'The Eyes of the World Are on Iran' © 2009, John Crosley, All Rights Reserved

dear john

i am realy happy to see im not alone in this way. becouse i realy belive the butterfly effect

thanks for your wanderful help

the time of war is over and its time to fight with art

I was unaware the conflict in Iran was over; where have I been (oh, in Ukraine, that's right, but I read the NY Times and watch CNN).

But I miss things sometimes.

As to the 'butterfly effect' it made a wonderful story but I believe it's mostly fictitious; not enough mass in a single butterfly to affect chaotic systems - perhaps even thousands or more of butterflies except under the most extreme and unusual conditions.

Sometimes thing do change because of unusual coincidences, but I believe not for casual reasons.

I am happy if war is over, but will not be happy until all renounce a goal of blowing up tiny Israel (and I am not particularly a supporter of Israel, just an opponent f killing for religious sectarian reasons by anyone, group or nation.

So, I withhold judgment until I learn more.

John (Crosley)

Thank you for the illustration you posted as a link.

It is best to resize these things to a much smaller size in an image editing program so they can be viewed as an entirety without scrolling, as I cannot see it all on my screen at once and am a bit confused, although it looks quite 'original'.

My best.

John (Crosley)

Thank you

but Iran does not need worlds` help

I don't know if Iran needs world's help or not.

Two years or so ago I saw this Iranian (Persian) woman and she held up this sign for me to photograph, it carried this message and she urged me to shoot this photo by holding this message in front of her face.

It's her message, not mine.

I just take photos; it's her message, not mine.

I have nothing to propound in this internecene fight, but I am always for justice, wherever that may lie, but I do not pretend to have the answers.

Perhaps you should address your remark to her, not me, as I'm underqualified for this dispute.

john

John (Crosley)

revolution gone sour.

A 'revolution' only describes something that was successful. (note the past tense.)

A 'revolt' describes something that has not yet been successful. (note also the verb tense.)

I think, in your view, maybe this whole affair may have been revolting?

I do not take sides; this is for the word play only and I do not editorialize here on who has or had the better side in the Iran-Iran internal dispute as that is for Iranians and Iranian/Persian watchers who have a stake in the outcome; I do not. In pari delicto.

john

John (Crosley)

I see the play on words. I am also aware of what is "past tense". That aside, the last time I spoke to Ayatollah Khomeini (that was before he went to paradise, or wherever he went -or didn't went) he (the Ayatollah) assured me that his islamic takeover was sucessful and therefore I conclude that it was indeed a revolution. As for "revolting"? I'm sure Jimmy Carter and the embassy hostages found it revolting. One other thing. It is a natural law outside the quantum world (inside that world anything is possible) that one cannot have their cake and eat it too. That's a fact and someone should explain that fact to this little girl and to her parents who ask for the revolution in the first place. The parents of Neda Agha-Soltan  learned that fact the hard way; the very hardest hard way.

1. This is not a little girl but a grown woman, probably a student and very beautiful as are many Persian women.

2.  This protest was to protest the killing of Neda. The slogan was 'we are all Neda'. It took place right after her death June 2009.

3.  Everyone wore something green to identify themselves with the protestors.

Still, until the protestors disavowed blowing YOU out of your flat in Israel, I felt in pari delicto -- who cares really wins if the victor gets the spoils of blowing YOU to kingdom come.

No one so far of the protestors has spoken vocally to that end, I am afraid, and when they do, I might reconsider taking sides, but until YOu are secure in your self-described small flat in Israel, then I will not take sides and they can have their internal struggles.

I hope that is one thing we DO agree on.

Mazeltov.

john

John (Crosley)

No.  Her life was worth more than me and my little apartment. What's his name above is the one who needs help.

Meir, don't undersell yourself or your importance.

A pensioner in his self-described small flat in Israel should be free of the terror of threatened nuclear annihilation, I believe, regardless of whether or not he believes his life is of greater or lesser importance than Neda's.

While I am not an ardent Zionist, and certainly not Jewish, I went to undergraduate school with a student population that was 1/3 Jewish, and mingled with workers in the neighborhood, many of whom had the dreaded tattooed numbers on their left forearms symbolizing either slave or concentration camp status which meant on account solely of their Jewishness, they were eventually bound for annihilation under Hitler's 'Final Solution'.

I have thrice been to Dachau, and also been to other sites to reflect.

I'm goyim but not untouched.

People need to be free from terror.

A nation needs to be free from terror.

You need to be free from terror.

The 'protesters', while arguing that they were repressed and thus they were possibly 'terrorized' by an allegedly repressive regime, did not publicly disavow if they did prevail, terrorizing your country and thus you, and so I have withheld my support for them.

On an individual level, I did not feel anybody should be killed for such reasons as young Neda under such circumstances, and Neda made a good symbol since she was apparently 'innocent' acting, which compared with the current regime.

But then I have heard stories of the Shah's regime with its heavy handedness.

As a result, I understand why those he would have certainly have repressed would hate so much those who sponsored the Shah, though I don't condone them or their actions in any way or manner.

Again, Meir, mazeltov.

john

John (Crosley)