Canon EOS 5D MkII Preview

Here’s a very quick rundown on the new EOS 5D MkII

  • 21MP full frame CMOS sensor
  • 3.9 fps continuous shooting
  • Improved weather sealing
  • Digic IV processor
  • 14-bit A/D
  • Live View (with face detection!)
  • High resolution LCD
  • ISO 100-6400 (expandable to 50 – 25600)
  • HD movies up to 30 minutes
  • New battery with 30% more capacity
  • Price $2700 (lower than Nikon D700 and Sony A900)
  • Availability: end of November 2008

Looks like a winner to me!

Canon EOS 5D MkII Press Release

LAKE SUCCESS, N.Y., September 17, 2008 – Canon U.S.A., Inc., a leader in digital imaging, today introduced the EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR camera, the long-awaited
successor to Canon’s highly popular EOS 5D, introduced in 2005. Building upon the
qualities that made the EOS 5D camera so successful, Canon has coupled the creative power
of a full-frame CMOS sensor in a relatively compact and affordable camera body, together
with groundbreaking HD video capture that opens the door to a much wider range of imaging
possibilities for photographers. Along with the ability to capture full HD video clips at
1920 × 1080 resolution, Canon’s EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR camera features a
21.1-megapixel full frame 24 × 36mm CMOS sensor, DIGIC 4 imaging processor and
significantly lower noise, with an expanded sensitivity range from ISO 50 to ISO 25,600.

"The anticipation surrounding the launch of this camera model has exceeded our
greatest expectations, and we believe our loyal customers will be awed by the level of
innovation and features built into the new EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR. Once they have the
chance to experience the camera, we believe they will agree that it was worth the
wait," stated Yuichi Ishizuka, senior vice president and general manager, Consumer
Imaging Group, Canon U.S.A.

Among the many advancements in Canon’s new EOS 5D Mark II camera is the Company’s
proprietary DIGIC 4 Imaging Processor that powers the camera’s fast 14-bit
analog-to-digital conversion for smooth color tones and exceptional gradation. The Canon
EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR offers a full-frame 24 × 36mm, 21.1 megapixel CMOS sensor and
continuous shooting at 3.9 frames per second (fps) for an unlimited number of
full-resolution JPEGs to the capacity of the memory card or up to 14 RAW images in a
single burst when using a UDMA CF card. The camera includes a 15-point Autofocus (AF)
sensor with nine selectable AF points plus six additional Assist AF points (three center
AF points sensitive to f/2.8 lenses) with enhanced light source detection and AF
microadjustment for greater autofocus performance. The EOS 5D Mark II camera also features
a large, clear 3.0-inch Clear View LCD screen with 920,000 dot/VGA resolution, four times
the pixel count of the EOS 5D camera’s 2.5-inch screen, for enhanced clarity and color
when viewing images. The new camera is equipped with a high-performance,
high-magnification optical viewfinder providing 98 percent coverage, giving a new
dimension to the saying, "what you see is what you get." Professional
photographers will also appreciate the enhanced 150,000-cycle shutter durability of the
EOS 5D Mark II camera.

Canon, the first company to introduce a full-frame digital camera, has improved the EOS 5D
Mark II Digital SLR camera’s newly developed full-frame CMOS image sensor. Utilizing
proprietary Canon technology, the Company has reduced noise and expanded the sensitivity
of the CMOS sensor up to ISO 25600, which is three full stops higher than the ISO 3200
limit of the original EOS 5D camera. Although the individual pixel dimensions of the EOS
5D Mark II camera are the same as the 21.1-megapixel CMOS sensor used in the EOS-1Ds Mark
III digital SLR, the new sensor incorporates an improved output amplifier and a more
advanced color filter that improves light transmission while retaining excellent color
reproduction. By applying the same kind of advancements in sensor design and image
processing technology as the recently introduced EOS 50D camera, but at higher resolution
and with larger pixels, the EOS 5D Mark II achieves the highest level of image quality of
any EOS Digital SLR released to date.

With the combination of its improved CMOS image sensor and the powerful new DIGIC 4 image
processor, the Canon EOS 5D Mark II camera provides ISO speeds from ISO 100 up to ISO 6400
in 1/3-stop increments, along with two high-speed settings – H1 and H2 – of ISO 12800 and
ISO 25600, respectively, as well as a low-speed setting of ISO 50. The full-frame sensor
maximizes the performance of Canon EF lenses, the world’s largest selection of autofocus
lenses.

HD and SD Video Capture
Canon has taken its expertise in imaging, photography and video capture technology to a
new level with the EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR. Answering the question of where SLR
technology is going next, the EOS 5D Mark II features 16:9 Full HD video capture at 1920 x
1080 pixels and 30 fps as well as 4:3 standard TV quality (SD) video capture at 640 × 480
pixels and 30 fps, both capabilities appearing for the first time in a Canon SLR camera.
Video capture is part of the camera’s Live View function, using the Picture Style that has
been set for Live View still image shooting. This allows skilled photographers and
cinematographers to adjust image sharpness, contrast, color saturation and white balance,
and have those settings apply to the movie image. When recording video, the camera’s rear
LCD screen can be letter-boxed by a semi-transparent border to match the aspect ratio of
the movie recording size. Moreover, the EOS 5D Mark II camera’s HD video capability
enables new levels of creative expression through its unfettered access to the complete
line of more than 60 Canon EF lenses, which provide an incredible variety of visual
effects including everything from ultra-wide-angle and fish-eye to macro and
super-telephoto, including many large-aperture L-series professional lenses that can keep
the main subject in razor-sharp focus while blurring the background beyond recognition.

The EOS 5D Mark II will record video up to 4GB per clip or a maximum continuous movie
capture time of 29 minutes and 59 seconds, whichever comes first. Depending on the level
of detail in the scene, a 4GB memory card can record approximately 12 minutes of video at
full HD resolution or approximately 24 minutes in standard definition.i Video
clips are recorded in .MOV format using an MPEG-4 video compression and sound is recorded
using linear PCMii without compression. The new camera features an input
terminal for external stereo microphones as well as a built-in monaural microphone for
convenience. To help show off those fantastic movies as well as still photos, the EOS 5D
Mark II camera includes an HDMI (High-Definition Multimedia Interface) output to display
crisp, clear images on a High-Definition TV.

Live View Shooting
For both still images and video, the Canon EOS 5D Mark II camera features Live View, one
of the most sought after features in digital SLRs today. The 5D Mark II features three
Live View AF modes – Quick, Live and Face Detection Live mode – for capturing either still
photos or video, each with its own attributes. Quick mode automatically sets One-Shot AF
using the camera’s phase detection AF system. It also allows users to select the AF point,
even while the Live View image is displayed. Although the camera’s reflex mirror must be
lowered briefly to take an AF measurement in Quick mode, it is the fastest way to set
focus automatically when the 5D Mark II camera is set for Live View.

Live mode uses contrast-detection AF with the image sensor and here, as with Quick mode,
users can change the AF point using the Multi-controller. Face Detection Live mode uses
contrast AF to recognize human faces. When multiple faces are detected, the largest face
closest to the center of the frame is targeted as the AF point. While Live View is engaged
users can still change settings including the AF mode (Quick, Live, Face Detection Live
mode), drive mode, ISO speed, Picture style, White Balance, and more.

Peripheral Illumination Correction
The Canon EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR camera automatically conducts peripheral illumination
correction when shooting JPEG images, a function that previously could only be
accomplished through post-image processing using software such as Canon’s Digital Photo
Professional, which Canon supplies at no extra charge. Peripheral illumination correction
evens brightness across the image field, making an image of a blue sky even toned
throughout and reducing light fall-off at image edges. This new feature essentially
eliminates one of the limitations of previous full-frame digital SLRs.

Auto Lighting Optimizer
Canon’s enhanced Auto Lighting Optimizer technology helps ensure each picture’s subject is
clearly visible by analyzing image brightness and automatically adjusting dark areas in
images so that they appear brighter. This function is ideal in high-contrast situations
such as urban landscapes captured on sunny days, where the tops of buildings are brightly
lit while street level details are obscured by heavy shadows. In this type of scene, the
5D Mark II camera’s Auto Lighting Optimizer technology preserves accurate exposure of the
highlights while opening up the shadow areas for a more pleasing tonal rendition.

Canon’s New Creative Auto Mode
Recently introduced with the new EOS 50D, Canon’s "CA" Creative Full Auto
setting can also be found on the EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR camera’s mode dial. This
setting allows users to make image adjustments such as aperture or shutter speed through
an easy-to-understand navigation screen on the camera’s LCD menu, allowing them to
"blur the background" or "lighten or darken the image." These
easy-to-understand image options allow photographers to experiment with image options
while still shooting in an automatic mode.

Two Small RAW Formats
For photographers seeking the flexibility and creative possibilities of shooting RAW
format images, without the large file size, the Canon EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR camera
offers two more manageable file size options with sRAW1 and sRAW2 recording formats. At
the sRAW1 setting, resolution is 10.0-megapixels with a file size that is approximately 25
percent smaller than a standard 21.1-megapixel RAW image. With the sRAW2 setting,
resolution is 5.2 megapixels at less than half the file size of a standard RAW image,
retaining all of the flexibility and creative possibilities associated with full-size,
conventional RAW images. Wedding and portrait photographers, in particular, will
appreciate the options of variable resolution and file size which allow them to fine-tune
the 5D Mark II’s operation for their specific needs.

Silent Shooting in Live View
Canon has equipped the EOS 5D Mark II with two Silent Shooting modes in Live View which
will prove particularly helpful to law enforcement officials, and for behind-the-scenes
shooting on movie sets. In Mode 1, the camera will shoot with the mechanical shutter open
at the beginning of the exposure, using the electronic 1st-curtain function of
the CMOS sensor and a reduced shutter-cocking noise, allowing multiple shots to be taken
with minimal noise. In Mode 2, to minimize shutter noise during single frame photography,
shutter cocking does not occur until the shutter button returns to the half-way position
after shooting.

EOS Integrated Cleaning System
With the introduction of the EOS 5D Mark II camera, the entire Canon EOS system is now
equipped with the highly acclaimed EOS Integrated Cleaning System. The Self-Cleaning
Sensor Unit for the Canon EOS 5D Mark II has been upgraded with a fluorine coating on the
low-pass filter for better dust resistance.

Pricing and Availability

The Canon EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR camera is compatible with Canon EF lenses and is
scheduled for delivery by the end of November. The EOS 5D Mark II will be sold in a
body-only configuration at an estimated retail price of $2,699iii. It will
additionally be offered in a kit version with Canon’s EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM zoom lens at
an estimated retail price of $3,499iv.

New EF 24mm f/1.4L II USM Lens
The new EF 24mm f/1.4L II USM lens is the successor to Canon’s EF 24mm f/1.4L USM
professional wide-angle lens released in 1997. Targeting professional photographers, the
new EF 24mm f/1.4L II USM lens has been introduced to address the advancements
high-resolution digital SLR cameras with re-designed optics and use of a new
anti-reflection lens coating called SWC (Sub-Wavelength Structure Coating) to minimize
ghosting and flare. Features such as dustproof and waterproof construction that have been
adopted make this a high-performance lens with specifications that respond to the demands
of professional users. A welcome complement to the EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR camera, the
EF 24mm f/1.4L II USM lens is scheduled to be in stores this December at an estimated
retail price of $1,699v.

h2. Where to Buy

The Canon EOS 5D Mark II body will be available in November for about $2700 along with related accessories.

Original text ©2008 Bob Atkins.

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    • Sweet. The different RAW files are a definite plus, and though I doubt I'll end up using it much, the HD video doesn't sound as gimmicky as it has in recent dSLR releases - esp if there's an attachment stereo mic. Loving that they seem to think that this has the best image quality of any EOS dSLR so far - makes me damn glad I didn't fork out on a 1Ds mkIII. Can't wait to get my hands on one of these... price is damn good too!!!
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    • So glad i just got my D700. 3.9 fps? uggggg
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    • Woah! I knew not upgrading for more than a year and awaiting this model was worth it :D The wait is over!!
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    • Canon was not the first company to introduce a so called "full frame" DSLR, i.e. with a 24x36mm sensor. That honor goes to the Contax N, which is a major failure, but that is besides the point: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0202/02022505contaxndigitalinhand.asp
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    • Nice! Long waiting seems worth it. Available in November - I will miss the autumn leaves with this camera.
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    • Just in time for Christmas!!! My gosh I was running around my house with tears of joy when My friend texted me of the arrival!!!
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    • Wouldn't you expect the price to drop some straight after Christmas? :P
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    • Holy Toledo I didnt think they could do it as I thought the 5D I have now was the perfect camera but I think I'm drooling! Peripheral Illumination Correction? Very cool! Auto Lighting Optimizer? How well will that work? sheeesh that will be neat if it works. Two Small RAW Formats? I got a feeling people are gonna find that handy! EOS Integrated Cleaning System? I kinda figured that they would make me cry with this one, sure wish my 5D had this. Live View Shooting? Thats where you look at the screen and you can see what you are shooting before you shoot like on the point and shoots? Oh crud my husband is going to have a heart attack, I can see him now hiding our checkbook and credit cards from me! I better remind myself I have all the camera I need at this point in time A LOT!
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    • well a definitively well sorted camera... but how can a camera that sync to 1/200s be called professional? give me the eos 1D 1/500s sync back!!!! why no mode with faster sequence on a lower resolution? 6fps @ 10mpx? everything slower than 5fps should not be called sequence. it feel to me that it might be the perfect camera.... but...there is a but. and dont worry with 21 meg you HAVE to buy the latest L serie lens to get the most out of the beast!!!! so canon will make money any way.
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    • Wonder if the internal characteristics of the Mirror and mirror cage will still allow mounting Leica-R lenses without Interference. The large Pixel Count , Low Noise and extended Sensitivity seem like a God Send for Landscape Photography. Any links to Images taken with this new Model?
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    • looks very good and i am geting this baby for sure.
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    • Bob, it looks like a winner to me too! but why do you guys in the states have all the fun, the price difference here in the UK is just madness! http://www.digitalrev.com/en/canon-eos-5d-mark-ii-dslr-camera-body-4425.html £2,701.33 http://www.warehouseexpress.com/product/default.aspx?sku=1027970 £2299.99 Considering I paid £2199 for the 1dMK3 something is wrong with Canon UK marketing I'm looking at selling my 5D and upgrade when the price of the 5D2 gets realistic. I don't use my 5D much these days since I got the 1dmk3. I think the lens is interesting also. I like that it is a prime the f1.4 along with the high ISO capabilities of the new 5D2 will make a lot of people happy. Just imagining the potential makes me smile. I can't wait to do some wildlife video's with a 5D2. Using my lens 300mm f2.8LIS and a 2xII (600mm @f5.6) hope the AF works well in video mode. Anyway Good review article! I just want to see some raw files to play with. One thing is certain though I won't be buying at UK prices I may wait for a business trip via Hong Kong or go for a long weekend holiday to N.Y. Regards Necip
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    • Wow! Glad I waited a year and a half for it. With 21MP, I expect the AA filter will be less aggressive to allow for sharper pictures. What about AF? Still limited to f/5.6 or faster lenses or up to f/8 like the MkIII?
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    • Christian most cameras synch at 1/200 or 1/250. This camera, as in the last 5d version, has no pop up flash anyway;so just stick on your ex model flash and flip it to the high speed sync and you can shoot at 1/8000. Is that fast enough?
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    • Very nice!
      It finally came out.

      I am glade I'll be able to buy a 2nd hand 5D for less than $1000.
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    • Good things come to those who wait
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    • i cannot wait to get my hands on it. Worth the wait indeed. :)
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    • In the digital field Canon is just a step ahead of everybody.
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    • Same size sensor with almost twice the pixels means much smaller pixels which means more noise from the sensor. Then they somehow process it away?
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    • I sold my XTi in the begining of this summer, and after that i tried couple cameras including 40D and Nikon D80... ... i'm picture quality freek and in this case i don't care about the look and $$$ of camera, but i find out that i cannot use 40D like my walkaround camera! Becouse it's REALLY inconvinient to wait 10sec. for timer every time i want to make picture of me and my wife together. What i'm saying is that it's IR remotes only for beginner grade of SLRs like XTi or new XSi. And now when this camera coming out i'm really happy that Canon heard my prayers and built-in IR port in 5D mk 2. Sorry 4 my english :)
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    • Pricing in Europe and especially in UK is always a lottery. Canon seems to want to screw us blind, and a healthy volume of personal imports always result on eastbound trans-Atlantic flights. Back when they introduced the original 5D the UK list was GBP 2535. over 4000 USD at the time. Within a few weeks it was available in rural district high street shops for GBP1895. They never learn that they can't keep us in the dark - now that nearly everyone has Internet access. Wake up Canon and stop insulting us. Three cheers fror Tim Berners-Lee.
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    • I wish there was a Image Stabiliser built in , in the Body itself .
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    • I CAN'T WAIT TO HAVE THIS WONDERFUL TOY IN MY HANDS,,,,, JUAN CARLOS NUNEZ
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    • Looks excellent! 3.9fps is more than enough for any photographer with skill :) One shot, one kill.
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    • It sounds very good, but not good enough to make me ditch my 1Ds II (which I got new at a fire sale price back in January). In fact, I might just shoot that old brick till the day I die. For those who are ready to invest in a full-frame EOS camera, however, the 5D II sounds like the way to go. --Lannie
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    • To Shun Cheung, well if the contax N was a major failure, then it dont count! Canon 5D rules! Canon: 1) first full frame 2) first full frame under $3000 3) first in Highest Resoultion 4) first in Highest Resolution under $3000 5) first choice among a majortity of pros out there! (look at the color of the lenses in sports or otherwise IF WHITE..CANON!)
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    • "first choice among a majority of pros out there! (look at the color of the lenses in sports or otherwise IF WHITE..CANON!)" I shoot overwhelmingly Canon, with an occasional piece of glass made by someone else, but I don't think that what you say is really true anymore. For sports and action photography, the Nikon D3 and D700 are very fast, and Nikon's black lenses have thus made quite a comeback in the photos I see of photographers at work. Canon seems to be in second place right now with regard to that kind of photography. That is not my kind of photography (with very rare exceptions), and so it does not trouble me in the least. Even so, the market keeps changing and will continue to do so as more products are introduced by more manufacturers. --Lannie
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    • While I'm very excited at this new camera, I still have plenty of faith in my old 5D, which went with me across the US last year. While I am considering the upgrade because of the enhanced dust sealing factor and the higher resolution, I fail to see why everyone gets excited over a still camera that shoots movies. Dump that option and the price of the camera drops a bit!
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    • "Same size sensor with almost twice the pixels means much smaller pixels which means more noise from the sensor. Then they somehow process it away?" Canon has changed the sensor lens design which allows more light into each pixel sensor. One thing that surprises me, in light of the AF specs of Nikon, is that Canon chose to not upgrade the AF sensor to 9 cross-type points, as in the 40D and 50D. Do you 5D users find this to be an annoyance, or is it a non issue? I currently shoot with a 40D and am trying to decide between the 50D and 5D mkii.
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    • "Dump that option and the price of the camera drops a bit! " Or dump that option and for the same price add or enhance something useful to still photography.
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    • I say keep the video. The original 5D was perfect for skilled photographers. Like previously stated, 3.9fps is fast enough for any photographer with skill, and the AF is as well, I often manual focus, because it reminds me of a time before AF. I’m not discounting the 1D’s or Nikon in any way, it’s just more than I care to spend when I can get the same results on my 5D. With the new 5D Mark II, you get a well known trusted Digital SLR, with improvements: Live view, integrated cleaning, improves resolution, and new RAW options to name a few. Then there are the improvements that they don’t mention, the things not worth putting in a review but can make or break a choice. Things like a top level menu that you can customize with all of your favorite buried options. Add all of that with an HD Video camera using interchangeable lenses, adjustable ISO and aperture. That kind of video camera in itself would cost over $10,000. For me this is the perfect camera.
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    • For those who want to see an example of video performance, as well as a few raw video files, and some stills, head over to This Blog.
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    • Since owning the 5D and being pleased with it , this new baby will do just fine , I Have been waiting for this , and the price is much less than the 5 D s first intro in 2005 . A sure winner .
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    • I don't see the slightest problem with added video. A 30D, and G5 guy. It's just an extension of what's already there from the viewer. Not having to bring a video camera to Europe, wow! That just saved 5+ lbs of risky baggage. Nikon's movie samples seen from D90 are shocking impressive. Not having to load and process mini dv while on tour from video camera, wow! It's a simple upgrade. Blinded by science types must be twice older than myself at 50 something. The G5 did video well in 2003, and still a fun option. It's always on board where the 30D leaves off. I would of added full swing out screen to compose floor shots. Face on the floor, butt in the air. For some I guess. Even Olympus thinks it's classier to do otherwise. E3. Waited long enough for my 5DII.
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    • I love the heightened ISO to 25600 -- no, I don't see myself shooting at that ISO, but what it implies is low noise at very high ISO's so I'll get greater depth of field in low light. Great for newborn photography, nighttime engagement sessions, intimate indoors low light portraits, etc. Go get it now because there's free shipping
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    • Just got back from Scotland and Paris. I've had the 5D for 3 yrs going. So many times I wish I had video for the moment. This does it for me. PS my dollar was worth 50cents in UK. Seems with the dollar so low, it would pay for UK photographers to take a trip to NY...almost a free vacation.
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    • I'm very pleased to see this updated model. I plan to buy one as soon as I have the funds. While all of the new upgrades are very welcome, I'm hoping that the brightness of the viewfinder readout is improved. With my current 5D, the display is so dim that it's often barely readable. I am anxious to hear the reports of those who will acquire this new DSLR and get their opinions. Thanks Guys.
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    • Nice upgrade features...However, I was hoping for better usability. ISO 25600 is the defacto standard now, but Canon stops auto ISO at 3200. Why stop there? What if I wanted to shoot at a certain Tv and it required ISO 4000 or higher in that instance? Why couldn't Canon upgrade the exposure system? Spot still center only. Why not all nine points or multi-spot mode? And why not say 2% vs 3.5% of frame to improve accuracy. Is it weather sealed or not? Why not 5fps min with 8 fps with add on grip? Why not dual card slots since wedding photog's could have some backup? Canon could have made this camera better by keeping it at 13MP with the added features I mentioned. Gripes aside, it is a lot of camera for the price.
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    • I just bought my Canon 5D 4 months ago with almost(...well few hundreds less) the same price of the new Canon 5D Mark II. I wish I waited to get this new one. Well, That will not stop me form getting this baby anyway. I wished cannon has added a built in flash to it though. Tamer
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    • Ramirez, Nichols, et.al, The smug assertion " 3.9 fps is more than enough for any photographer with skill ", which implies that anyone desiring a faster frame rate lacks "skill", reminds us that ignorance is often the basis for certainty. I'd suggest that the skills of a competent photographer would include a bit of math, and some imagination. The math will help with the facts of the matter, ...and the imagination will serve in remembering that purposes differ. I'll try to assist with both; Imagination first - Imagine that you are a wildlife photog who wishes to capture a fishing osprey at the "catch" moment. You have spent considerable time locating a likely position, and hope that luck will smile and offer you the event you are trying to perpetualize. You would like to get "the" moment, the bird clutching the fish in its talons, the spray flying from the disturbance, and the wings at the top of the upstroke, with the fish-in-claws clearly visible below. Now the math - With a frame rate of 3.9(let's call it 4) frames per second, and an osprey approach-speed of 30mph(not fast at all for a bird of prey), the bird is moving 44 feet per second. That's ll feet-per-frame !! THINK about it.) If your (or the camera's) timing of THE moment is off by 1/8 second, the point of capture, with the splash-and-grab image, will be 5.5 feet from where the bird is. If you are using a long lens, that could mean out-of-the-picture, much less out of the compositional closeness you envision. Then there is the fact that the wings are moving too, and the wrong split-second shot could find the wings down-stroked, covering the claws/fish,spray, whatever. The point is that for some subject matter, a fast frame rate IS a useful tool for a "skilled" photographer,...as some subjects offer exact-moment images that are superior to others taken just before or after. All the skill in the world will not change the mathematics of the relationships between moving subjects, but a faster frame rate will certainly improve the odds of achieving this type of goal. Now consider the fact that if the hoped-for shot is missed, there is likely to be a considerable delay before the opportunity again presents itself with all aspects right(fishing bird, catchable fish, camera position, light, etc.), and that the time and effort involved in making this failed attempt has been wasted, considering the intent. Then you may begin to understand why a "skilled" photographer, with that (or some similar) specific purpose, would desire a faster frame-rate, and thus a lessened change-of-relative positions of the elements in the composition between frames. There are some significant differences in what-features-matter between cameras being used for different purposes. A situation which allows for "Let's try that again", or static landscape or studio shots would not be troubled by a slower frame rate, of course. Let's try to keep the other guy's uses in mind, as well as our own, when making pronouncements about what is "good enough". There are plenty of skilled photographers using 1 DII,III, etc., largely BECAUSE of the fast frame rate.
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    • Is it a big minus that the 5d m2 only has 9 autofocus points ?
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    • I changed to Canon in 2005 as all the sports pros were using them but the 1D MKIII is a nightmare and causes me no end of problems, have sent it to Canon twice in 8 months for warranty repairs. All the D3 users (whose numbers are increasing as many change over) swear by the latest Nikon pro, so why can't Canon sort their shit out and give us a cutting-edge pro editorial/sport camera? My MKIIN is reliable, though the colour, low noise and results are still much better on MKIII. The 5DII will be a decent camera but nowhere near sturdy enough for heavy pro use. And finally, why did Canon reduce the no of af points? I don't get it.
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    • I have been eagerly awaiting a serious test / comparison of the 5D mk2 against the competition (which seems to be growing almost daily). Have not found one yet. I wonder why Canon does not send cameras to the "main" reviewers first... Previews are nice, but they tell us almost nothing real.
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    • Yes, Bob, I check daily PN for your test results. Karl
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    • I have it since 29 Nov 2008 bought in HongKong. I upgraded from 30D (I hade 2,5 yrs) and have mainly a 24-105mm 4L attached to it. The auto ISO is a big improvement when shooting in public area even at dark. It allows you to take fast a picture gaining the momentum without setting up camera first. High ISO also till 6400 is perfectly usable. Above that it becomes of less use. All depends of course what you want to use it for. New VGA screen works also well. And for me the quick menu is also welcome.

      Full frame gives me now the real 24mm I was afraight of loosing the long zoom end on my 24-105mm compared to the crop of the 30D but don't find that a problem and can still attach my 70-300 IS DO zoom to it. Handling is also similar to 30D feels more solid even. It is a bit more robust but better balanced with the heavier lenses. Nice to see so many reviews but sometimes they are just based on feelings and no facts, there are better blogs if you are really interested. I have read many of those and was still uncertain to go for full frame. Well I am glad I did, darken corners (full frame disadvantage) and so are nicely taken care of in body and the amount of megapixels gives me in average a 7 MP jpg so don't be afraid of that.

      Movie was not my main reason to buy this camera if 5D MKII would be without I would not have mind. But I have taken some shots and it's nice but you need to prepare upfront really to get a decent movie. UltraII Scandisk is to slow ExtremeIII works well. All my computers Apple and PC's cannot play movie without hickups. So it's really pro stuff that comes out of the camera nice when you really want to catch something, for real film shots you need much preparation.

      But over all you will love this Photo camera !

      Here you can find some expert reviews: Canon EOS 5D Mark II reviews

      Problems:

      Read a story about the movie mode, I can fully agree to this. Although the caption is too negative, the movie mode has limitations however.

      The battery door queeks when you press your hand to hold the camera tightly, it sounds cheap, I guess the sealing of the door.

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    • The 5D Mk II is one of the best cameras for most typs of photography, but when it comes to wildlife, especialy Birds, then you need the 50D for your telephoto lenses combined with 6.5 fps and the high density APSc format. The 5D Mk II can't come close when croped to 15.84 X 10.56 in @ 300 dpi of the 50D. Other than that; I have to get the 5d MkII for all other work other than birds and surfing.
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    • All this talk about hardware - I thought the picture you take was what photography was about! I'm not knocking the 5D2 - I bought one (I'm 80 and past my sell-by date and cannot afford it; however I managed to get a bit of programing work to fund the purchase, such dedication! you cannot tell me the camera is not important). I see so many great pictures on cameras of "lesser" quality so let's get it in perspective: the 5D2 is very good cos Canon wants to make a lot of money!
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    • 100% with you Maurice !!!
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    • I have a question about the shutter on this camera. If you shoot video, e.g. a 4 min clip at 24 fps that is equal to 24x60x4=5760 frames which I presume it uses shutter cycles, right? So with 150000 duty cycles, math tells me that if I do one wedding every week and just shoot one 4 minute clip and NO Photos with this camera, it may have to go back to the service every six months or so? Or does it uses something else for video since the HD video has different resolution than the photo? 150000 / 5760 = 26.04
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