john falkenstine 1 Posted December 19, 2004 I too, read all of the comments. Only Tom Turk noted some flaws and based on those observations I downloaded the image, analysed it and found TWO exposures, namely the front area shot in daylight and the background shot at nightime. So, once again, we have a poster who is not telling us the full story here...maybe the 1/1 rating is fully deserved... Link to comment
yongbo 0 Posted December 19, 2004 Excellent control of long exposure. If this image is from 2 exposures, you should receive 10/10 on your Photoshop skill. BTW, all your pictures on pbase.com are very nice. Link to comment
awaraagard 0 Posted December 19, 2004 magnificent aesthetic approach & tremendous artistic skills that enabled u 2 get this powerful shot. very very dynamic & brilliant work. Link to comment
sentimental 0 Posted December 19, 2004 Nikon D70 Focal Length: 18mm Optimize Image: Custom Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB) Noise Reduction: Fixed Pattern 2004/10/30 22:08:31.9 Exposure Mode: Manual White Balance: Auto -2 Tone Comp: User-Defined Custom Curve RAW (12-bit) Lossless Metering Mode: Center-Weighted AF Mode: Manual Hue Adjustment: +3? Image Size: Large (2000 x 3008) 30 sec - F/7.1 Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached Saturation: Enhanced Exposure Comp.: 0 EV Sharpening: None Lens: 18-70mm F/3.5-4.5 G Sensitivity: ISO 200 Image Comment: Copyright reserved by BugraSadikoglu Link to comment
sentimental 0 Posted December 19, 2004 I'm sorry but this is not an easy situation to face. This is my first photo and I had such accusations without any clue. I mentioned my pbase web site here. I am not a newbie. My portfolio is there. I didn't put together two photos of day and night. If I had such ability I would do that and I would write it there. I also didn't like what Frankenstine did. He put my photo's pale form at this site insisting on something totally absurd. Sorry, this is not a polite behaviour. Link to comment
sentimental 0 Posted December 19, 2004 I uploaded 22 photos shot at the harbour. All are nefs directly resized and converted to jpeg. I haven't done any change to any one of the images. http://www.pbase.com/bugra/inbox Link to comment
thracian 0 Posted December 19, 2004 I would disagree with John Falkenstine. He said that he had found two exposures on this photo, one day, one night. It doesn't seem logical to me, because from the Exif info, this shot was taken at around 10 p.m., I don't think that the boats would stay still there from night to day. It is impossible to shoot this picture at different times. From my own experience, I know this is quite possible result under the moonlighting. That's why I have to congratulate the photographer for his taking this beautiful shot. Link to comment
Guest Guest Posted December 19, 2004 30 seconds exposure and no movement of middle boats in water? must agree with turk and john. Link to comment
john falkenstine 1 Posted December 19, 2004 Sorry, but clearly the shadows of the tree and brilliant blue on the boat indicate DAYLIGHT. My observation stands. It is not an accusation, merely a factual observation of a manipulation. Actually the DAYLIGHT portion has some potential as a nice photograph. Link to comment
thracian 0 Posted December 19, 2004 Then, please go to PBase site of the photographer, and take a look at them. Are they all Day time photos. I can clearly say that this is NOT a day time photo. It has been processed with P/S., but this is definitely not a day-time photo, as I have personally seen the NEF original of this one and the others. I also would like to say it again, how come, do the boats stay there without moving for even one inch. Please be fair. Link to comment
Guest Guest Posted December 19, 2004 couldnt it be said that a bright moon or street light from the left could have made the shadows and the filtered lighting? I find the image pleasan enough to look at with the forfront boat leading the eye inward. Knicki Link to comment
Guest Guest Posted December 19, 2004 Why dont you have a look at http://www.pbase.com/bugra/inbox Your behaviour really unfair and unacceptable. Link to comment
yongbo 0 Posted December 19, 2004 Different light source got different color temperature. That's the purpose of white balance on digital camera to correct the color. But only one WB could be used on this image, so the color is partially correct. I hope this might answer John's question. Link to comment
Guest Guest Posted December 20, 2004 Wonderful idea and masterly executed. I don't have problem even if the photo is manipulated as it looks superb and should be appreciated as such... 7/7. I think if the photographer says its not manipulated.... one should respect the information he is giving. Congrats for posting a wonderful image. Would love to see more. Best regards. Link to comment
sentimental 0 Posted December 20, 2004 I wish I could shot day and night shots then mix them up to a photo but no need at this photo. To my surprise if I was shooting velvia, probably the result would be very similar (you can see from the originals). May be only a little darker. The exposure difference may be because I used the shadow/highlight control of the PS. Front area is lightened with the flourescent harbour lamps and the far back side is with the sodium or tungsten like street lamps causing reddish colour. I used fill-in flash with one of the shots but I didn't liked that because the boat at the front looked like painted artificially. Link to comment
blago 0 Posted December 20, 2004 Way too busy for my taste. And what's worst - too many different light sources that further fragment the image, thus emphasising on its business (overloading). The tree on the left vertical and the branch on the right one are distracting. Night exposures are difficult, of course, but I simply cannot accept such bright and equally coloured sky and water. Regards. Blago Link to comment
k c 0 Posted December 25, 2004 Thanks for sharing your photo, Bugra. I don't understand what the problem of this picture is... If I have one like this, I'd be very proud of myself and definitely post it here and ask for critiques. You don't even need to visit his Pbase portfolio. How many of the PN daily top photos are purely out-of-camera without post processing...? PS enhancement is not a crime. Also, even in the case this image is a composite of two exposures (which i don't really agree), I think his effort and patience MUST be praised, not blamed. Link to comment
john falkenstine 1 Posted December 26, 2004 Allright, I went and checked the netsite. I will revise my viewpoint of the image as perhaps NOT being a double composure. However, the quality of the image with the numerous sources of light still does not come across well. As I noted, the foreground by its own would probably make a good exposure, but as a whole, the image doesn't impress me as a great exposure....The real danger here is that I see that automatic expectancy that the fancy digital camera will magically generate images, and that each one, because of the camera, is automatically a great image. Link to comment
yildirim__zkaraman1 0 Posted February 23, 2005 There's nothing more to say than it's just fantastic...... Link to comment
ozgur_eren 0 Posted March 7, 2005 daha once fotokritik'te gormustum burada da gormek guzel.tebrikler... Link to comment
Guest Guest Posted April 27, 2005 I saw this image after I had seen the 2 other great photos of you... well.. A M A Z I N G ! only... Link to comment
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