on the negative meaning of "receptive" do not understand the meaning of the word. Anyone (male or female) forced to do anything, is not receptive, and therefore not consenting.

I submit that nothing between consenting adults is offensive. Some persons fantasies simply may not be your cup of tea. I also submit that it's a very short journey between the censor's pen and the burqua.

Andrew Meszaros
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Paul:
What happens between consenting adults is outside the realm of this discussion. Here we are discussing an image presented in a public forum. Not everything that takes place privately between consenting adults is suitable for a public forum.

Rebecca L
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I don't think she's not consenting. That has nothing to do with whether or not the treatment of the subject is degrading. You can consent to be degraded. And no one is suggesting women need to or should turn to burqas (I don't know why that's even been brought up). In fact, I really don't see much of a difference between taking degrading photos of naked women for the benefit of men's sexual "fantasies" and popping a burqa on them. Just two sides of the same male hegemony coin, really.

Neither of which I'm interested in seeing depicted in a photo with no clear meaning.

Paul Thomas
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Rebecca:

You say degradation, I say celebration. It's likely we'll never agree on this.

For what it's worth, there are nude pictures of me in existence (relaxing in hot springs out in the wilds of Idaho) and I don't consider myself degraded or objectified by them. I just like being naked in nature, and I don't mind being depicted that way. If there was a forum on photo.net for "50ish Nature Freaks in the Buff", I would happily post there.

So if models like posing for these types of pictures, it's just them being them. There's really no difference, except perhaps they make more money at it, and their pictures are much more flattering.

As for whether this image is suitable for a public forum, for me, that's a resounding yes. The very fact that there has been a spirited discussion about it's merits (or lack thereof) makes it valuable.

Dougity B
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What is the sexual fantasy in this picture? It escapes me.
The reason this woman is in the photograph, as opposed to an older, fatter and flabbier woman, is that she looks better. She photographs better. A human female in her physical prime would look very much like this. An unhealthy human female of the same age might be flabby, or have scraggled, dull hair. These are physical cues to health and fitness, and that's why attractive people (models) are generally preferred for photography: because they look better, and that signals physical health and well being, and that signals a positive and prosperous future.
For those who wish to pursue the sexual fantasy aspect they see in this photograph, consider that the woman is not a sexual choice in the sense of the act of sexual intercourse, but instead a sexual choice in the sense of procreation. Forgive me, and every other human being whose ever had a sexual fantasy involving someone young and beautiful, but I'm pretty sure homo sapiens would be extinct if we men went around horny for older women.
Turning to Igor's other work, who are we to judge the WHY of his art? For all we know, he's working through some inner conflict that finds its therapeutic expression in these visualizations. The models too, who, according to some studies I've heard of, may have experienced earlier psychological trauma, are perhaps finding their expression and comfort by participating in these works, where they have a degree of control. Maybe willful participation in these works gives them a sense of worth? Who are we to judge them? The human psyche is unfathomably complex. If making those images, and this one, brings a better sense of self-understanding to either Igor, or his models, what's wrong with that.
I don't know who I'm (mis)quoting here, but when asked why he (or she) photographs [any subject], the reply was, "Because therapy is too expensive"
And finally, while not gospel, Shakespeare's "for there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so" is a phrase worthy of continued reflection.

Rebecca L
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Paul, I'm happy to agree to disagree and I also agree that this photo is very suitable for discussion! It does bring up a lot of interesting topics (I guess I'll give it points there) that, if you can't tell, I do like debating!

I hope you'll indulge one last question: You don't mind being photographed nude but would you feel as comfortable posing like the naked woman in this photo, to be posted for public consumption on this site? If not, I hope you'll consider why this particular presentation of you and your body is unacceptable in your mind but acceptable in this young girl's mind. If you would...then do your thing. :)

Paul Thomas
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Rebecca:

As an amateur, I am comfortable being photographed in settings and poses that are natural for me. Male receptive is not natural for me, but it's natural for a lot of men, and for a far greater number of women.

As a professional model, I might entertain the possibility of posing in a more contrived manner that is a little outside my comfort zone. How much money are we talking about, anyway?

Rebecca L
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"...because they look better...and that signals a positive and prosperous future..."

The better women look, the happier and more successful they'll be in life. Thank god that's not true for men and they get to rely on their brains and ambition, or Bill Gates sure would have been in one hell of a pickle.

"...but I'm pretty sure homo sapiens would be extinct if we men went around horny for older women..."

Aren't barren and unnattractive women useless? God, I just wish they would stop existing, all those shrews do is hamper the menfolk's noble work of propagating our species!

"Maybe willful participation in these works gives them a sense of worth?"

Is there any more rewarding feeling for a woman than being sexually objectified in this day and age? And is there any better way to deal with possible trauma then taking off all your clothes and being made in a faceless, selfless object with which to procreate? Not that I can think of!

You're part of the problem and your opinions are offensive. Good day.

Rebecca L
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Paul, I promise you'll make the same wages as the ladies (or at least 77% of what they get paid)! But if all you get paid in is saucy compliments, I can't help ya.

Paul Thomas
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While it's true that most men (including me) are visually hardwired to prefer nubile young women, it's also true that mature and sophisticated men love and appreciate their life partners, and Love Trumps Lust. At least in my case it does.

Well, that's enough philosophy for one evening. Let's get back to criticizing the picture on it's merits, shall we?

And Rebecca, if you don't like what you read or see, you're welcome to go elsewhere.

Rebecca L
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Ditto Paul.

Eduardo Agustin Carrasco
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very good shoot and idea

Jan W. Tromp
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It seems that there are viewers (mostly USA?) that are offended by images of and with nude females (I can only guess how they would feel about nude males). I think it's already a sign that one can choose in this forum to see images with or without nudes.
My advise to those is to please stay away and study the subject of the history photography first. Maybe that will cure them, I hope so. Recently I saw in a German magazine a series of photo's by Erwin Olaf, a great professional photographer. That series can also be viewed on the website <http://www.erwinolaf.com/> under 'hotel'. These are great images but not for people that want to ban or moderate and want us to believe that nudity is a 'sin':-)

Michael Chang
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Thanks for the link to Erwin Olaf'd work, Jan. They are terrific photos and definitely worth viewing.
<Clickable link>

Andrew Meszaros
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Jan:
My advice to you: if you don't like other people's comments, (mostly from the US) then please stay away from them and go read something else.

Rita Putatunda
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I'm somewhat bemused by some of the comments made here about the woman being "strong" in this picture. A faceless woman down on her hands and knees peering into a camera is strong? In what sense? This woman has as much presence and individuality as a woman covered from head to toes in a burqua, chador... with only a pair of eyes peering through a slit in the cloth. The depersonalisation is the same. Would a man in a similar pose also be considered "strong"? This picture is provocative, yes, but strong - no. And certainly it is dehumanising, objectifying, and demeaning. As for all the so-called "technical prowess" supposedly portrayed... I don't find anything particularly spectacular...

Gordon JB
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Jan;
 
Thanks so much for trying to educate us ignorant North Americans about art. So do all people who do not share your views suffer from some sort of knowledge based deficiency or just us non-Europeans?
 
The issue being discussed here, whether either of us agrees or disagrees, is not about nudity in art but rather about  the depiction of women in violent and degrading situations.  I do not see the wonderful work of  Erwin Olaf as violent sadomasochistic sexual fantasy expressly conceived to arouse men.  I have no trouble making a distinction between the two,  but then maybe that's just one of those North American things.

Dougity B
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Rebecca, don't judge me so fast. You'll notice a lot of question marks in my post. I'm not pretending to have the answers to anything here, just bringing up possible motivations. And your reply landed on dramatic conclusions that I don't agree with. For example, "Aren't barren and unnattractive women useless? God, I just wish they would stop existing," is an over the top exaggeration. We're not talking about personal worth here, but aesthetic worth in a visual medium.

Dougity B
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but I can see how my comments would be offensive, and I apologize for that. it's not easy to express oneself on this topic without stepping on toes here or there.

Jon Hallberg
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These are not portraits. The model is playing a part. I see no exploitation (except in the political sense, i.e. Communism) but rather collaboration, the photographer and models seem to be working together on some sort of photo essay.

Unless there is some reason for it I'm not sure that the models motives for taking their clothes off is the issue, but this is not exactly blunt force Eros.

If the model where clothed then it would be a photo about fashion or some other such thing. Here it is about Woman, not this woman, not your mother or sister, perhaps Russian women, for whom the model is representative.

If it were an old woman it would have another meaning entirely, like the effects of a repressive society on self image. This is a flower growing in the junk yard of a failed system.

This not a coherent statement, (the photos taken as a whole), more like a notebook than a finished and bound book. Ideas tossed about, insight and rambling.

Trying to force it back into the mind set of half of a century or more in the past is hardly fair, and is in fact the polar opposite of where this seems headed. Does the model have to be soft focused, standing next to a draped Roman column and holding a water pitcher for it to be art?

The model in the once fearsome icon of the Hammer and Sickle. Freedom is a wonderful thing.

Thomas Dupont
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Love it. Woman has the body of a greyhound race dog. Beautiful.

Raymond Borg
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Outstanding image. Great composition and excellent use of lighting. I can see all the range of tones. Congrats.

Stephen Penland
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I wish we would hear from Igor Amelkovich about his photo (and the portfolio that has been mentioned in many of the postings). I'd be interested in knowing what he wants to convey in his photos, what has influenced his individual style, and his reactions to some of the general comments (positive and negative) on this POW. That always seems to round out the discussion on the POW, and I think it would give all of us more understanding of this particular photo.

I really like Igor's portrait folder. I'm struck that the mood in all of the subjects is somewhat serious. I'd like to know why he seems to choose that particular expression, and if he thinks that photographic tendency has been translated in some way in his "Nude and Erotic" folder.

Michael Chang
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Stephen, this is a quote from Igor taken from his 'How do I do this' page:
"My film style is not a reporting. Within limits of one shot I express what is formed in my brains."

Maybe it's best that Igor lets the picture speak for itself.

Dan Bliss
Response to Shoot me! by Igor Amelkovich While the opinions may differ, one thing is clear. The Elves picked a good photo for discussion. It has been fun watching the many comments. I still like the photo a lot, but I enjoyed seeing the critiques too. I think different people expect different things from photos particularly when nudes are involved. I don't mind that I am not learning about her as a person. It is not a portrait. It is also not particularly erotic. Not that there is anything wrong with that. I don't see the photo as a commentary on the strength of women, or their objectification. Here, for me, the model presents shapes and textures that serve as a counterpoint to the wonderful old camera. It is more like the meeting of two alien species (as I have said before). But, maybe I view images differently. In any case, I have enjoyed all the discussion, and once again I thank Igor for sharing his photo with us. -Dan

Gerry Siegel Honolulu
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I still like it also, Dan. Not as an Igor manifesto, just a composition. I still see the model (who is looking for a dropped contact lens perhaps, just kidding) as a prop for the sexy bellows camera and dimpled elevation wheel with spokes and hardwood stand. Something,that view camera, a gizmo that the young ones will one day say, hey what is that, Gramps...they won't ask about the blonde.

Mark Greyson
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Nice photo aesthetically but the dumb blonde insinuation, looking stupidly into the camera lens is disturbing to me.

joe casey
Response to Shoot me! by Igor Amelkovich

Cliche? PFHT! It's a HOT model... of what we can see of her staring into a big, old camera lens. Were she riding the camera... that would be a different story. Personally, I love nudes when they are of women! As Jack Nicholson said in A Few Good Men, "There's nothing sexier than a woman you have to salute in the morning". Amen! The female form, in a... lean manner (referring to women that don't require help from Jenny Craig)... ahem! It's hot! There's nothing sexier, as the engineers at most auto plants will tell you. Many cars have been designed around the female form. Ladies, my hat's off to you. God put woman on this earth for one main reason, to give a man something to smile about and his heart beat and this photo induces a light adrenal increase and would make any straight man smile. Hell I know gay guys that would think this photo is hot! The image, while crude and lacking better props or better composition gets extra credit for the fact that the model (main subject here) is nude, but not fully exposed, thus leaving something to the imagination and that is why I make this my PIC OF THE WEEK.

joe casey
Response to Shoot me! by Igor Amelkovich

Igor, question buddy, is this film or enhanced digital?

Igor Amelkovich
Shoot me! I have found application of this antiques.

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