pnital 36 Posted September 29, 2010 Another dance performed by Anat Gregorio, Ido Tadmor and Yoni Suthi. It is another fraction of a second of a 22 minutes dance. Thanks for viewing. Link to comment
ruudalbers 1 Posted September 29, 2010 Beautiful work with very nice lighting, Pnina! Link to comment
gordonjb 10,860 Posted September 29, 2010 I like your use of space here with a nice flow across the frame. Having both dancers facial expressions in view adds to the drama and intensity. I might have been tempted to see if a bit more of that facial detail could be coaxed from the raw file without it upstaging the current focal points. Link to comment
pnital 36 Posted September 30, 2010 Ruud, for your constant support.Gordon, thanks for your point about their faces I tried to lighten it a very tiny bit.I upload it for yu to see . I wanted it to be a bit blurred in the dark ,so the hand touch would be the real point of interest. what do you think? Link to comment
gordonjb 10,860 Posted September 30, 2010 Pnina, One of the pitfalls of being specific about suggestions regarding other photographers work ( something of which I am often guilty ) is the fact that from the outside we can only surmise the intentions of the photographer. In this case your desire to have the hands as the focal point of the image sets up my suggestion regarding the faces as counter productive. Given the relative uniformity of the lighting on the bodies a dodging and burning layer could be used to selectively draw attention to or remove attention from whatever aspects best suit the intentions of the photographer. I did a quick and sloppy adjustment to illustrate an attempt to make the hands the focus . In hindsight I went too far with the lightening of the hands however hopefully the illustration is still illustrative :-) Link to comment
pnital 36 Posted September 30, 2010 Thanks for taking the time and uploading your illustration, I understand it ,but it is too lighted for me, I like the darker version of mine as it has a bit of a mystery(.... a KIND of a touch....),I do like your point about lighting the faces and I will use this second version. I think that it can also be a screen difference (and I think the subject was mentioned once in the forums).when I see my work at my son's screen they look different not as they look on my screen. So I understand that sometimes a work is looked differently in a photographer's eyes vs. viewers eyes .In any event I think that it is an important exchange and learning! And thanks again for your point of view and advice. Link to comment
Jack McRitchie 150 Posted October 1, 2010 Just love this one, Pnina, a real gem. The sensation is of bodies floating in the vastness of space. The 1940's film noir lighting and the rather daring angle at which the female dancer is photographed only adds to the dramatic effect. A fitting picture to send our way before your trip. ps: I also like Gordon's more explicit rendering. It has a more defined feeling but it produces a different and distinctive effect. Here it is a matter of taste and l happen to like both. It's funny Gordon and I had a little dialogue on one of his recent pictures and the discussion touched on commitment. Here I feel that he was more committed to a certain vision on your picture than he was on the his own. You can go to his site and see for yourself if you are curious to what I'm referring to. Link to comment
pnital 36 Posted October 1, 2010 Thanks for your nice interpretation, I think that film noir can fit my intention to a low key B/W (as far as I know).As I have explained to Gordon I wanted the touch of hands to be the center for thought provoking vs. and as a contrast to the previous one. The low Key here, was fitting my intentions. As I hope, my work is developing toward "plowing" deeper into human existence. Joys, sorrow,violence , softness etc. "Life as a dance" is one of my ways of expressing it indirectly through associations, yes commitment to my expression and I think to the interested viewer as well.I like Gordon's work ( btw, writing there I was not referring to his photo that you have commented on ,only adding my thoughts to the general dialogue), and his technic, and I appreciate his comments on my work (as I appreciate yours and some others because of the thoughtful evaluations ) as it helps me to see how my work is seen and felt by the viewers. I learn, and I think both of you are good teachers.;-)) Link to comment
hamidfarzandian 0 Posted October 1, 2010 Very effective and attractive moody artwork, shot at the peak moment, and also eye-catching p/p work. I suggest you apply the changes Gordon mentioned, using a layer mask and selectively applying it just to faces in percentages of your desire. Its a simple way to get more details selectively and non-destructively. My best regards.Hamid. Link to comment
jeffl7 0 Posted October 2, 2010 Bringing out his face a little bit adds to the drama and makes the scene seem less about gracefully floundering bodies and more a statement about people. I think this is an example of what I mean about your dance photos not being necessarily prettily posed cartoons but visually complex pieces. Link to comment
pnital 36 Posted October 2, 2010 Hamid, thanks for your visit and offer, I changed it to the more lighted faces as Gordon offered (and you too, it takes time to show) I still want the whole scene low Key B/W.(I will upload the first version after the change will appear) Jeff, thanks for your evaluation, I think as well that brightening a bit their faces increases the meaning of the scene and touch. Thanks for your kind words about "visually complex ", as I wrote before it is my indirect perception of expression / statement ,(as you have called it ),dealing with the variety of human existence. Link to comment
marc21664877899 0 Posted October 3, 2010 This is absolutely perfect, fine tones and composition. Excellent shot. Link to comment
pnital 36 Posted October 3, 2010 Thanks Marc for your feedback.(I upload the first version ) Link to comment
Donna Stavis 0 Posted October 8, 2010 This is special. I love many aspects of it: the light falling on their bodies and shadows, her look at him, the shape their two bodies form as one, the way they seem to be free-falling in blackness together -- a sort of Adam and Eve -- with the sexual undercurrents and explicitness, and the placement on the photo. The nit -- his write eye pulls my attention in a negative way because of the white area. For some reason, his jeans look amazing in this. I see you in this -- your approach to photographing women and women dancers, your tendency to work with motifs, your soul in art and appreciation of the wonders of human form and relationships. Link to comment
kallol 1 Posted October 8, 2010 Very nicely composed, Pnina...wonderful use of fallen legs to compose the image in almost along the diagonals...beautiful contrast to enhance the mood the episode...my best Link to comment
3m 0 Posted October 10, 2010 Pnina, The overall composition of the floating bodies in the black space, is what made me click in first instance on this image, and it really is very gracefully composed within the frame. I think that this must be your 2nd version (with a bit more light on the dancers' faces) since they seem perfectly lit, to me. The tender, but equally strong holding of hands grabs the viewer's attention almost immediately, imo, since both dancers' faces are turned towards their hands, as well as towards each other in the L lower half of the frame. Jack's referal to a film noir light connotation was well put, and seems fitting here as well. Very powerful and beautifully rendered, Pnina! -- I think that you really succeeded beautifully in delivering the emotions and passions of these two dancers to the viewers of your photograph... Compliments & warm regards to you, Marjolein Link to comment
192 0 Posted October 14, 2010 An extra-ordinary drama shot!Unique and well done.I really appreciate your view point and shaped it as well as possible.The b&w makes your shot great!Regards(Bobby). Link to comment
pnital 36 Posted October 16, 2010 Donna, thanks for your interesting commentary of your feeling (as well as the nit...;-)). The light was on his eye and jaw, and for me it was focusing his look and a lead to her . Thanks for your integrity writing your point of view which is important. Kallol , thanks for your feedback ( on both), I appreciate it. Marjolein, Yes ,it is the second version ( I have uploaded the first one along the thread).Thanks a lot for taking the time as I know you are busy with your new Joy ( really great joy! And as I know also a lot of work...;-)), Thanks for your feelings while observing this scene. It is so interesting for me to read what my visitors think, as it is important to me to communicate the feelings I have had while the dancers performed the dance creation, and expressing some of human life relations. Bobby, thanks for stopping by and your nice feedback, which I appreciate much as well. Link to comment
tibig 0 Posted October 18, 2010 I like this a lot: well balanced composition but then it has tension, it dances it puzzles. And then one discovers the reflection in the floor and the enjoying goes on.Regards, Tibi Link to comment
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