dirk b. 0 Posted September 6, 2001 This one of the best analoge Ir-Photos I've ever seen, congratulation ;-)) Link to comment
pphaneuf 0 Posted September 6, 2001 Good IR one, not too intrusively white as many IR, and excellent use of the fisheye IMHO! Link to comment
daniel flather 0 Posted September 7, 2001 Some more IR and fisheye. The skyline is totally blown out but that happens at sunset with HIE. Lots of IR "light". The horizon is in the middle of the photo but I had to do that in order not to curve the horizon with the fisheye lens, I hate horizons in the middle of the frame but I think it works here. Did I successfully brake the rule or not, What do you think??? Link to comment
greglyon 0 Posted September 7, 2001 I agree, this is a nice composition. It's just too bad that the middle got so blown out. is there any horizon detail in the negative at all? It might be nice to burn it in a bit if so. Link to comment
daniel flather 0 Posted September 7, 2001 There is no detail in the horizon on the negative. The negative is on the thin side so no matter how I exposed this or print it there was too much contrast in the scene. Link to comment
robertbrown 1 Posted September 7, 2001 This is wonderfully composed. Boat and clouds are great. However, the IR blowout in the middle destroys what would be a great image. I think all of us who play with IR have had some of our best photos wrecked by this . . . RB Link to comment
monster maker 0 Posted September 7, 2001 Good shooting Daniel...I love all your IR fisheye stuff...this one especially. I might need your help in buying a new body...something that wont fog with IR. Link to comment
scooterzz 0 Posted September 9, 2001 IMO, the darker oblong in the lower left of the image draws the eye unnecessarily. Terrific image, though. Link to comment
michael_fruitman 0 Posted October 8, 2001 I've never seen such good results from IR film. I've never had any experience with it either... Maybe it's time I start doing so, if the results can look this good! Interesting portfolio as well. Very nice! Link to comment
bloq_henseith1 0 Posted October 8, 2001 I'm considering buying an IR filter for my cmaera, and this picture really won me over. Link to comment
pphaneuf 0 Posted October 8, 2001 Congratulation for the POW, Dan! I hope I can join you soon... ;-) Link to comment
panyitu 0 Posted October 8, 2001 Everything converges to the unappreciated blow out in the middle, giving the scene its unreal atmosphere, thus enhanced by the distortion. If the big bang had produced only a boat some sand and a set of clouds it would look like this. I like this picture very much, but then again what I like or I dont its irrelevant in this forum. Link to comment
animalu 0 Posted October 8, 2001 Personally, I love the very bright horizon, it contrasts with what would normally be a very calm setting and adds tension and interest. This might otherwise be just another boat on the shore shot, but the horizon takes it to a new level. Link to comment
iceman98 0 Posted October 8, 2001 This shot gives the impression that the sky is moving really fast. Like the emotion of this photo. Amazing photo! Link to comment
brian_kennedy 0 Posted October 9, 2001 Very nice. I like this one, but then I'm kind of a sucker for contrasty IR photos ;-). I particularly like the idea to shoot this as a vertical, emphasizing the sky and letting the boat emerge from the very bright "power point" of the composition. Maybe an odd thing to notice, but what is that darker area on the sand to the left of the boat? It doesn't look like a shadow. Wet sand? Just wondering. Nice shot and congrats on POW ;-). Link to comment
frank_becker 0 Posted October 9, 2001 The blowout in the horizon turned this very good photo into a great photo. Stunning. Link to comment
timschultz 0 Posted October 9, 2001 I agree that the bottom left spot detracts immensely from the photo, is this from a poor Photoshop burn tool application? The bow of the boat looks poorly dodged, as well. Link to comment
pawel oziemblowski 0 Posted October 9, 2001 I find above opinion that: "...bottom left spot detracts immensely from the photo" very interesting. Since if you look at the picture as some kind of reality shot, burnt horizon will be much more detracting than wet sand. (you'd better dry out sand before shooting next time). Besides there is not only one wet spot. Burnt horizon looks like a nuclear bomb blast.(of course there was no way to avoid it). On the other hand if treat it as a piece of art only, then blast will be ok, but wet sand won't fit it. There is something artificial in those spots and anyone can feel it. Good photo for POW. Congratulation. Link to comment
vuk_vuksanovic 0 Posted October 9, 2001 Normally, Photonet shots look better and better when viewing larger versions, but in this case it was the opposite. The choice of subject and composition are excellent, yet clearer views revealed the choice of film to be questionnable and "darkroom" technique as messy. I liked this photo at first (and small), but the dark mystery blob on the left, clumsy dodging of various bits of the boat and strange fungus-like grain all add up to shoddy work. It's fundamentally a near miss and an unfortunate one at that, given the photographer's skill in spotting a winning scene. Oh well, these things happen, though it's best to go back for a second try rather than attempt to salvage a sub-standard negative.I've never seen such good results from IR film.-- Michael Fruitman Michael.You may want to have a peek at this folder:http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=131779 Link to comment
pawel oziemblowski 0 Posted October 9, 2001 Vuk remarks explain why size of the photo is so small. Link to comment
michael_fruitman 0 Posted October 9, 2001 Vuk, that IR folder you sent to me (http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=131779 ) was very good. However, I still like Daniel's more. I said it was the best IR work I've seen, because I haven't seen very much IR work, so I don;t know what's good or not! Link to comment
daniel flather 0 Posted October 9, 2001 WOW!! I never thought I would be Photo of the week. I was blown A-way. Thanks for all the nice comments. The black oval mark in the corner is a reflection from the pressure plate in my old trusty Canon EF-M. I love to combine IR film with my fisheye lens. I like this photo because at first glance people don't notice the fisheye distortion first, but rather the image. Link to comment
daniel flather 0 Posted October 9, 2001 Some people say there is too much contrast. I like my IR photo's with the contrast to the max. I rate the film at ISO 10 with a 87C filter between the film rails and develop in ID-11 for 8 minutes. IR can be done so many ways it's not funny. Some people like less contrast some like more. The dodging, I admit is messy (in PS), but some detail was lost when scanned on my $99 flatbed, my PS skills are lacking (for a better word). But it is all personal taste and I do appreciate all types of comments, I can learn from them. Link to comment
NK Guy 5 Posted October 9, 2001 The "distracting" dark oblong is caused by a cutout notch in the pressure plate. It results in lower reflectivity. http://www.grocible.com/photo/eos-ir.html It's a nice photo, though. As noted by other people, I like the way it's not obviously a fisheye shot. Link to comment
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