Published: Thursday 17th of April 2003 02:42:31 AM
Magnificent and incredibly original.
Awesome! Very beautifully done from an original perspective.
Jorge M. Treviño
Are the colors for real? I have seen this ruin a lot of times. Many of the greats have photographed this place; Adams, Sexton... However, this is the first time I've seen it in color. Wow! It looks like a bonfire. Did you enhance he colors digitally? I find difficult to believe such saturation and brilliance. Even if it's been done many times, what a great picture.
It was shot with Velvia. Maybe 1/3 f-stop underexposed. No color push in Photoshop. The upper left corner was burned slightly to focus the viewpoint to the center of the flames. Many people would consider Velvia chemically enhanced color. :-)
Ken Williams ...
Very nice Miles ..............
Icould not stop thinking that was a bon fire...great shot. PK.
I like the fact that the dark area on the lower left wedges the viewpoint up into the image towards the fire. I could lighten it to expose more detail but that would fight the composition as I view it.
Wow.. great colors and structure and texture. wonderful. like the stones are in fire. well seen! Biliana
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I've seen a lot of photos of this place, and have even been there (once). Never have I seen a more dramatic and awesomely beautiful capture. Kudos.
I absolutly love it.
Building on Fire I thought it was, at least! Nice, very nice. I need to try velvia sometime.
Heat Miser Reminds one of the Bass/Rankin animated character Heat Miser from The Year Without a Santa Claus, (1974), no?
comment Very good , keep up the good work
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker Canyon de Chelly, Mesa Verde, or Chaco Culture where is this? I hope you can tell us, seems from the above discusion that this is a well known location. Where ever they are the Anasazi Ruins are well worth a trip to see. This one would look great in large format. Could the forground be improved?
Red Rock + Velvia THIScombination is already very popular, too popular and as the whole 4 corners area has been displayed with hardly increaseable saturation the only original way to present this would be black and white, if, if, well if not the big dead master AA hadn't already done this decades ago. Tough situation. I like the pic however for its not so run-of-the-mill depiction of the ruins and of course the illumination bonfire effect, but still it doesn't speak to me, not a bit. If this were my shot I'd be happy but not proud and would feel uneasy with the nagging feeling that I didn't live up to my expectations and the opportunity
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker Stunning ankle. I love this picture.
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker I think this is a photo that will invite many more photographers to show what they can do with the ruins should they be the ones to hold the camera. Personally, I find it explosive with the feel of the southwest. It screams at me to come back and do more. In fact, I would like to see the exact photo done in black & white to see what play the shadows would perform for us. Of course, the time of day would be different, yes?, and the lighting on the lower section would be different, but still a wonderful challenge. Don't you agree? For all of us critics who feel the overall best is not achieved yet, I say, GO FOR IT! Take up the challenge and do your best. I will look forward to seeing all the effort posted for everyone to view and appreciate. As for this photo by Miles Hecker, I say, "Well done, my friend!" "Well done!"
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker This is a well-done capture of (for me) a now familiar subject. Michael arranged to be on location at the right time for the reflected light. I would appreciate some lightening of the foreground. The flames could be accentuated from a closer viewpoint and wider lens (difficult with MF). The ruins are leaning back just enough to be distracting. Although this shot has been published by numerous well known photographers (Muench, Sexton,...), no one has managed to capture this place successfully. This photo - like my own - is high saturation reportage and does not capture the feeling of majesty *I* felt when at this site. The site is about more than the striata (flames). The image is a good capture of another South Western "oddity", no-more, no-less. Finally, please could all visitors to this and similar sites observe proper site etiquette? These structures are fragile and unprotected, and their decline is noticeably accelerating with increasing visitation. It is easy for visitors to brush walls with backpacks, weakening the structure etc.
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker The angle is perfect. This is one of the more dramatic photos that I have seen of this familiar landmark.
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker I have a similar print on my wall here at home that I shot last summer (also on Velvia) with my Pentax 67II. I shot about 3 rolls at this ruin on a broiling hot day in late June about mid-day, which provided almost perfect and very even bounced light. It's one of my favorite shots- but here I was thinking that I had discovered something relatively new.....
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker The thing that I always enjoy about these cliff dwellings and the like is that it shows people in harmony with nature, perhaps even a part of it.
Mark B Bartosik
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker I like the colors and 'fire' concept but I would like to see a little different balance of the photo. This place in fact is photographed quite often and very similar prints are offer for sale taken from the same spot in Mule Canyon, Cedar Mesa. The main attraction of Mule Canyon is the Anasazi Indian ruins that can be seen under the cliffs on the north side of the canyon. The Mule Canyon dwellings were built and occupied by the Anasazis about 1200 A.D. The ruins have never been excavated or restored. I don't understand why people say they know where it is but don't answer the posted question for exact location.
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker Truly awesome! A photo of the week that is awe inspiring and taken with real film in a real camera AND with no manipulation! Wonderful!
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker This is an amazing place! At first sight, i really thought it was taken by a Fireman ! I like the colour and the proportion of "flame" compared with the "house". I have also had a chance to look at the author's other images, i'm really impressed with the use of "Velvia" !
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker Splendid! The cliff seems fire!!
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker Unbelieveable! Fire or stone? Great done.
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker Intense, bright, eye-catching. In those respects, surely this picture accomplishes the maker's intent. The composition emphasizes an upward flow of the striations in the rock very successfully, as well, reinforcing the firy feel to the bright colors and lines. Though I like the balance of shapes, I do find the lower left area a little dark and it feels like the color is slightly shifted in those shadow areas. I don't doubt that this is faithful to the slide, but here it would benefit (just my opinion, of course) from a little judicious dodging and a slight adjustment to the color balance to bring it more in line with the top part of the image. Having recently shot many frames in Bryce Canyon, I feel little inclined to condemn Miles for having taken a shot in a recognizable place. Enjoy.
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The thing that I always enjoy about these cliff dwellings and the like is that it shows people in harmony with nature, perhaps even a part of it.I have read that the inhabitants of at least one such southwestern cave-ruins culture used up their natural resources and moved on.
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker The effect in this shot is stronger than the subject. Some like this, others don´t. For me, it simply looks amazing! Very good!
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker An excellent visual experience----the image "fools the eye" at first glance. Just one question, "Without being "corrected" in Photoshop (and I'm sure it wasn't), and being shot on film (which I'm sure it was), just how can ANYONE criticize this shot?" He got it in the NEGATIVE!
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker Interesting commentary. This is a spectacular capture of these Anasazi ruins. The only criticism I would render would be to wish for this to be a 4X5 (yeah, I would like to have one--in my dreams).
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker While I find this a beautiful photograph It does not knock my socks off as have many past POW. I find the focus a tad soft on the dwellings and Perhaps a Haze filter would of helped it get that extra spark of life that seams to just draw my eye to a photo. Still I would of been proud to have taken it.
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker Lovely photograph, although I feel that some of the highlights are a bit burnt. Of course this may be the fault of my monitor. Since art and politics have been bedfellows for so long, I must raise the point of national treasures being lost to tourism (photo, eco, or plain old tourists). Ayres Rock, Stonehenge, the Columbia Icefields (Jasper, Alberta), and Yosemite have all enacted procedures to limit the impact of people on these national treasures. The conundrum, which I have not solved, is similar to the Zoo question, i.e. take the animals from the wild to display for the public, or leave where they are? This specific site is becoming overrun with photographers, and will soon be impacted like Antelope Canyon has been. Still, the photograph is a grand one, and I must acknowledge the talented photographer who created this work.
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker Great Pic, Miles!!! I just want to say that I find the disscussion about how popular the subject is or if the great masters had done it before, pointless!!! No picture is the same. Some are good, some are bad. But to stop shooting something, for example, the Statue of Liberty, because is a popular spot, makes me think that maybe the photographer is hiding a "bad eye" and lack of imagination behind "new" and "unseen" subjects. Just the "novelty" will save his/her work.
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker Good eye of the photographer + Velvia + Medium Format (the wonderful Pentax 645n ) ... that's ALL. I'm sure you'll don't touch it in photoshop, no resize...no enhacing... no burning... no...digital manipulation. This is, simply, Photography. regards and compliments
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker Where are my sunglasses? Oh, here they are. Now I can see. Hey, nice photo. Maybe you could up the color sat a bit in PS. Other than that, great shot.
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker Not many times I've given two 7's on a photo. Very well done. Been a long time since I've seen a photo handled this well from start to finish.
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker I'm glad that people have enjoyed discussing this image as it IMO gives much food for thought. My feeling is that its an interesting image and one that speaks well for the site. But not one of my best from the Southwest.
In that sense I agree with Bernhard's comment above.
This is a tough image to make work Vertically. I do indeed wish I had a LF camera and could have used tilt as Paul suggested above.
To understand why this is so see Cedar Mesa ruins
About 99% of the images produced here are in landscape format. If you visit the link above you will see why. The front left of the image is 1 foot from the camera, the bottom right is about 20 feet away. To create this image I focused on the flames and shot at f22. The illusion of a bonfire is pretty amazing. It took me several hours of composing to get it right. My hats off to David Muench who first saw this shot. A true master of composition and shots with incredible depth of field.
If you are wondering what IMO is my best image from the Southwest is I've inserted it below.
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker I like how the bright firey colors really draw me into the top half of the photo. I wonder if the photo could of be improved even more by cutting off more of the dark area at the bottom. The amount of the dark area seems a little too much. I also did like someone's suggestion that it may look interesting if the photo was shown as black and white.
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker Um...ok,i may look stupid here but i must say what's the big deal?
Yes technically rather interesting but it just looks like a bad painting.I tried to like it.....
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker Hi Miles, and congratulations on this POW. I find it truly great, though I wish you had taken this picture with a slightly wider angle. On the other hand, I have no clue what as on your left and on your right, nor in front, so this suggestion of mine might in fact be completely off - sorry if that is the case.
This being said, like you, these "Totems" image striked me long ago as the very best picture you have uploaded here. Best regards, and congratulations again.
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker My first response was negative. To me, too, it looked like a gaudy painting or an over-tweaked photographic image. But the more I looked the more I liked the image--to the point where I like it very much. It speaks to me of a culture that's disappeared but left an aura. I know this sounds excessively mystical, but the image also speaks to me of shamanic rites around a fire. And indeed, rock can be changed into fire by the sun. Bravo!
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker Congratulations, Miles, on having this image selected for the photo of the week. It's really very good. If I had to criticize it in any way -- and I'm inclined not to -- I'd say that the darker area in the extreme lower left distracts me a bit; not because it's too dark, but because it almost has too much detail. But I can't give any concrete suggestions about how I would change it without changing the overall feel, which I like.
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker Missing image from above post.
Response to Anasazi Ruins by Miles Hecker a perfect picture ! magnifique image-idee