"Sunset at Deception Pass"

Thank you both for your feedback. You both are fine example of what a make this site a true learning experience and source of inspiration. Robert, no problem with your English here, so apology is absolutely not necessary. ^_^

We're all here to learn, so may I ask the person whom rated "bad" (2) for aesthetic and originality to please elaborate a suggestion for improvement? Thanks.

Very good

Geez, Wilson, what did you do to piss these people off??? Take great pictures and this is what happens? I am a great fan of yours and this picture is no exception. Great capture of a beautiful sky.

Don't look at me i don't "grudge rate".

Thanks for your feeback.

 

Paul, I certainly did not imply you at all. You had already given me a valuable feedback regarding the saturation, thanks again. As for the "grudge rate," neither do I.

 

I would just like to hear it from "the source" of what's bad, and what can improve, really. Come on, lets share. ^_^

Wilson, a wonderful sunset. I like as is with the sunlight playing on the clouds.

Wilson: Paul's comments are honest, polite and contain some effective technical comments. BTW shortly after I made observations on one of your images I received some counter-ratings and remarks by a party who happens to like your pictures and briefly appointed himself your enforcer. I too have made numerous sunset exposures and as Paul has noted in some postings, the light coming into the lens exceeds the dynamic range of the film or sensor so you get what you see here. Manipulation won't help much. I even spent one evening carefully shooting a sunset and bracketing and no diff at all. Sunsets are sunsets see my attempts at http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1791826&size=lg. The critique Paul offers is valid.

Noted your comment with thanks.

 

John, I never accused Paul of any that you had stated, and I'm sure that you also found my reply as honest, polite and contains effective technical perspective as well. I understand Paul's perspective, and I just wanted to provide mine in return. Pure and simple.

 

John, I also understand the limited dynamic range in sunset picture, and other than combining two separate exposure, one for the shadow, and one for the brights, I agree that even all the bracketing one does, one will never extract all the available detail from a sunset image. But this was not part of the debate to begin with. I stand firm that for PN's maximum size of 1024 pixel, it doesn't matter if I used an A80 or a D70. OTOH, if I were required to make a 24x30" print, I would definitely prefer a 4x5 E6.

 

As for other "party," it is beyond my control and I feel it's best that you converse directly to that member.

 

John, thank you for your valuable insights and opinion. ^_^

Of interest. My coolpix 4500 can generate excellent 11 x 17 prints, with good sharpness, using an Epson 1280..but the cost of ink is painful. I don't see the point either of the HUGE PRINT.

John, to compare note, depending on images, the A80 can yield an 11x14" just fine. I once tried output it at 12x18" for 3 bucks with Costco's Noritsu lab, and it is NOT acceptable (might fair better from a 1280 or 2200, haven't tried yet.) OTOH, I had printed a D70's (or similar) file at 12x18" (for wedding reception purpose) from the same lab with very good result.

 

I have to agree that generally, the Epson's output is excellent, but the ink cost....I sometimes wonder if it's cheaper to just buy a whole new Epson printer every time I need to replace ink cartridges.

Large print at high resolution takes almost 2 hours.....print quality is "wow" however.

This is something that any passerby that read everything above may find interesting.

what a beautiful you've seen and taken a picture ..

I like the saturation of the sky, as well as the color range on the rest of the image; as for the composition, it is remarkably well achieved. Nice picture, indeed!

beautiful shot !

I'd flip the shot on it's head and crop just above the mid cloud bank and turn it into a ultra wide angle composition.