white on white

I think this picture looks fabulous. I realize this is an area for discussion but this is splitting hairs.....I would leave it alone and enjoy it just the way fili intended. Thanks for sharing your work. Seth Moorman

To all the scrinters, no one has put this image into a frame. The presentation of the image could impact all the feeling about it.

BTW, this is also the question mentioned by photo.net Elves.

Your picture is absolutely wonderful, there is nothing to be changed imho. And for those who give it 6/6 and complain

about their attention being diverted to the technicalities, well I consider myself an amateur, and have no idea

about the technicalities that were being discussed - most people are not Professionals who tear down an ART

down to NUMBER of pixels - and in life NOTHING ever *IS* perfect so the little imperfections in this photo such as

the scarf and the darker eye give it LIFE - Out of all the variations the original still stands in first place

for me even the border is perfect for the image.

 

BTW: As per Isidro's description on December 15th, is this what a High Key is?

 

Congratujluje Olu za POW

"...while not questioning the motives of any specific person in this thread-..."

 

Why care about motives at all, since they're ultimately unknowable and undoubtedly more complex than simple? Either the idea being put forward stands or it doesn't.

 

I really don't care if a surgeon is "motivated" by repressed sadism or a sincere desire to heal as long as the cutting and sewing is done with skill, and I like trains to run on time even tho' Mussolini liked the concept before me.

wonderful shot. As for presenting, i'd have a white matte and black frame.

How...

 

Photoshop but did you use liberal amounts of talc powder?

 

NIce photo, reminds me of John Major's female version in youth (cf Spitting Image TV comedy).

Congrats on getting POW and creating such a stir. IMHO this is another exceptional photo

from one of the most creative and inspiring artists on photo.net. And at your age I view

you as someone who is going to be at the top of your field in years to come and someone

who is definately worth watching. Your treatment of this originally colour shot is

inspirational to me. My only critisium would be in keeping that stray bit of fabric which

IMHO throw's off the gracefull flow and beauty of the subject. Not to many have mentioned

this as being a problem so I present this revision for there consideration. By removing it I

felt the left side needed to be cropped slightly and I threw in a frame for Robert's sake.

Keep the faith Fifi, your style and merit are second to none. Cheers Nova :)

Hi Fili,

 

Congrats on pow and you have a wonderful portfolio, thanks for sharing your work. I took

the liberty to put some suggestions of the elves here, hope you don't mind and forgive my

rudimentary gimp skills.

 

Lightened her right eye, cloned the cloth and darkened the value slightly on her lips. I

probably prefer it with the cloth, it has more life, lightening the eye and darkening the lips

adds a little more balance and creates focus on her face overall imo.

 

It's a lovely work, I'm not familiar with the technique used to create high key either in

camera or after and would like to learn more about it.

In all fairness, many of the above criticisms would probably go away if we were able to view an actual print of this photograph. I regularly use 3 different computers, all with different monitor types (2 out of the 3 correctly calibrated), and this image looks completely different on all 3. On my laptop the eyes did look a little dark, but on my CRT this image is breathtaking. Given the obviously subtle tonality of this image, it's IMO unfair of the elves to open this image up to the POW flame wars, since I don't think it can be fairly judged as a digital image. Just my 2 cents.

Neat effect. Can this be done in a darkroom instead of digital? Is there a high-key paper or something? Just trying to learn, Thnx.

Watch 'The Great Gatsby' for 'High Key' Cinematography. High Key doesn't necessarily mean overexposed images but rather a dominance of high tonal values and the absence or rather reduction of shadows. In 'The Great Gatsby' they had a lot of white tuxedos and white cars and so on, leading to an overall lightness and easiness in the cinematic context. Same goes for photography, I presume; This isn't the picture of a woman grieving for her lost love, is it?

 

You can't photochop your way around actually having to light your subject, it always looks artificial - in a bad sense, this time.

 

 

Matthias

 

P.S.: Just remembered: In a face, brightness ratios of 1:1 are considered 'High Key', 2:1 normal and 3:1 and lower is 'Low Key' (I think). Of course props have to be fitting and the background, the clothing and the props have to be lit equally bright.

I LOVE THIS PHOTO.......I CAN LOOK AT THIS PIC AND CAN BE COMPLETELY BE DRAWN IN.......FOR THE PERSON WHO SAYS THAT THE SHADOW GIVE THE PRECEPTION THAT THE MODEL IS CROSSEYED.I LOVE THIS EFFECT..SOMETIMES WITH GREAT BEAUTY AN INPREFECTION MAKES HER HUMAN.WERE YOU FIND YOURSELF DRWAN TO THE INPREFECTION...."Trying to give some consistency

I believe this picture is really a great opportunity"..LEAVE THE PHOTO ALONE......CONSISTENCY SHOULD NOT BE LACK OF SHADOW.....

is a beautiful picture ,I like it so much ..congratulations!!

Pure, like an angel. Beutiful work.

Very Nice, as is all of your work. Print 14.5" Square Crop - 1" Dark Pink Matte, 3" Light Pink Flat Frame.

I love this shot! Congrats!

exquisite image