lizweisiger 0 Posted January 15, 2008 Very cool image. Great detail, interesting idea. Link to comment
dacamera 0 Posted January 15, 2008 Nice blue tone, a great title for the image.Good stuff! Simon Link to comment
pnital 36 Posted January 16, 2008 Nice moment captured where the train looks colorwise part of the construction... I think that the dark BG is a bit to big and not adding to the whole, what do you think of cropping at least the lower part in half? or do you have a reason to do it that way. Link to comment
laurent-paul 1 Posted January 16, 2008 You just spotted the very point I was really struggling with ! I already cropped a big part of the top, and yes the first reaction was to try to get a crop just over the arches ( the red ones on the wall ). But that was making me cut the blue metallic arch structures in a bad point : I like these metallic structures in the BG because it's the only element giving some perspective. Then the idea was to cut these structures completely not to have any perspective at all. which would made the whole picture even more graphical. But in order to do this I would have to cut out the top of the red arches, and the red wall in the BG then, have absolutely no meaning anymore. Trying to crop higher then ... just above the first horiazontal blue part of the roof was the one I almost posted. But then, I really like the top part, because in the whole balance thsi is actually the only one where the light really is playing with highlights and shadows, and this is the one part in the rhythm, ( appart of course from the people who are acting here like the melody in the middle of the arrangement ), which will completely umbalance the composition. I'm personaly quite attracted to dodecaphonic and punk, after all :-) Link to comment
pnital 36 Posted January 16, 2008 Laurent, what I mean was not to touch the image which is very nice, I talked about the black BG, I will show you what I think, I hope you don't mind . just a small crop... what do you think? Link to comment
laurent-paul 1 Posted January 16, 2008 Ahhh ok i understand now. Well, that's my lazy part and probably the swiss one too : in order not to have to move all the photos all around the portfolio every time a new one is uploaded because of different ratios, I just put a black frame/BG which will create a square :-) But yes for thsi one I should probably do your suggestion, and have white to finish the square. thanks laurent Link to comment
pnital 36 Posted January 17, 2008 Laurent, don't forget that this and others black BG( because of your swiss lazyness...;-)) are becoming PART of your photo! nobody( including me) know the reason of your doing it, so get "rid" of that habit...LOL Link to comment
laurent-paul 1 Posted January 17, 2008 I'll start to not like you that much anymore with you beeing so right all the time :-) Link to comment
japi 1 Posted January 17, 2008 I like it very much, Laurent-Paul, excellent sharpness and detail. The metalic colour goes really well with the "industrial" composition. Best regards Link to comment
laurent-paul 1 Posted January 18, 2008 Joao thank you very much for your feedback Pnina P.S. Lazyness has everything to do with my personality ( but don't tell that to my parents ) , not the fact I'm swiss : The swiss part was all about things having to be clean and square :-) Link to comment
Guest Guest Posted January 18, 2008 This is a compelling image. I like the cool tone and love the geometry. I think you did find a wonderful crop for the image and agree with Pnina that the background feels a little awkward. Hint: if you work in photoshop, just make your background canvas color the same shade of light gray that PN's background is and, voila, your photo will not have to be resized and will appear not to have any background. By the way, I've read with great enthusiasm your recent forum posts, and you are anything but lazy, certainly not in your thinking and ability to articulate your thoughts well. You have a lot of good things to say and make important contributions. Thanks. Link to comment
pnital 36 Posted January 18, 2008 I have to take a sample of your genes first to see who donated your laziness...LOL but I have read you in the forum and enjoyed your enthusiasm and participation!... BTW, Fred's hint is right! Link to comment
laurent-paul 1 Posted January 19, 2008 Just to show you how swiss and lazy I really am : of course, using PN background was the first idea. But then I realised that on the porfolio and in the folders, the background is a 66% white grey. In the display window of the photo, it is a 90% white grey. hm : using the folders BG looks right for the thumnbnails, but not really that good on display. the opposite, isn't really much better. My swiss side dind't find that all too clean. Lazy side kicking in : "Well, just use the default "black" on resizing canevas then !" and of course, I listened to this voice ... But I'll probably have a few minutes tomorrow to do something about it. Link to comment
laurent-paul 1 Posted January 19, 2008 not able to resist intense lobyying, but still not able to resist offering a bit of unexpected, here is now another version. But thinking I'll have to do that with all the others, makes me very tired already. Link to comment
laurent-paul 1 Posted January 28, 2008 Thank you very much for conforting and supporting my lazy side. But before of the swiss one, which isn't that happy now :-) Link to comment
antoniobassiphotography 0 Posted January 31, 2008 Wow, you two guys put up a forum discussion on such details...! No matter what you crop or don't crop the visual power of the image is always strong and clear. I like the arches in the background, they are the key in my opinion. Link to comment
laurent-paul 1 Posted February 1, 2008 Antonio : Actually, the whole discussion wasn't really about the crop as I first misunderstood, but about the framing around the photo. And Pnina is absolutely right: It will always influence what we see, and the way we perceive the photo if only by rebalancing colors or as in here enhancing or killing the contrast of a photo. Also it is very interesting that you, who, as I saw in your biography,is a violonist, mentionned the arches here : The whole photo, here for me actually reads like a music score, having the bass at the bottom, and the whole basic ryhtmical patterns building up from bottom to top, having the lows keys at the bottom, the high ones at the top, and having the people here representing the melody. And for some reasons, in my mind, the arches were always reprsenting the strings section and the ceiling the wind section :-) Pnina : Dicovering my answer to your latest post, I realise my english is even more incomprehensible than usual. I wanted to say : "But *BEWARE* of the swiss one, which isn't that happy now :-)" Link to comment
pnital 36 Posted February 4, 2008 Never mind, you are not "aware" lately ;-)), so it is the result... too much work, postings, and photos for the lazy? .... LOL Link to comment
laurent-paul 1 Posted February 5, 2008 I think I've been born unaware anyway :-)) And yes you may be right : I should probably upload and post a bit more ... Link to comment
pnital 36 Posted February 5, 2008 Fast!! Laurent , the blue train is leaving... ...... Link to comment
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