Gold Spirit 01

Photographer's Request for Critique

Excellent color saturation, nice angle, love the picture

very nice job of recoloring. I'm guessing

Dimitar, too irreal but nice... I'd suppress or replace that yellow area at the bottom center...Regards,

Very different from all of your others photos but very nice.I love that colours.

seems a bit too artificial -great composition!

I like the composition but the colours are too garish for my taste.

Breath taking~

Very good image and nice colour!!!!

mmmhh...marvelous! ;-)

Some photographers get so used to seeing and using dull, dead, dreary, denuded, dreadful digital that whenever they see a fuji or agfa, they cant believe what they see, and figure it must be some magic computor program that did thejob. They are also so blown away by the lovely rich colors that they feel it is oversaturated.. Well, compared to digital, sure, it is..re this shot, no critique, just congratulations. Great color contrasts, strict composition, and interesting with the river forking, good balance of light and shadow, though darker shadows, yes I miss some darker contrast, may have shown up if it was half a stop less, feeling of gentle, but hurried movement in the water....This is what the photographer saw, this is what agfa captured..BTW, Dimitar, what is the lens mm and maker????

i'm just speechless! i've never seen so many beautiful colours in one picture!

Whether by film or digital manipulation (or both), the saturation is too much. I suspect that the attached is closer to what your eye saw.

 

I see Tom Turk is still on his jag about the lens bringing out better colors. Tom, the Zeiss lenses will give you less chromatic (not to mention spherical) aberration. They won't necessarily give you BRIGHTER colors. That will depend more on using a primary versus a zoom, or any arrangement that simply gives you fewer layers of glass to look through. CLEAR glass that gives bright colors is available from a number of manufacturers.

Resolution and contrast effect color when it comes to lenses,the lack of the above tends to mute color in different degrees depending on the lens.The colors we see here have nothing to do with lenses or film but everything to do with saturation during post proccesing.As you know I like color but try to achieve most of my saturation from underexposing,use of filters such as a polarizer when applicable and emulsions such as Velvia.A slight tweak of the saturation slider to enhance the film characteristics will still not achieve color like this unless you are pushing close to 50 percent on the slider.My point is for Tom Turk's comments and NOT for this image specifically.

 

Regarding this image...I like the composition and all of the elements therein.The yellow blob in the foreground is distracting and should be removed.I also like the colors from a fantasy point of view but they are way over the top IMO.

 

Lanie's version is more realistic but on the conservative side I believe,proper lighting and saturated film will give you more pop than her rendition but understand her statement.I do see that the unmanipulated box was not checked so I do not think the photographer was trying to pull a fast one here.

Thomas, my version is more conservative, but even there the blue of the water seems a little intense. I've crossed and hiked beside hundreds (or maybe thousands) of miles of mountain streams, and that particular color of blue in the water under trees is very rare--even in the Andes.

A little too saturated for my taste, but I enjoy the composition. It has a very three dimensional quality.

The Lannies version is fine for the same scene on a slightly overcast day. With brilliant sunshine, I have no problems with the above photo, blue light for midday influencing the water..and giving us that btight white spot. This was probably shot with a prime, probably one with very few elements to eat up the colors,,and maybe a zeiss or schneider.. Lannie says the blue is very rare, but not impossible. The photog. doesnt say too much..Having run through Lannies uploaded photos, I noticed that when the doctored one shown here by Lannie is compared to those shot by Lannie thru the Olympus digital, there is a remarkable likeness. The doctored one seems to have been degraded to the Olympus digital level. Probably the best that Olympus can do, and maybe that is what is now the accepted norm for Lannie..The Leica forum had some shots with the new Leica 280mm prime, of orchids in Singapore, shot on fuji, and I think that would have brought out the same comments to those getting used to the drab digital, too much saturation, unnatural color, etc..I feel the digital crowd, to defend their degraded colors, will make the same comment on 99% of Bo Jensens 1000 zeiss shots on photo4u.dk. One digital user even accused me of being an atheist photographer, for daring to suggest that film would have brightened up his dreary shots...having failed to get any more color or saturation from wiggling his computors.. Maybe he felt we should all emrace the new religion...Jen Selwa, above, says too saturated..Her work is with Canon.Digital. That is her new reference and her present norm..her uploads show JUST THAT.. See what I mean.

Over the years I've shot everything from a digital Elf to 8X10 Ektachrome, and in my opinion these colors are clearly not real. I have absolutely no problem with that from a philosophical standpoint, but from an aesthetic standpoint I think this is severely overdone.

Hypersaturated images of nature are certainly popular these days--they startle and attract attention and fit well with much of today's popular culture. This probably explains the large number of hypersaturated nature images that appear on the first gallery page. Although I wonder whether constant exposure to such images doesn't tend to degrade our sensitivity to the beauty of nature's subtle colors, I admit I am often attracted to photographs that have had some color enhancement. However, although this image has nice compostion, I think the post-processing is vastly overdone, resulting in an image that is harsh and garish. I see nothing wrong with enjoying photomanipulations--all photographs are, in one way or another, manipulations of reality.However, the argument that some have made that these colors can be found anywhere in the natural world is, in my opinion, fautuous. There is nothing wrong with liking such an image--if you do--but why rationalize it?

nice composition, but too much saturated

Gianfranco

Time for Dimitar to come on and clear the air..focal length, lens, aperture and speed, any manipulation in development or printing or in photoshop..Maybe he is trying to duplicate the shot to show it can be done..

Forget the technical details. Just enjoy those beautiful colors.

Let's turn to some people that not only understood color but lived it.

Paul Klee - "Color and I are one."

Andre Derain - Use color "like sticks of dynamite."

Vasily Kandinsky - "Color directly influences the soul. Color is the keyboard, the eyes are the hammers, the soul is the piano with many strings. The artist is the hand that plays, touching one key or another purposively, to cause vibrations in the soul."

It's funny that some are taking this opportunity to say how much better film is for colour.

As if this colour came straight from film.

a pleasing image in a whacky kind of way but I would bet the farm and kids that this is not what the lens recorded that day