pnital 36 Posted March 30, 2010 Another scene of 2 , a new dance I have photographed by the name of "Srul" . Choreographer: Tamir Ginz,dance group company : Kamea ( translates to talisman).Narrative is about: Childhood memories and nostalgic yearnings, inspired by the dancers' reactions to rockets landings near their rehearsal hall in the south of the country. Link to comment
davidmccracken 2 Posted March 30, 2010 I was hoping this image was conceived in your own mind. I like the idea a lot. In any case it is good to see a document of other peoples' art. Had you not shown this here, I might never have known about it. Link to comment
amalsircar 2 Posted March 30, 2010 Pnina, your introductory note throws light on the movement of the dancer. A dramatic image. Link to comment
kallol 1 Posted March 30, 2010 Wonderful image...fantastic light, exposure and tonality...my best Link to comment
Donna Stavis 0 Posted March 30, 2010 Pnina, reminds me of a wounded swan, pre-maturely geriatric here, incongruous -- truly interesting. I like this very much because there is also some hope for the future. I don't think the "world" sees Israel in this light. In context, it's a powerful, instructive statement. Link to comment
toloduran 0 Posted March 30, 2010 Estupenda toma e interesante interpretacion. excelente exposicion y b&w. Saludos -Tolo. Link to comment
pnital 36 Posted March 31, 2010 David, I photograph dance groups, it is a relationship between a choreographer, dancers and a photographer , the result is a collaboration and I see it as a dialogue between two kinds of creations, it is one part of my photographic expression I see photography in general, in many of its aspects based on other works of human creations and actions, like photographing models, architecture, temples , museums, churches, music and theater performances, portraits, ( using models as you do) etc, So even it is based on their perception and creation , the interpretation will always be mine. There is a group of dancers, about 10-14 of them,( in this dance and in others )this scene as well is based on many of them. Singling and choosing one fraction of a movement from a long dancing sentence, strong stage light, shadows,sometimes slow shutter speed,reflections, color tones, and composing it all, is giving the dance my point of view with the title as part of my expression and addition. Thanks for stopping by and expressing your point of view. Amal, thanks , as I have written to David it is a fraction of the whole sentence that touched me. Kallol, thanks as well for your feedback Donna, I see it in a much wider context of history, memories of the past, young people wounded that needed support,but walking and active, and much more. Thanks for seeing the scene in this context and as hope for the future. Tolo, thanks for your comment and feedback Link to comment
Jack McRitchie 150 Posted March 31, 2010 A dancer with a walker. Could there be any greater contradiction in terms. Link to comment
ldavidson 4 Posted March 31, 2010 Another beautiful image Pnina. The black and white is so dramatic. Wonderful! Link to comment
LenMarriott 9 Posted April 1, 2010 Jack stole my thoughts exactly. Whatever message you intended or is otherwise implied here it is the visual contrast of the dancer & the walker that makes the shot for me. I also really like the back\side lighting which gives your subject a 3D look, projecting her from the deep dark background. Yousuf Karsh, in his 1983 portfolio book "Karsh", candidly admits that his inspirational lighting techniques came from his observations of the Little Theater lighting technicians in Ottawa, Canada where he was involved with photographing the actors on stage in the early '30s. Perhaps one day we'll all be reading the biography and portfolio "Pnina". :-) Best, LM. Link to comment
celasun 0 Posted April 1, 2010 Your photo attracted my attention instantly and it did not need the context for me...Inability to walk alone, is a longstanding fear of mine. (Both my parents were severely arthritic when they were slightly above my age...) And, I "read" the dancer as an angel, helping me leave the scene, without the walker...I am aware that my interpretation is personal and (at least in part) out of context.I guess nothing is wrong when a good photograph rings different bells in the viewers' minds.That is what yours did... Link to comment
pnital 36 Posted April 2, 2010 Jack, yes, there is a contradiction, but the context for me is wider, I see it as the result of young people going to war... A wide part of our history here.... Ruud thanks Linda, I think as well that the scene is very dramatic in its message.Thanks Len, nice to read your evaluation, as it is a photographic site I did not want to enter the political side, but it can be understood...I'm glad you have referred to the photographic scene.Thanks for mentioning Yousuf Karsh, it is interesting and I will look for this book. Your last sentence made me smile ... Thanks! Svetlana, thanks for stopping by and commenting Bulent, an interesting personal feeling it evoked in you, I wish you a better future than needing support in walking. It was an unusual feeling, and thanks for writing the way it touched you. Link to comment
vadima 0 Posted April 3, 2010 Hi Pnina, the light and the contrast between the walker and the ballerina noted by others are just fabulous here. Speaking of the composition: I wonder if moving the camera to the left or perhaps making this image more square would not improver its dynamics. Not like I do not like it as is, but somehow I find the space on the right disturbing. Cheers, Vadim Link to comment
pnital 36 Posted April 3, 2010 Thanks . It could be cut from the R side and made a squar, yes, but I left it as is because for me it added the feeling of developement in walking. I add the photo as it was initially photographed. Link to comment
jeffl7 0 Posted April 3, 2010 Such a graceful and lithe body, but stricken and impaired, needing assistance. I have two friends, younger than I, who have rheumatoid arthritis. Vibrant women at war with their own bodies. This was my first thought upon viewing this photo. The sadness overwhelms. Link to comment
vadima 0 Posted April 3, 2010 Hi Pnina, It is very interesting in color too, thank you for sharing the original. Best, Vadim Link to comment
AJHingel 127 Posted April 6, 2010 Dear Pnina, knowing your work, this stroke me immediately because I don't think you (and the dancing group) have used the same means of expression in other photos of yours. The "dancer and the walker" are so obvious antagonistic messages of communication that they provoke interpretations. I have read the context and understand it and respect it, but in my eyes and with my background I see it as symbols of the present state of the two people of the Holy Land mutuality supporting each other. A utopia and not the intention, I know, but for each of us to appreciate this very strong photo that attracts attention and disturbs. Well done Pnina. Link to comment
pnital 36 Posted April 7, 2010 Alberto Thanks. Vadim , thanks for the follow up Jeff, as I see it it can have many interpretations. Each with his load of knowledge and life experience. The way it touched you is interesting. thanks Bob, thanks as well Anders,thanks for your interesting interpretation and point of view., It is a new dance, and the second I have photographed created by the choreographer Tamir Ginz . ( the first was "Secret Garden" ,can be seen in my files) . As I have written before, after a photo is uploaded it has its own life, and can be interpreted in different ways by the viewers. Some more details about this creation as I interpreted it. Srul or "Srulik"( means a nickname for the new state of Israel) was a satiric/comic figure created by the cartoonist Kariel Gardosh , "Dosh" (1921-2000)., and was daily in many newspapers and became an Israeli icon. Gardosh was born in Hungary , all his family did not survive the holocaust and he hardly did. He developed this satire talking about the new Israeli( figure) and the new state with all its problems of building a new country. Tamir Ginz creation transferred Srul to the dance realm, it is a very interesting creation and it is MY interpretation of the dance,not only as a movement but especially as an atmosphere ,according to my life and experience of being born and growing with the history here. I would call it " life as a dance".As Jeff saw it, it can take as well different human turns. Link to comment
AJHingel 127 Posted April 7, 2010 Thanks Pnina, I appreciate your explanations describing the context of the scene. I'll definitely look for what I can find of Dosh. Sounds interesting. Link to comment
LindaM 2 Posted April 7, 2010 Pnina, Very provoking image. The thoughts you express about young people and war gave me chills. I like that you included the original un-cropped version. I actually prefer it. I think the inclusion of the second walker gives this a broader statement...more about a crippled community instead of a crippled individual. Link to comment
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