Rachel, Restaurant On Shami Street, Jerusalem DSC_6504

Location Portrait

Can you anyway reduce the whiteness of the burnt out area just at the back of her face? It is, imho, a bit disturbing.Her expression is very good. Well captured. Regards, Susmit

If you are speaking of the bright area to the right of her face???? Perhaps this example is better?? thanks for pointing this out.

Just if you have the time and you allow the question,to tell me your way of converting your shots to the grey tone,

thanks whatever you response is,

I think I have read it one time,but I can not recall it now.

I think it was not me that you asked. My way is too simple. To convert color to b&w I open in Adobe Photoshop click on Enhance->Adjust Color ->Remove Color. That is the only thing that I did to this conversion. I know that people use other tools for conversion such as "channel mixers" and filters but those tools are not available to me. I have the simple version, Photoshop Elements 2.0 which does not offer much. Often skin tones after b&w conversion (for everyone not just me) are unnatural, like a dead gray; not what skin looks like. To deal with that, when I have to, I go a step further. I suggested the procedure once to John Crosely and he liked it so you might look over there (and save me writing) at http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10189470 I can add to this. One other thing. Ilford makes darkroom papers; Ilford Fiber Base Cold Tone and Ilford Fiber Base Warm Tone. I used "cold tone". Ilford suggests that the "warm tone" is more suitable for portraits. Recently I discovered a way (probably everyone but me knew) to make a "warm tone" b&w in photoshop. I converted the b&w to sepia and then desaturate almost but not completly. The degree of "warmth" is determined in the desaturation step. The "warmth" comes from the trace of sepia remaining. I have used this method recently on a few posts. See for example discussion by Dara P. on http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10310912 and the above attachment of cold and warm tone comparison. Maybe people don't like it but sometimes I do and it is fun to experiment. Sorry for the lengthy reply. I should have ended after the 3rd sentence but maybe something here is interesting. Since I do not have or know much about photoshop tools it is better to ask your question to the experts.

 

In the second post of the potrait of Rachel, you could remove the whiteness to some extent and it is definitely better than before.But please the tips how you do it.Thanks for explaining your way converting color to B/W and about warm tone in your reply to Saad.Regards.

Susmit

The bright fix.... With the clone tool I picked up the texture underneath the word לא and cloned it onto the bright area which you pointed out. I did it quickly just to be an example following your suggestion; it could be done better. It would be the same as picking up Rachel's face and cloning it into that bright space as in the photo above. I learned "cloning" from Bulent a couple of years ago. The technique (see above) on skin tone which I showed to John Crosely I learned from Len Marriot. So on my own I don't know very much :-)

 

 

Thanks for your reply.Regards, Susmit