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110924 Grand Teton 1 005 CS5 M


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Exposure Date: 2011:09:24 05:59:28;
Make: Canon;
Model: Canon EOS 5D Mark II;
ExposureTime: 4 s;
FNumber: f/11;
ISOSpeedRatings: 100;
ExposureProgram: Manual;
ExposureBiasValue: 0;
MeteringMode: Pattern;
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode;
FocalLength: 60 mm;
Software: Adobe Photoshop CS5 Windows;


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Beautiful light and colors at an iconic location.  The color in the foreground really helps to break up what would otherwise be a pretty dark green.  You were there at a perfect time.

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I like this place it is a real photographic resource and you did a great job with this series both lighting wise and DOF, the details are amazing and so fine while the colors are of very vivid nature, the river path across the place is also very appealing and of great add to the composition here.

 

Thank you for sharing it my friend and wishing you all of the best.

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Hi Wanghan,

Again a nice scene capture.

Technically, the use of F/11 with te 60mm lens resulted in much loss in the definitiion across the entire scene. There is not any subject appearing sharp.

Next time try F/4 or F/5.6.

Also, it would be nice to be able to enlarge your image. I suggest at least 1024X768 as the dimensions to post your images. I normally target 1600X1200.

Best Regards,  Mike

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Hi Wanghan,

This is one of the most interesting creations of this scene that I have seen.  As Stephen said,  you capture the color and light really well.  The fall colors are a wonderful addition, and the way they are set off by the blue is terrific.  The fog adds mood in addition.  This is a winner that Ansel Adams - who may have been one of the first to create this as a photographic icon - would approve.   Best regards.  Larry

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Everybody loves them, but you know, this is PhotoNet, and you should be worried if everybody loves them.  I wish you'd try processing them a lot, a lot, a lot more gently.  Your photos are wonderful, but you process them so hard that they look like postcards, and not even very subtle postcards.  Just my opinion, Dude.  best, j

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Jamie, that's an interesting comment, and I'd like to understand it better.

As for all or most of the comments being positive on a given photo, I think that's a self-selection process.  Most folks are much more willing so say something positive than something negative.  From my experience, if no comments or very few comments are left, that amounts to an overall negative comment.  I wish reviewers would be more up-front and honest, but I think it's just human nature to be reluctant to criticize in an on-going, public forum like this.  One has to sometimes read between the lines to get the true message.

As for "processing hard," I have to admit I don't know what you mean by that.  It is my guess that Wanghan's photo looks very much like he saw it with his eyes.  I think (but I'm not certain) that the sharpness and color saturation are true to life.  If significant amounts of saturation are added and the image begins to pop off the screen more than it would in real life, is this what you mean by "processing hard?"

As an aside, sometimes increased saturation is not done directly but is a side product of adjusting levels or, less frequently, color temperature or exposure.  That is often a problem for me when I shoot in RAW, because it is often difficult to remember exactly what the scene looked like -- how yellow were the yellows, how green were the greens, and so on.  I have a feeling that many times my photos don't match what I saw with my eyes, even though that is usually my goal.

 

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I think there's a great picture in there, and I think Wanghan worked hard to get it.  The processing doesn't just ruin the picture for me, though.  It makes the picture unrealistic in a schmaltzy way.  Unrealistic is ok, but I believe it should be unrealistic in a new way, a way that hasn't been beaten to death ever since colour photography was invented; genetically perfected by Walt Disney.  I suppose that's why, for me, the excessive processing also drains all of the emotional content.  best, jamie

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I agree entirely with what you say.  I guess the difference is you see this happening in Wanghan's photo of the Tetons, but I don't.  Maybe it's on the edge, and it falls one one for one of us and the other way for the second person.

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Fabulous scene and photo. If you bring up the levels command and then click on the middle eye dropper (gray) then click that eye dropper on the gravel stones in the bottom right, the color balance changes for the entire scene. See if you like the result.  all the very best,

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I hope Wanghan likes our little discussion.  For me, this is the best one, but the river still seems to have been taken from a different picture.  It pops out in an almost 3D way.  best, j

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