aaron_perras 0 Posted August 7, 2003 Photography is about capturing a moment in time. Freezing a feeling or emotion or action in this case. In a picture like "Out through the inside!", it isn't about perfectly composed subjects and text-book lighting. It is about capturing that fraction of a second that tells a story or provokes a feeling from the viewer. It's about being in the right place and the right time. David was there, he captured that moment in time from a perspective that most of us will NEVER see. The fact the surfer's arms are not spread out or we can't see his face only helps to give us a better perspective of the level of difficulty of not only the photo, but also the skill of the surfer himself. Well done, David. Well done. Cheers, Aaron Link to comment
michael_wheeler1 0 Posted August 8, 2003 my girlfriend is now your biggest fan!! thanx Link to comment
vincetylor 0 Posted August 8, 2003 What makes this shot special to me is the end of the tube can be seen. There is just a bit of daylight, land, and I reckon, HOPE! for our surfing buddy here. The frame does not help this in my opinion, but it's also not all that bad either. I have seen thousands like this here in Hawaii. Many more colorful and dramatic. However it is the subtleness and oldtime feel that makes this one quite unique! Link to comment
david_troyer 0 Posted August 8, 2003 Wow... I mean WOW! I just realized that I have the POW. I want to thank everyone,I mean everyone who as taken the time to respond to this image. Both positive and negative,we learn from all critiques. I realize that this image(and all images for that matter) is not for everyone. Everybody has thier own idea of art and what makes a great image. This image for me was the first that I was able to get from behind the surfer with a clear view. I had been trying to get this shot for quite a while.Since then I have been able to nail a few more with natural light and straight processing. I have one in my folder if anyone wants to see this angle with straight processing. As far as the image goes, I did not adjust the color or the contrast in PS. So what you see is what you get. The border was actually done at the photo lab by the tech there. I had no choice in that. I asked for a sloppy border and that was what I got back. This image is the second of a three shot sequence that ran in various surf magazines around the world so some of you may have viewed it before with all of the shots together. As for the reason Icross processed it...Well , it was just an experiment. My editor and I had talked about shooting from the water on overcast days in other ways than B&W. This was only one of our ideas. Maybee I will show you all some of our other ideas in the future. Anyway, thanks again to everyone and I hope you all enjoy my little water shots. Link to comment
david_troyer 0 Posted August 8, 2003 By the way ISIDRO, while you are at home deciding whether or not you like my image or not . I am in the south pacific hopping from island to island on a photo expedition getting more shots of surfer's backs... Enjoy!!! Link to comment
conrad_drake 0 Posted August 8, 2003 Isi stated:You cant deny that most of the praises come from surfers themselves, reason being, is that they relate to the grade of DIFFICULTY in capturing this type of photo much more than the average viewer. I do, to some degree, agree. The technical difficulty in capturing the shot is painfully clear to any surfer. And there are some more asthetic photos in the folder such as "hooking it" which reminds me of ASL's Grambough(sp) - which is meant as the highest complement.But, just as the finer points of dressage, F1 or the tour-de-france are lost on the casual observer, it may not be clear to the non-conniseur what a stunning sight this photograph is.The image captures the essence of a particularly overwhelming and covetted experience in surfing (golfers - think of a ball clearly rolling towards a hole-in-one) Indeed, upon reflection, I'm also struck by how the image draws on symbolism and aesthetic conventions from surfing magazine artworks going back to at least the 70s. Captain Pigdog anyone?Add the inspired choice of cross processing which pulls in colours that I feel resonate with early 70s surfing mags.Personally, I like the composition: the contrast of empty but active & confining space with the concentration of the surfer on the grail of safety represented by the tiny, distant patch of clear water in top right corner. Sure, I'd move some of the lip if I could to emphasise "threat swirling around safety", but this is real life.Nuff said.CD-- speaking of raising hackles amongst those in the know...makes my skin crawl. Link to comment
fya 0 Posted August 9, 2003 What makes this shot special to me is the end of the tube can be seen. There is just a bit of daylight, land, and I reckon, HOPE! for our surfing buddy here. The frame does not help this in my opinion, but it's also not all that bad either. I have seen thousands like this here in Hawaii. Many more colorful and dramatic. However it is the subtleness and oldtime feel that makes this one quite unique! -- Vincent K. Tylor , August 08, 2003; 12:18 A.M. Eastern Vince is right...I blew up the image and voila! that ubiquitous symbol of American good-times appears through the end of the tube. Link to comment
brian l. schiele 0 Posted August 9, 2003 Amazing shot! Compostion is spot on, point of view is excellent. Great look! Brian Link to comment
nick_wilson2 0 Posted August 9, 2003 Conrad Don't you mean Captain Goodvibes? I know because the artist, Tony Edwards, rented my aunt's house during the infamous Captains' years on earth. Perhaps your wave was generated by one of the Captain's Megatonne wave generators? Seriously, you are correct about the standard surfing photo fare. Tubes, BIG waves, perfect line ups and teenage women's backsides. It is difficult to make any cliched subject stand out, which is part of the success of this one. Link to comment
Landrum Kelly 65 Posted August 10, 2003 East coast waves never gave me anything like this to try when I was younger, and so I am not among the cognoscenti here, but the question remains: did he make it or didn't he? It frankly doesn't look like it's going to stay open long enough for him to shoot all the way through. Link to comment
david_troyer 0 Posted August 10, 2003 I do know that I was getting rolled on the bottom after I was thrown over the falls though! But here is the next shot in the sequence, It gives a little more perspective to the action and direction he is headed. I wouldn't be surprised if he made this one. He had the speed, the right angle and most importantly and opening to shoot for. Link to comment
Landrum Kelly 65 Posted August 10, 2003 Wow! The ted.jpg version really shows the opening well, something I couldn't see in the other versions. What shots! This is getting better and better. Link to comment
vincetylor 0 Posted August 11, 2003 Your latest version here looks like he is surfing off into Heaven. Looks also like you are right behind him...off to surf into Lalaland. I almost like it even better! Link to comment
paul-breen 0 Posted August 24, 2003 Picture is fantasic but I think the frame takes from it. My eyes were automatically drawn to the frame instead of the photo. Link to comment
conrad_drake 0 Posted September 19, 2003 Conrad Don't you mean Captain Goodvibes? I know because the artist, Tony Edwards, rented my aunt's house during the infamous Captains' years on earth. -- Nick Wilson , August 09, 2003; 07:32 P.M. Eastern Ah, yes, that's him.And I'm sorry about the photo above - it seems that the URL gets recycled with allsorts of stuff. The photo I wanted to show was of about 6 m of face heaving up onto a reef in Fiji, sucking hard off the reef and with an outrageously heavy lip. And it's ridableBrrr! Link to comment
oh te1ephone 0 Posted January 21, 2004 how did you get the border like that?please email me at roses_drip_black@yahoo.com Link to comment
brendan_klein6 0 Posted June 26, 2007 Troyer, What a nerd! no, but seriously, Dave, you're killing it. I have always liked this shot. Link to comment
lance.d.boyle 0 Posted June 12, 2008 Dave, This is brilliant photography and it means even more to anyone who has been in the greenroom. I am an older guy I surfed in the 60s-80s there was only one guy who photographed from this spot and he is now a legend/pioneer. You are filling a very large set of shoes with this innovative work. His name is George Greenough.....(whispered with great reverence) Keep shootin from there!! Regards Lance D Boyle Link to comment
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