Chaos 1.0

Chaos is the name for any order that produces confusion in our minds....... Part of a

study I'm conducting on the "Aesthetics of Chaos", if there's even such a thing. By the

way, it's supposed to be and look grainy. Thank you for your comments.

Juan Carlos, you have here a very original and beautiful concept and idea. I agree that there can be and is a beauty in chaos and you have a nice image going here. I like how you manage to compose and bring order to the capture, yet the subject is still chaotic. I only disagree in the graininess. I am not fond of grain, though I have used it as a creative tool in a few of my images. I just think it might not work for this one image because of the DOF. Is there a version without the grain to compare too? Aside from that, I would like to see more in a series based on Chaos.

... or in the borderline of chaos and order. I think that the noise makes the shot, because it breaks the image down into its constituent parts and the order of the image disintegrates into the noise.

Interesting concept Juan Carlos, there is some order here....There is DOF, there is well divided warm/cold zones of color palettes, light and shadow and the grainy whole adds to the photo. The diagonal direction adds to the tension between chaos and order.Nice idea and execution.

Esto es rizar el rizo.... :-). Encontrar belleza en lo caotico tiene mucha tela. Y funciona... lineas, texturas, color composicion (ya estamos tratando de ordenar...). Un caotico abrazo Juan Carlos.

It takes a special eye to see the beauty in chaos and your work is always intriguing. In a way it reminds me of someone who is producing a film about beauty in the midst of madness.

Mike, thank you for taking the time to comment; I shot this using film, so the grain is intrinsic to the medium, however that was not accident, I was trying to play with the grain and a lot of different subjects. In the case of chaos, I like the randomness of the grain, as it will never be the same with pixels, where every single one of the points in an image has an exact place and a value.

 

 

 

Dennis, I agree with you, there is an aesthetic embedded in chaos, but: does it have anything to do with chaos itself, or rather with ourselves, trying to bring order into chaos, through reason and logic? Which may lead us into a different question: how closely intertwined are order and beauty? and how about their opposites, chaos and ugliness.....and so on, and so forth; I guess you see where I'm going with this: Questions my friend, questions!

 

 

 

Pnina, thank you for your comments and thoughts about it; you're right, there is order in this shot, actually I think it's rather impossible to have an absolutely chaotic photograph, just the effort of the viewer to understand such a thing, would bring certain order into it.........in the end, more questions!

 

 

 

Jose Ignacio, hombre que lo has dicho muy bien, el tema es precisamente ese, que tan fuerte es la relacion entre lo caotico y el orden; en realidad me parece que uno no puede existir sin el otro, se puede decir que cada uno es la definicion de su opuesto.....entonces: Hay orden o belleza en lo caotico? Lo contrario tambien aplica? vaya que es un tema que da para mucho! saludos,

 

Adan, as you can see by my previous commentaries, this subject is actually driving me mad. Thank you for stopping by to comment. I really appreciate it.

wow. I thought there was a bee in there somewhere. I like your chaos approach.

Thank you Joseph, I just hope it is chaotic enough, while still having certain order to make it aesthetically pleasing -to some, at least- ;)

... I believe the beauty exists in the edge of chaos itself. Now that is a bit of a silly statement because beauty requires an observer, but just like we learned to love certain artistic elements of symmetry, order, proportion, etc., there also exists a different type of symmetry in chaos. Look at this image from a landscape Kah Kit Yoong's of Horseshoe Falls, http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5880114. What can be more chaotic than a patch of turbulent water, but look at the "order" he captured. In the Comments, there, I have posted a representation of the Lorenz patterns that emerge. What incredibly beautiful geometry even in the chaotic.

Thank you Denis, you�ve given me a lot to think about. �Beauty at the edge of Chaos� is a tremendous sentence, as it may imply a few different things, one of which may just be that: chaotic systems have a tendency over time to imitate their behavior, though never replicating exactly the same pattern, thus the seemingly similar results tend to give a false sense of order to the system; which directs me to question the relations between beauty an order. For instance: Taking into consideration the image of horseshoe falls, you pointed out, would it be as powerful, as enticing, if not for the Lorenz attractor pattern, that emerged through a long exposure of the water flow?

http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Nanite

 

Chaos is the last meta ... for our species lost.

 

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... you ask if Kah's shot would be as beautiful if it didn't have the Lorenz attractor. For me, the answer would be no, because it would be a lovely shot, but there would be no deeper resonance. For some other person, perhaps a completely different view, and for most, I'm sure, the attractor would have no "attraction":) But it is like the Eadweard Muybridge photograph of the horse running. Is the single frame with the horse's four feet off the ground more beautiful than the others? For most, probably no. But for me, the moment of discovery is key. I look at that and appreciate the horse, but think, "This was it, this was the moment that he was looking for." That is the thrill of that particular shot. This leads, of course, to content, which as you are well aware is also very important to me.

John, thank you for your visit my friend....Are you a Trekker or a Trekie? Interesting link you posted.

 

Dennis, I completely agree with you, both on the attractiveness of Kah's picture, because of the attractors; and on the importance of substance or content in a photograph

The art of photography is not just about shooting pretty, as �pretty� by itself lacks meaning; but when you add beauty and substance you strike a chord in the viewer�s soul, transforming an image, into art��� Art needs guts! -not just virtuosity, it takes passion-

But we've diverted form chaos, and its role in life and art; like I said before, I strongly believe that order and chaos need each other, in the same way that many opposites need each other to exist. The dichotomy of the universe!

 

But, you did very good job on this one. Just the fact that your camera didn't pick up all reflections from your objects is very mysterious situation ...pretty chaotic isn't it ?...:)

 

I like your approach to this idea!

Regards!

 

 

Thank you for your visit and comment Tatjana, I'm glad that you liked it.

Tragically, Edward Norton Lorenz left us this year. His discoveries are a cannon for what we don't fully understand and a sign post for the "Outer Limits" of creativity in all fields. Chaos is a "Centrifugal governor" that moves us thru the misunderstood state. ;)

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_governor

"Am I a Trekie" <-- not until Scotty fixes the logic and "beams" us up : ).

Magnifico abstracto,interesante composicion,con una luz,tonos y grano estupendo.

 

Un cordial saludo -Tolo.

John, sorry that I took so long to answer, but life has been rather chaotic this week......."Deep in the human unconscious is a pervasive need for a logical universe that makes sense. But the real universe is always one step beyond logic. "

 

Tolo, muchas gracias por tu visita y comentario, realmente aprecio que siempre te des una vuelta para ver que locura se me ha ocurrido. Saludos,

 

Chaos is a periodic time-asymptotic behavior in a deterministic system which exhibits sensitive dependence on initial conditions.......thus I wonder about the feather in the mid lower section, and all the dust and "things" around the cables.....mmmh, mind boggling indeed!

Thank you, Mr. Brain (?) It seems to be that you're the first one to notice the feather, which was what first caught my attention to this chaotic scene. Cheers!

Hopefully you haven't forgotten this serie sense this was numbered as 1.0. And again i have to admit that i have found something which fashinates my eyes but i can't put it in to English language. I can only say that this giant chaotic spider is very photogenic fellow.

Tero, I'm glad that you found this "spider" to be appealing. This "chaos" thing is becoming an obsession lately, however as many images as I've taken, I still haven't got the time to really work on them to upload them; rest assure that I will, and we may have a deeper discussion of the mater. Once again, thank you for your visit. Cheers!