olli.pekonen 0 Posted June 22, 2010 the interplay between the chair (the black nails) and the model is great. Good relaxed pose, yet the eyes of the model are almost piercing and seem to see through the one watching. Link to comment
elvagabundoviejo 0 Posted June 22, 2010 For my part, cutting off her head leaves me cold. Including the arm of the chair seems counterproductive (distracting) when you could have included the top of the head instead --unless of course, he cropped it this way in the frame. I wonder. The skin on the face seems blotchy, there's hair under her left eye, and the left arm...Sometimes I get the impression that Mr. Peri does this kind of thing deliberately to see if he can provoke a negative response... Link to comment
John Peri 1,007 Posted June 22, 2010 I'm a little confused by the you, he and Mr Peri. According to the custom on PN, I'll address you as Lance.Delighted with what you call your "negative response" Lance, but you flatter me and possibly some of the viewers too (sic) by imagining that I crop my photos deliberately, as you suggest, in order to provoke a reaction.Indeed I do experiment sometimes, the last photo posted was heavily cropped also, some of us here like to experiment in order to try and improve on our work and see if we can increase the impact. The original full frame version exists and if I find it, I will post it below to let people compare. That is what we are here for. Link to comment
John Peri 1,007 Posted June 22, 2010 Please see my reply to Mark Harris's remark yesterday about cropping ..http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11160590 Link to comment
elvagabundoviejo 0 Posted June 22, 2010 John, thanks for clearing up my confusion.Yes! Experiment! I suppose that in the end it comes down to personal preference. The photo in question simply left me wondering.How do you measure impact? I've come to think of it as "Wow, I wish I'd done that," or getting a "Wow" when someone glances at one of my photos for the first time. I'm still learning of course, and the great thing about Photo.net is the variety of subjects and stunning photos from which to learn.I will be very interested in seeing what other photographers think of the photo over time. Link to comment
John Peri 1,007 Posted June 23, 2010 Thank you Lance. by "impact" in this context, I mean reinforcing the image by bringing out the expression. Here is another example in which this is lost in the full frame photo that includes the hat and waistline. Link to comment
JPPhoto1664880217 2 Posted June 23, 2010 Your original image has a much stronger emotional impact on the viewer. I attribute this to both the crop and eye contact the model makes with the camera. This is significantly different from most of the glamour images seen today because it emphasizes the eyes.As I have said before, this emphasis on the face and eyes is present in the majority of your work, and I personally like it a great deal. Jim Phelps Link to comment
mbh 0 Posted June 23, 2010 Excellent photograph in terms of lighting and black and white tones. I loved the discussion as it developed, it educated me a bit in terms of your choices and how to think about cropping. In this case, for me, the crop did not bother me before I read the critiques or after. I feel it places my focus very strongly on the girl's face and eyes and from there I wander down to the texture of her dress, the way it fits her form and then the detail of the chair. Beautiful work. Link to comment
John Peri 1,007 Posted June 23, 2010 Thanks Jim, Mark, it's nice to get different people's opinion on th matter .. admittedly I do feel also that cropping in such cases can accentuate the look .. now whether one has done it well or nor is for others to decide .. Link to comment
juan carlos rivera 0 Posted June 24, 2010 I prefer the complete one because I enjoy the general pose (position of legs and left hand are very nice) and I think the general composition is very good and does a better atmosphere to this photo. Best wishes. Link to comment
setsail728 14 Posted June 24, 2010 John,Another wonderful portrait of a beautiful young lady. One of the qualities I like about all your photos is that you manage to "coax" some of the best expressions on the models' faces that I've seen anywhere. This photo is no exception. Its terrific when you can have that kind of rapport with your models. Link to comment
John Peri 1,007 Posted June 24, 2010 Thank you Warren and the others too for your support and for giving your opinions on which version works better, I really appreciate it. Link to comment
dgv 1 Posted June 25, 2010 Nice potrait John and thank you for your recent comment and very generous rates. Really appreciated. Link to comment
Guest Guest Posted June 25, 2010 Outstanding my friend as usual, wishing you all of the best. Link to comment
hans11664883765 0 Posted June 26, 2010 So if I like both versions that makes me..... In admiration of the model I guess Link to comment
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