Guest Guest Posted February 18, 2004 This is excellent seeing, as well as a balanced study in shapes, lines, light, shadow, and subdued color. Composition is excellent, although I would quibble with the camera positioning to tweak it so not to have the doorway cut into the edge of the arches so tightly. As to "rule of thirds", incorporating this into your investigatory "seeing" is always an asset, so that when it doesn't "work" you then know you've hit on something better (be that centering or skewing your focal point even more). best - Gary Link to comment
ken_thalheimer 3,739 Posted February 18, 2004 I think this to be one of your best shots to date. A possible tighter crop at the sides? Link to comment
photos of hans koot 0 Posted February 18, 2004 I want to say; It's all been said (and more) so i won't add any comment on it, except that I have no comments...... congrats with this beatifull image. Link to comment
livvie 0 Posted February 19, 2004 i would echo jims comments on the colours and hannas on the fact it shows that with a good eye you can find a good shot anywhere ... who needs rome! lol excellent shot and super recent diversifications jen! Link to comment
gabrielma 0 Posted February 19, 2004 Congratulations Jennifer! I like this too, perhaps it could use a bit more contrast, but that's just me, it still works.You should know that you are lucky to have found some dedicated people who actually help you; I've found that most of the time I attract people who like to rate my stuff because they don't like it, not the other way around (I've had to reload certain pics because of dedicated slammers in the past); that has changed lately, but still I have hardly (with some notable exceptions) had anybody actually give me constructive feedback (whether good or bad, constructive is by far best when you're trying to grow). Treasure it. Again, kudos. Link to comment
jeff_fiore 0 Posted February 19, 2004 I think what make this stand out from other "arch" shots are: 1. The darkness of the first arch frames the photo nicely while drawing your eyes in. 2. The off-centered alignment of the arches on the right (all aligned on the right side) along with the light and dark areas add alot of dynamics and interest. 3. The arch on the left side adds a bit of visual interest and averts the "monotonous archs all lined in a row photo". 4. Of course, excellent exposure ,color and overall excellent composition. You are right, by criticizing other photos objectively helps improve your own - it make you more objective of your own photos. Also, whether you agree or not with critiques of your own work doesn't matter as long as you learn from them. You have to be your own worst critic or you will never improve. I think you showed that with this photo. It is much better than you thought. As far as my work is concerned, I really don't think they are really that good (because I am my own worst critic and they are not where I want them to be)so I am pleasantly suprised at the ratings and comments of some photos. For example, your comments on my Valentine rose is greatly appreciated especially because you saw what I tried to achieve with the compostion and lighting (which, by the way, I learned from studying other photos on PN). Link to comment
thomas_turk 0 Posted February 19, 2004 I doubly agree with Erin, thirds, what thirds...Some flavour of the week rule..Forget them, I dont see them in jaymaisel.com, a 40 yr US top pro with 1000 stunning shots on his site..What an education.... To continue, although this is a strict, clear, and perfectly balanced composition, it lacks just a touch of life, any life, even a blurred figure moving through, anywhere, or, imagine ...if a figures wearing white or orange shirt just got lit up by the lamps,..If u had waited a little, would anybody have shown up?? I think intense study of sites such as Jays and photos4u.dk, also with 1000 stunning shots on his site, help ones composition tremendously, much more than the nice shot, great shot, super color etc comments from most viewers, or the often harsh criticism from some others, ie myself......and..it costs u nothing...I stopped shooting for weeks when I got into intensely studying these two sites, then came out with a much clearer idea of what to look for.. Link to comment
jennifercatron 11 Posted February 19, 2004 No there wouldn't have been anyone in this shot if I had waited for hours, however, if I went at about five am or so I could have caught the commuter crowd. I will check out the sites you mentioned and see what I can learn. Thanks. Link to comment
louis1 0 Posted February 19, 2004 Jennifer having read your comments encouraging us to comment on your work and we should "go out there" and comment on others etc. I feel ill. YOU deleted and reposted an image because my comment that your image of a wax man was "fun but really another persons art" was not to your liking. Do correct me if I am wrong or misunderstand your censoring of comments. Link to comment
jennifercatron 11 Posted February 20, 2004 If you look at that image you will see that I fixed some of the elements in it, and I reposted it because the comments that were given helped me improve it. I never have a problem with someone dissing me, or my work. It's part of the process, and it's part of how we harden ourselves to the really tough critics that come in the real world. Link to comment
louis1 0 Posted February 20, 2004 It surprised me that I had made the only comment at that time and within hours it was removed. Such a Coincidence. Do tell me what "elements" you changed. Link to comment
jennifercatron 11 Posted February 20, 2004 You weren't the only comment, the other comment was that the lavender walls were too light. I ended up doing three other versions of the piece after that. Link to comment
louis1 0 Posted February 20, 2004 Jennifer my apologies. Should you wish to change an image you can without deleting and reposting using edit image or put the alternative up attached to a comment (the best way-no point in comments/changes if others cannot see them) or post as a separate image saying this is version mkII. Louis Link to comment
jennifercatron 11 Posted February 20, 2004 But many times the picture is rated based on the original picture inserted, and if I change an image I like to know how it's taken by the general public, and I don't have enough space to have all versions downloaded. I understand that some people read all the comments, but many don't. Thus that is my reasoning. You are more than welcome to duplicate the comments you wrote prior, and even comment on the new version whether it was better or worse than the original that was inserted. Link to comment
jennifercatron 11 Posted March 1, 2004 I don't know, but everyone seemed to love it. But I think you're right, it's a great place to start adding some interest, some people, a dog, etc... just to get some more interest in the shadows. Don't worry, I see what you're saying completely. Link to comment
jennifercatron 11 Posted March 2, 2004 It has recieved a lot of attention. Im very flattered that people find it so "bewitching". Link to comment
scotshot 0 Posted March 31, 2004 Another arch shot! BUT this is better than most it makes you want to walk in to the shot, just to look and see what's around that corner. Great shot, i think your best. Regards, Jim. Link to comment
sapphire 0 Posted April 10, 2004 I happen to think that you did follow the traditional rule of thirds, just not in the traditional manner. You placed your black on the left, equally weighted with detailed midtones on the right, and the beautiful illuminating glow of the sun in the middle. Do it again with some of your farm shots. Bravo! Link to comment
martianflash 0 Posted August 11, 2004 the step in the right side foreground is distracting to me. Other than that it is a good image. Link to comment
jennifercatron 11 Posted August 11, 2004 It's not a step. It's actually molding on the wall. I can see what you mean though. However, I liked it a little more balanced this whay and it throws the arch in the appropriate space on the frame. Thanks for the comment though. Link to comment
streetlevel 0 Posted August 19, 2004 the interplay of light on the floor really is nice, and the negative space on the upper left anchors this image nicely. I cannot tell from this size if the column on the far right of the frame is really in focus, I would love it to seem sharper, if only to give an alternate focal point than the receding arches. Overall, this is going in my favorites file...6/6 Link to comment
oswegophoto 1 Posted March 8, 2005 Jeff Fiore's right about that little sliver of an arch on the left: it's crucial. My eye ricochets from right to left, back to right, on its way into the dim distance. Drawn in, indeed. Lovely shadows, enchanting light. Link to comment
jennifercatron 11 Posted March 8, 2005 This seems to be a favorite among most people here on the site. It was taken in complete darkness with just a tiny light lit on the left side. It was a long exposure, and I figured it would be an awful shot, but that goes to show you that once you take the shot, the photograph takes on a life all it's own, and this one wanted to live. Link to comment
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