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I like this very much.

Lovely shot. That's poetry. Why don't you choose a good title?

Mystical and timeless, good composition and precisely the correct amount of grain - wonderful film, isn't it. Congratulations.

Brilliant photo. Nothing wrong so I cant critique ;-) Except maybe I think this is a classic. It will stand.

very nice pic ramaiah ...ur folder has good pics

Excellent mood created here. I have a feeling that there is more cattle than shown here..hidden in the fog. Adds mystery. Who knows what else lies out there.

This is a picture that should be the POW.

 

So plain simple and yet so very magical. A dream composition right out of mythical tales. Like Lord Krishna roaming with his herd.

 

Great shot Ramaiha, keep shooting, keep posting and keep motivating (Saw this and bought B&W roll)

 

Like others, I think this photo works really well. It is a little difficult to judge fairly though as I'm not sure if the actual print contains all this grain or if it's the scan of a result of jpeg compression. I'd really like to see it in the flesh as I bet it would have even more impact (here is where the

web fails us slightly). If you like to play in photoshop of the darkroom perhaps it would be worth playing a little and trying to burn in the dust clouds a little more to add more texture and an even more threatening presence. However, that's just my personal preference - the photo

deffinately works as it stands. - Martin

Very moody and wonderful. COngrats on such a great image!

Just magic! Anna

Wonderful picture. Great composition and exposure. Very nice.

This is not grain; it is a strange pattern due perhaps to JPG compression. Tri X grain is really grain, and well used can be very expressive and beautiful. The photo conveys indeed a lyrical or even mystical feeling in its simplicity. But it bothers me quality of this image, it is a real pity that the scanner or internet or whatever could not give a better definition, this image deserves a cleaner resolution. I guess that on paper is great, but I can not judge it. I don?t know either if is right to make any suggestion but anyhow I would print it on multigrade paper: the clouds with filter 4 and the rest with filter 2, in the same way as Salgado, or better Salgado?s printer does.

This is not grain

It IS grain, and I've seen a lot worse from Tri-X.

I like the atmosphere of the image, and the 'grain' doesn't bother me at all. Still, I'd like to see a bit more context. One of those images that often does better with a couple more to support in a pictorial. Exellent work otherwise.

I suspect that is grain, though it is rough enough so that I asked the question of whether it was grain or an applied effect pretty quickly. I'm guessing that this may well be a heavy crop from a shot with finer grain, or it may have been processed to emphasize grain and contrast - I'd be interested in what the photographer has to say. Still, the grain is pretty consistent and well controlled across the image.

 

This is a wonderful shot, where I think the use of grain to emphasize and complement the rusticity of the scene adds to the shot. I do wonder whether a finer grain might have been preferable, which makes me think more about the choices the photographer made in taking the shot.

I note that Ramaiah has another wonderful shot, called "Herding" that uses similar grain in a similar context, and he has a very bucolic photograph of a cottage at night that uses a finer grain to good effect.

Whether it's grain from a very poor scanner, or an astronomical amount due to compression, it ruins this image in my opinion. Of course the scene itself here has a tremendous amount of mystique and appeal. But it is all thrown out the window with the amount of grain it has been presented here with.

 

"It does appear very grainy and somewhat lacking in detail on my screen and that makes me wonder if it that actually helps the photo...".-- photo.net Elves

 

Are you serious here? How could the articafts presented on this image possibly help ANY photo anywhere?? It's like saying Ive got a great car for you, just never mind all the rust! Or let me re-phrase that, do you think the rust adds to the beauty on my pretty car?? Nuts.

The first time I saw this image I immediately thought it was taken through a piece of gauze or a screen door. There is a great deal of depth in the image already from the fog, which emphasizes the closer objects. The grain adds just one more layer to the many layers in the picture, while taking away some of the subtle details, so on the whole I would say that it hurts more than it helps.

Vincent,

 

If Carl Root shoots that rust, sure.

 

To some extent, your response to this photograph assumes that a good photograph is one that clearly depicts a scene, as opposed to being an image in and of itself that is visualized or abstracted from a scene. But if this is your view, we should clearly all stop shooting Velvia, with all those oversaturated and distorted colors.

 

In my mind, grain is just another of the characteristics of light, lens and film that are tools to producing images - whether we use a grainy film, an oversaturated film, black and white or color. In this case, the grain complements the idea of this image as a bucolic and dreamy old image, one that may be only a half remembered and idealized truth.

 

I do think the choice of a heavy grain can be questioned, but better some grain in this to evoke the feeling than no grain.

 

Best,

 

Sam

Grain is grain, It is no substitute for composition, lighting, and focus. This photo has a LOT of grain, but this week there are many better photographs. I cannot agree with this POV. Regards, -Jim

Kodak TX 135-36 Tri-X Pan Black & White Print Film (ISO-400) -

Key Features:

Fine grain, high sharpness

 

 

 

Sorry Sammy if I touched a nerve there. Must be feeling sensitive today. This Tri-x 400 film claims to be a fine grained film. So therefore is NOT responsible for the *over-abundance* of grain here.

 

"I do think the choice of a heavy grain can be questioned " Sam M-M , nov 22, 2004; 05:44 p.m.

 

Well then, we agree!

Well, this is a truly fine set piece type moment gone wrong in both its capture and presentation. The foreground is murky and busy, both in detail and tonality, and the eye has to nearly pole vault over it. A higher viewpoint would have been essential to do justice to this image. But mostly, all semblance of atmosphere that should have been captured ON FILM is lost in a tragic mess of digital artifacts. And, oh yes, this image otherwise cries out for some creative toning.

Vincent:

Have you ever shot with Tri-X? Nevermind what Kodak says, the new Tri-X is somewhat fine grained but the old version is a different story. And of course BW film is so dependant on the developer used anyway.

 

For all that, though, I think it's a very effective photograph. I will say, however that I'd like to see a grain/artifact-less version: I have a strong suspicion that it could improve this already strong image.

The pattern seems that of reticulation.

 

A very nice image nevertheless.

A great imgae! that's my first impression. I don't know why people are talking too much about grain as I think the grain is just making this photo something mystical.

" The pattern seems that of reticulation."

 

I agree... the thumbnail was beautiful-- when I saw the larger image I said, "I didn't know that they made cloth film."

 

It's an amazing shot.. .I would like to see a cleaner scan or an actual print. I actually tend to like some chunky grain but there is a pattern in the noise that is really off-putting.

 

Otherwise, I love this shot.