Romantic passion

Maria, if you go just a bit more South from Salerno you can find Seas and beaches with colors like Pacific Islands. 20 years ago I spend few weeks as windsurfing instructor at Lipari Club Med, and I remember those magic places like Panarea, Filicudi ... islands.

Thanks Jacques. Italy is really a wonderful place for nature, but i live here and, when i simply go wolking, fore some minutes of relax, i stay in Salerno, or in Florence, where i live for twoo weeks at mounth. I'm just thinking for my holliday and you suggestion is precious.

Damn-beautiful, Maria:-)

I can feel that Romance here...

I tend to agree with Nikos. It is a nice "capture", as he says, meaning that the photographer had to be open to the moment and ready to take the photo. That said, it was not exactly a "decisive moment".

 

Also, it suffers somewhat in the originality department, and while I think most people will have a warm initial response to the situation, the photo seems overly sentimental to me, bordering on kitschy. I might expect to see a photo like this for sale in a shopping mall store, with some kind of "inspiring" quote or sappy poem in the corner. Or perhaps on some kind of greeting card.

 

Except the mall or greeting card photo would be technically better, sharper and with better light, especially on the couple. Maybe a "god beam" shining down, or something. The composition is very conventional.

 

All that being said, I would say that it is a somewhat above average photo, which many beginners would be delighted to have taken. But it is not the work of a master by a long stretch. I have a difficult time understanding the overwhelmingly positive response, and I suspect that Maria has cultivated a group of friends on the site who aren't being sufficiently critical. All the comments in Italian make me think that a bit of national pride might be at work, too. None of this is a good thing for the development of any artist, although better than uniform hostility, indifference, or discouragement, to be sure. But Maria doesn't seem to be in much danger of receiving a lot of that these days on photo.net.

 

Brian, what is your problem? You can see the people that rat my picture comes from all the planet. But youre rigt, The planet is my land and my nationality. I suppose is not the same thing for you that generally prefer your county.

Does anyone remember Anna Pagnacco?

Sorry but less than average for me. The light is very poor, as is the colour balance. The composition works but the subject itself reminds me of the pics you get in magazines, to accompany the soppy stories for desperately lonely teenage girls.

G. Thanks for your opinion. I'm not a romantic teeage girl and not a disperated old woman. I'm a person the looks at what happen at the other people and, generally, around me. Love, passion, hate, happiness, sedness, a storm, a rainbow...are all thinks that happen. My eye are on the planet for capture. If you do not like love you can live your life without.

For the fact of the colors, i do not like to alterare the reality with ps. I use this program only for make the color of the digitalized picture more like the printed version. I'm sorry, but i repeat, it was not a wonderful day, not a wonderful sea, not a wonderful beach. Consider this photo lake a picture of en event, like journalistic picture. Wen i'll do maturalistic photos i'll chouse, for sure, a better place, a better moment of the day, a better light, better subject...ect. But i repeat, i'not affreid from love or others emotiones. So, may be, nexst time i'll take a foto of two people that are tolking about problems and so thay will be sed. What do you think about sedness?

Lannie, who is Anna Pagnacco?

Maria I have nothing against love, but I do not like 'cliche' representations of it very much. I only gave my opinion. Your reaction is so funny. No need to be so defensive!

Although you admit yourself that conditions and the resulting photo were not optimal in this instance, you must surely see that the high ratings contradict this statement. Please be open to the relatively small number of viewers who do not appreciate this picture so much - it should come easy to you considering there are so many that seem to adore it!

G, it was not necessary to tolk about teenage girls or old woman. You can see my pself portrait and the one that i postend on my page here. I'm not the first and not the second. Moreover if i coud, nothig autorize eachone to offend the others. The problem of the love or others human passions is that exist, and if you whant to see the life, you have to consider all. Please give an eye on my portfolio and tell to me if you can see this kind of human passion in other photos of maine.

Maria, I was talking of the type of people that cliche romantic pictures and stories appeal to - not you.

I saw all your other pictures already and the people pictures didn't strike me very much as capturing anything special, out of the ordinary, touching, and they weren't shot in an original way. I preferred your nature photos. "On the way to be good" was my personal favourite, but that too seems over-rated as it is still not a masterpiece imo.

Thanks for your opinion. I, generally, like your photo. I'm a person that like to consider a lot thinks. To do, in avery moment, the same photo, nature, nature, nature,....sorry, but for me is restrictive. Thanks again.

Sorry to mention Anna--not a good analogy.

Indeed Lannie! Beside their nationality, the person and the pictures seem quite different IMO ... although the 'claque' is very similar... and that is for sure the root of many quarrels and frustration as you can often see on Pnet...

Brian, i've not any interest to create a claque. My job is anotheone. I do not sail my pictures. Only painting. You can visit my web site and know me. Photography is somethink that i love. I'm on this site for learn not for recive any insult. Thare is, in insult, a border. Out of this you toch somethink that is personal, and this is not the site.

I think that Brian summed things up nicely. It's a nice shot, but just nice. For me the main reason this image falls short of being great is the lighting. It's rather bland.

 

Taken under better lighting conditions, possibly with less DOF, and better exposure control to avoid the over exposed surf at the top right would result in a very good image. Getting all of those elements to fall into place is very difficult, but that's what separates the nice shots from the truly great ones.

This is somewhat off-topic, but since it has come up, let me just say this: the Critique Forum on photo.net is not mainly about photo-sharing. Its purpose is "critique".

 

By photo-sharing, I mean the Internet equivalent of pulling out your latest roll of snaps at a party and having people make polite and friendly -- if somewhat bored -- comments. There are plenty of sites for that, and photo.net is one of them -- as long as you don't submit the photos for critique. But if you make a Critique Request, you should assume that the photo will be critiqued -- that it will become meat for discussion. If you aren't prepared to accept that, probably submitting the photo for critique is not a good idea.

 

Moreover, you also need to accept that the critiques will not only be for your benefit but will also be aimed at the wider audience of those who view the photo and read the comments -- that the comments on a photo are not a dialog with you but potentially a discussion, in which you are only one of the participants.

 

When a photograph or photographer is relatively obscure on the site, the main audience for the comments will be the photographer, since the commenters will know that few other people will read the comments. When a photograph or photographer is visible -- for example, a photo reaches the Top Photos pages --- the comments can quite legitimately address themselves to the wider audience which will view the photo and read the comments.

 

Maria, it isn't playing the game properly to react to these criticisms defensively by talking about your feelings, etc, implying that the critics are trampling on them, that they are motivated by envy and so forth, and that they ought to feel guilty for not playing along with the photo-sharing ritual. Your feelings are irrelevant, and envy is almost certainly not the motivation of the critics. What is relevant is the photograph, and whether it is good or bad. If you think the photograph merits praise and that the critics are wrong, then say why. But don't act all shocked and aggrieved that someone is criticizing the photo. Frankly, it makes you look ridiculous, not the critic. You don't have to agree with the criticisms, but it is silly to post the photos here for critique, and then imply with every defensive answer to the critic that any criticism that isn't heavily sugared with praise is not legitimate.

 

By the way, Lannie, I suspect it was Jeremy who deleted your comment. You will note that he also deleted several other comments, mostly from Rob Portnoy, at the same time.

 

 

Brian, the reason of my behavior in fact of citicism is that Mr Portnoy and a lot of people that do not have any portfolio attacked me with a lot of comment that havent any common sens. I'm sure that was at the list, "friends" of him. Constructive critique is what i think is the normal behabiur of an aducated and not envious person.

That's good to know, Brian. By the way, I really would like to see more of your photos, if you can ever find the time.

I fell like a baby in a first class of primary scool. Sincerely, i do not understand the reason of a so big discursion. We are not deciding the destny of the planet. I whant to tranquillize who is on this site for pobblytici on for sail photos. I do not sail my picture. I'm a phicicist, a painter. You are not threaten by me.

Maria! Pnet is a huge kindergarten!...

EDIT: sometime a masquerade... By the 'whay' who is behind the mask here?

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Photo.net site is a free and open site, with all of the benefits and liabilities that that entails, Jaques.

 

I doubt that we will ever have the best photos on the top photo pages. The masses like what they like, and I do not know how we can guarantee that the best photos will gain the greatest visibility without losing some of the attributes that make this a truly wonderful place to come and spend a few minutes--or hours.

 

Yes, there are cliques here, and, no, they do not promote the site as a gallery, but they do at times provide for a bit of relaxation and comic relief.

 

The only response I have to the most strident critics is that they please not try to see conspiracy in everything. Truly concerted attempts to manipulate the ratings are probably quite rare.

Maria, as if it weren't enough that you cannot accept critique and honest opinion graciously, you then show extremely immature behaviour by immediate revenge rating! Visitors can see here a 3/3 rate by Maria in my folder very soon after I placed 3/3 on this photo.

Jacques, I resemble that remark. ;)))